ReadTheGreatControversyEGW Posted August 10 #1 Share Posted August 10 Back in the late 1800s to early 1900s, Ellen White related the following prophecies (there are many others). What two occurrences in our world comes to mind when you read the following? ... Number 1: "Satan is working in the atmosphere; he is poisoning the atmosphere, and here we are dependent upon God for our lives—our present and eternal lives..." [[—Selected Messages 2:52 (1890). LDE 26.4]] "God has not restrained the powers of darkness from carrying forward their deadly work of vitiating the air, one of the sources of life and nutrition, with a deadly miasma. Not only is vegetable life affected but man suffers from pestilence.... These things are the result of drops from the vials of God's wrath being sprinkled on the earth, and are but faint representations of what will be in the near future." [[—Selected Messages 3:391 (1891). LDE 27.1]] Number 2: Ellen White's late 1901 New York City vision predicted (Testimonies Volume 9, page 11+): • Skyscrapers would be built. • These buildings would be considered fireproof. • An alarm of fire would be followed by people on the ground saying that the "lofty" buildings were "perfectly safe." • They would burn as pitch. • The fire engines wouldn't be able to stop the inferno. • The firemen wouldn't be able to operate their fire engines. • The buildings would fall. • The fearfulness of it all would be unimaginable. **Feel free to share your thoughts! I will post my conclusions at some point later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Wearer of Hats Posted August 10 #2 Share Posted August 10 Anyway ... Matthew 7:15, Deuteronomy 18:20 Ezekiel 13:4 and 13:6. 😃 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+and-then Posted August 11 #3 Share Posted August 11 1 hour ago, Sir Wearer of Hats said: Anyway ... Matthew 7:15, Deuteronomy 18:20 Ezekiel 13:4 and 13:6. 😃 Modern humanity takes your point much farther. They accept NO prophet as being true or God-inspired. We have quite a few on this site who will never accept the writings of the Hebrew prophets as accurate, no matter how perfectly their predictions unfold in modern age. Fortunately, millions of humans will not be so prideful or so well "educated". They will see, hear, and believe. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antigonos Posted August 11 #4 Share Posted August 11 More preaching from the goon squad. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+DieChecker Posted August 11 #5 Share Posted August 11 So... Dont move to New York... Gotcha. Will do. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ell Posted August 11 #6 Share Posted August 11 (edited) 2 hours ago, ReadTheGreatControversyEGW said: Number 1: Ellen White objected against a very real, but often invisible danger, which she could not give a name to. But I can: mold. That is why she insisted that the mold afflicted churches she visited open all doors and all windows to get in fresh air. Quote Number 2: Ellen White's late 1901 New York City vision predicted (Testimonies Volume 9, page 11+): Maybe she visited a World's Fair? Or maybe she read one of the early science fiction stories? And of course there was the: Quote Great Chicago Fire, conflagration that began on October 8, 1871, and burned until early October 10. Edited August 11 by Ell 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReadTheGreatControversyEGW Posted August 11 Author #7 Share Posted August 11 2 hours ago, and-then said: We have quite a few on this site who will never accept the writings of the Hebrew prophets as accurate, no matter how perfectly their predictions unfold in modern age One reason might be that to do so would involve serious changes they don't wanna make. Hey, true Bible Christianity is not for the weak. Death to self is required. "I die daily" You have to "count the cost." "In the same way, those of you who do not give up everything you have cannot be my disciples." "And again I say unto you, It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God." Here, you can be rich, with not a dime to your name. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ell Posted August 11 #8 Share Posted August 11 1 hour ago, ReadTheGreatControversyEGW said: It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God. Matthew 19:24 One of the Sumerian words for camel is amsikurak. What if the original text used the very similar word 'eškiri = nose rope, tether' instead and the translator, associating the nose rope with a camel, mistakenly thought that it meant camel, confusing the meaning of both words? If so, the correct translation would be: It is easier for a thread to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God. (Anyone who has tried to thread a needle knows how difficult that is.) 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cormac mac airt Posted August 11 #9 Share Posted August 11 1 hour ago, ReadTheGreatControversyEGW said: One reason might be that to do so would involve serious changes they don't wanna make. Hey, true Bible Christianity is not for the weak. Death to self is required. "I die daily" You have to "count the cost." "In the same way, those of you who do not give up everything you have cannot be my disciples." "And again I say unto you, It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God." Here, you can be rich, with not a dime to your name. One reason is likely that many are tired of reading bull****e masquerading as Christianity. cormac 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Hammerclaw Posted August 11 #10 Share Posted August 11 8 hours ago, and-then said: Modern humanity takes your point much farther. They accept NO prophet as being true or God-inspired. We have quite a few on this site who will never accept the writings of the Hebrew prophets as accurate, no matter how perfectly their predictions unfold in modern age. Fortunately, millions of humans will not be so prideful or so well "educated". They will see, hear, and believe. Prophecies are like tea leaves. It's not what they say, it's what one reads into them. 3 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmccr8 Posted August 11 #11 Share Posted August 11 27 minutes ago, Hammerclaw said: Prophecies are like tea leaves. It's not what they say, it's what one reads into them. HI Hammer Grew up drinking coffee the cowboy way where you strained the grounds through your teeth and spitting them out. I don't drink water unless it's been brewed or perked. