ReadTheGreatControversyEGW Posted August 21 Author #51 Share Posted August 21 Behold another example of predictive programming! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grim Reaper 6 Posted August 21 #52 Share Posted August 21 14 minutes ago, ReadTheGreatControversyEGW said: @eight bits You might find this enlightening also.. a friend of a Rockefeller exposes that they had this plan all along. He stated how Rockefeller was very nice to him but the man cared not for the lives of other people. He told him about what was going to happen at the World Trade centers long before it ever did and the resulting war that was planned. Governments are great...but it's sad to see when they're infiltrated by mad people. Your source is a joke across the media spectrum, I can’t believe you would even use it! Overall, InfoWars/Alex Jones is a crackpot, tin foil hat-level conspiracy website that strongly promotes pseudoscience. The amount of fake news, debunked conspiracy claims, and extreme right-wing bias renders InfoWars a non-credible source.. Bias Rating: EXTREME RIGHT Factual Reporting: VERY LOW Country: USA Press Freedom Rank: MOSTLY FREE Media Type: TV Station Traffic/Popularity: High Traffic MBFC Credibility Rating: LOW CREDIBILITY https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/infowars-alex-jones/ 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piney Posted August 21 #53 Share Posted August 21 12 minutes ago, Grim Reaper 6 said: Your source is a joke across the media spectrum, I can’t believe you would even use it! Overall, InfoWars/Alex Jones is a crackpot, tin foil hat-level conspiracy website that strongly promotes pseudoscience. The amount of fake news, debunked conspiracy claims, and extreme right-wing bias renders InfoWars a non-credible source.. Bias Rating: EXTREME RIGHT Factual Reporting: VERY LOW Country: USA Press Freedom Rank: MOSTLY FREE Media Type: TV Station Traffic/Popularity: High Traffic MBFC Credibility Rating: LOW CREDIBILITY https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/infowars-alex-jones/ I already debunked this video Aaron Russo in another thread she started and abandoned. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReadTheGreatControversyEGW Posted August 21 Author #54 Share Posted August 21 9 minutes ago, Grim Reaper 6 said: 28 minutes ago, ReadTheGreatControversyEGW said: @eight bits You might find this enlightening also.. a friend of a Rockefeller exposes that they had this plan all along. He stated how Rockefeller was very nice to him but the man cared not for the lives of other people. He told him about what was going to happen at the World Trade centers long before it ever did and the resulting war that was planned. Governments are great...but it's sad to see when they're infiltrated by mad people. Your source is a joke across the media spectrum, I can’t believe you would even use it! Overall, InfoWars/Alex Jones is a crackpot, tin foil hat-level conspiracy website that strongly promotes pseudoscience. The amount of fake news, debunked conspiracy claims, and extreme right-wing bias renders InfoWars a non-credible source.. Bias Rating: EXTREME RIGHT Factual Reporting: VERY LOW Country: USA Press Freedom Rank: MOSTLY FREE Media Type: TV Station Traffic/Popularity: High Traffic MBFC Credibility Rating: LOW CREDIBILITY https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/infowars-alex-jones/ I don't care about Alex Jones dramas. Pretty sure he's said some things that are true.. I'm paying attention to the testimony of Mr Aaron Russo. Listening to him and watching his body language, he's sincere. What would he gain by having the Rockefeller satanists running the rich industries of America coming after him? And his story literally lines up with a ton of stuff other people (like whistle-blowers) are saying.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piney Posted August 21 #55 Share Posted August 21 34 minutes ago, ReadTheGreatControversyEGW said: @eight bits You might find this enlightening also.. a friend of a Rockefeller exposes that they had this plan all along. He stated how Rockefeller was very nice to him but the man cared not for the lives of other people. He told him about what was going to happen at the World Trade centers long before it ever did and the resulting war that was planned. Governments are great...but it's sad to see when they're infiltrated by mad people. Abusing this tripe again? Aaron Russo, serial liar, like you flip flopping failed politician and Hollywood screwball who made his own commemorative coins and lied about famous people's quotes in his film 'America: Freedom to Fascism'. 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piney Posted August 21 #56 Share Posted August 21 5 minutes ago, ReadTheGreatControversyEGW said: I don't care about Alex Jones dramas. Pretty sure he's said some things that are true.. I'm paying attention to the testimony of Mr Aaron Russo. Listening to him and watching his body language, he's sincere. What would he gain by having the Rockefeller satanists running the rich industries of America coming after him? And his story literally lines up with a ton of stuff other people (like whistle-blowers) are saying.. Yeah...the Rockefellers are worth 8.4 billion. The Waltons who own Walmart are worth over 293 Billion.... There's some real international power there... 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grim Reaper 6 Posted August 21 #57 Share Posted August 21 Just now, ReadTheGreatControversyEGW said: I don't care about Alex Jones dramas. Pretty sure he's said some things that are true.. I'm paying attention to the testimony of Mr Aaron Russo. Listening to him and watching his body language, he's sincere. What would he gain by having the Rockefeller satanists running the rich industries of America coming after him? And his story literally lines up with a ton of stuff other people (like whistle-blowers) are saying.. Anything posted on the Infowars site is a Conspiracy Theory, along with Mr Aaron Russo who is also a far leftwing conspiracy theorist. His story lines up with other conspiracy theories nothing more. That is why he had to turn to Infowars to get his factious story released online, pretty sad. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReadTheGreatControversyEGW Posted August 21 Author #58 Share Posted August 21 On 8/13/2024 at 3:37 PM, Sir Wearer of Hats said: So you don’t hold the the prophesy of someone as scripture, in full and clear contravention of Biblical instruction? You don’t have your own specially written version of the Bible with its own special SDA annotations? And yeah, I’m Catholic. Do you know, BTW, who the biggest critics of Catholicism are? Catholics. Are you talking to me? You didn't pin me in this. Just seeing it now.. Lots of Adventists use the King James Bible, like me. I love it! Had it from Babydom, learning to read.. Some use the ESV and others. We do not have any recognized version of our own, like you do. Catholics have their own Bible version, which specifically changed some things with the 10 commandments. There are probably other changes but I never paid attention. Also... "So you don’t hold the the prophesy of someone as scripture, in full and clear contravention of Biblical instruction?" Ellen White's writings are not scripture. Where did you get that from? Obviously it's not and can never be. No adding to the Bible. Now, when prophets are called into action by God, you either receive their words as true and indeed a message from God, or you don't. That's all there is to Ellen White. She calls herself a "messenger." I believe what she is saying is indeed a message from God. But that's me...and a bunch of other people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReadTheGreatControversyEGW Posted August 21 Author #59 Share Posted August 21 7 minutes ago, Grim Reaper 6 said: 18 minutes ago, ReadTheGreatControversyEGW said: I don't care about Alex Jones dramas. Pretty sure he's said some things that are true.. I'm paying attention to the testimony of Mr Aaron Russo. Listening to him and watching his body language, he's sincere. What would he gain by having the Rockefeller satanists running the rich industries of America coming after him? And his story literally lines up with a ton of stuff other people (like whistle-blowers) are saying.. Expand Anything posted on the Infowars site is a Conspiracy Theory, along with Mr Aaron Russo who is also a far leftwing conspiracy theorist. His story lines up with other conspiracy theories nothing more. That is why he had to turn to Infowars to get his factious story released online, pretty sad. I wonder if the day will ever come when we'll see which of us is actually right about what Mr Russo said in that video? Idk 🤔 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grim Reaper 6 Posted August 21 #60 Share Posted August 21 2 minutes ago, ReadTheGreatControversyEGW said: I wonder if the day will ever come when we'll see which of us is actually right about what Mr Russo said in that video? Idk 🤔 The day has come, it’s here, right now all you have to do is open your mind and realize you’re perpetuating a conspiracy theory which you certainly are! 