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piney Posted August 11 #12 Share Posted August 11 Howabout some of her failed prophecies... England will attack the US during the Civil War.-Testimonies Vol. 1, pg. 259 Jesus would return before slavery was abolished.-Early writings pp 35 Adventists alive in 1856 would see Jesus's return. -Testimonies For the Church vol.1, pp 131-132 Enoch is on Jupiter with Tall Pure People - Early Writings pp 39-40 Jesus will return in a few months (1850) - Early Writings pg. 58 More to come folks... 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmccr8 Posted August 11 #13 Share Posted August 11 4 minutes ago, Piney said: Howabout some of her failed prophecies... England will attack the US during the Civil War.-Testimonies Vol. 1, pg. 259 Jesus would return before slavery was abolished.-Early writings pp 35 Adventists alive in 1856 would see Jesus's return. -Testimonies For the Church vol.1, pp 131-132 Enoch is on Jupiter with Tall Pure People - Early Writings pp 39-40 Jesus will return in a few months (1850) - Early Writings pg. 58 More to come folks... HI Piney I prophecy that tomorrow morning I will wake up with a woody just like I did this morning. Lol, believe they will 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piney Posted August 11 #14 Share Posted August 11 15 minutes ago, jmccr8 said: HI Piney I prophecy that tomorrow morning I will wake up with a woody just like I did this morning. Lol, believe they will And Ellen says you'll go to Hell for touching it. 🤪 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmccr8 Posted August 11 #15 Share Posted August 11 11 minutes ago, Piney said: And Ellen says you'll go to Hell for touching it. 🤪 HI Piney With respect to forum rules will not discuss who was touching who and will not comment further. Lol 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piney Posted August 11 #16 Share Posted August 11 11 minutes ago, jmccr8 said: HI Piney With respect to forum rules will not discuss who was touching who and will not comment further. Lol 😬 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piney Posted August 11 #17 Share Posted August 11 10 hours ago, and-then said: Modern humanity takes your point much farther. They accept NO prophet as being true or God-inspired. We have quite a few on this site who will never accept the writings of the Hebrew prophets as accurate, no matter how perfectly their predictions unfold in modern age. Fortunately, millions of humans will not be so prideful or so well "educated". They will see, hear, and believe. I can't wait....😍 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmccr8 Posted August 11 #18 Share Posted August 11 5 minutes ago, Piney said: 😬 😄 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmccr8 Posted August 11 #19 Share Posted August 11 3 minutes ago, Piney said: I can't wait....😍 HI Piney Forward looking people don't live in dark worlds and see potential to change themselves as well as others 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piney Posted August 11 #20 Share Posted August 11 31 minutes ago, jmccr8 said: HI Piney Forward looking people don't live in dark worlds and see potential to change themselves as well as others And better the World rather than be a lazy, dumb **** waiting for a imaginary character to do it. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Hammerclaw Posted August 11 #21 Share Posted August 11 10 hours ago, jmccr8 said: HI Hammer Grew up drinking coffee the cowboy way where you strained the grounds through your teeth and spitting them out. I don't drink water unless it's been brewed or perked. I drink 90% tea and the rest coffee and juice, with an occasional glass of crunchy tap water. Gotta have those minerals. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piney Posted August 11 #22 Share Posted August 11 1 minute ago, Hammerclaw said: I drink 90% tea and the rest coffee and juice, with an occasional glass of crunchy tap water. Gotta have those minerals. Folgers Crystals. I became addicted to the MRE and C Rats Folgers packs as a Army brat and cadet and never changed. With a occasional cup of my wife's tea in her mug. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Wearer of Hats Posted August 11 #23 Share Posted August 11 16 hours ago, ReadTheGreatControversyEGW said: Hey, true Bible Christianity is not for the weak Is that why you're a SDA then? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReadTheGreatControversyEGW Posted August 12 Author #24 Share Posted August 12 On 8/10/2024 at 11:47 PM, Ell said: On 8/10/2024 at 10:30 PM, ReadTheGreatControversyEGW said: It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God. Matthew 19:24 One of the Sumerian words for camel is amsikurak. What if the original text used the very similar word 'eškiri = nose rope, tether' instead and the translator, associating the nose rope with a camel, mistakenly thought that it meant camel, confusing the meaning of both words? If so, the correct translation would be: It is easier for a thread to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God. (Anyone who has tried to thread a needle knows how difficult that is.) Perhaps yes.. this is also something else to consider (picture below). The way to life is called a narrow path. Few find it. Can't enter in (the spiritual Kingdom of God) with all that stuff. Whatever the treasures may be... Women. Money. Video games, social status....etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReadTheGreatControversyEGW Posted August 12 Author #25 Share Posted August 12 19 hours ago, Sir Wearer of Hats said: On 8/10/2024 at 10:30 PM, ReadTheGreatControversyEGW said: Hey, true Bible Christianity is not for the weak Is that why you're a SDA then? No. There are many true Christians in any denomination... should be the same teachings of dying to self, or selflessness. The very opposite of fallen human nature. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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