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piney Posted August 21 #61 Share Posted August 21 (edited) 40 minutes ago, ReadTheGreatControversyEGW said: Are you talking to me? You didn't pin me in this. Just seeing it now.. Lots of Adventists use the King James Bible, like me. I love it! Had it from Babydom, learning to read.. Some use the ESV and others. We do not have any recognized version of our own, like you do. Catholics have their own Bible version, which specifically changed some things with the 10 commandments. There are probably other changes but I never paid attention. Also... "So you don’t hold the the prophesy of someone as scripture, in full and clear contravention of Biblical instruction?" Ellen White's writings are not scripture. Where did you get that from? Obviously it's not and can never be. No adding to the Bible. Now, when prophets are called into action by God, you either receive their words as true and indeed a message from God, or you don't. That's all there is to Ellen White. She calls herself a "messenger." I believe what she is saying is indeed a message from God. But that's me...and a bunch of other people. The KJ is a bad translation of a bad translation, the Vulgate which was the Catholic Bible. Edited August 21 by Piney Meh... 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piney Posted August 21 #62 Share Posted August 21 17 minutes ago, ReadTheGreatControversyEGW said: I wonder if the day will ever come when we'll see which of us is actually right about what Mr Russo said in that video? Idk 🤔 Hold your breath and see. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grim Reaper 6 Posted August 21 #63 Share Posted August 21 1 hour ago, Piney said: Hold your breath and see. Dam Piney, that sounds like assisted Suicide!🤣 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Wearer of Hats Posted August 22 #64 Share Posted August 22 7 hours ago, ReadTheGreatControversyEGW said: Are you talking to me? You didn't pin me in this. Just seeing it now.. Lots of Adventists use the King James Bible, like me. I love it! Had it from Babydom, learning to read.. Some use the ESV and others. We do not have any recognized version of our own, like you do. Catholics have their own Bible version, which specifically changed some things with the 10 commandments. There are probably other changes but I never paid attention. Also... "So you don’t hold the the prophesy of someone as scripture, in full and clear contravention of Biblical instruction?" Ellen White's writings are not scripture. Where did you get that from? Obviously it's not and can never be. No adding to the Bible. Now, when prophets are called into action by God, you either receive their words as true and indeed a message from God, or you don't. That's all there is to Ellen White. She calls herself a "messenger." I believe what she is saying is indeed a message from God. But that's me...and a bunch of other people. No, you lot have different Bibles. We were there first, QED you're all splittists, schismatics, heretics and ... some other words that stumble to mind. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eight bits Posted August 22 #65 Share Posted August 22 9 hours ago, ReadTheGreatControversyEGW said: Lots of Adventists use the King James Bible, like me. I love it! Had it from Babydom, learning to read.. Some use the ESV and others. We do not have any recognized version of our own, like you do. Catholics have their own Bible version, which specifically changed some things with the 10 commandments. There are probably other changes but I never paid attention. It is the RCC canon which is distinctive, not the version. A "Catholic" Bible will include some late Jewish material as part of its "Old Testament," as opposed to the Anglican practice of (optionally) placing the same material in a separate section located between the "Old" and New Testaments. A typical "Protestant Bible" simply omits the late Jewish material, or identifies itself as "... and the Apocrypha." "Catholic" or "Protestant," the serious modern bibles-in-translation typically include scholars of different confessions on an editorial board or committee which hashes out the published text. The KJV which you personally favor was also a committee effort; self-consciously seeking a translation acceptable to both Protestants and Catholics... if you are worried about Catholic influence on the translation you use, then that ship has sailed. Worry instead about the impoverished collection of source manuscripts that the KJV rests upon when compared with what is available today. As to "the" 10 Commandments, different denominations number them differently and include more or fewer words from the various passages in question. I suspect you as SDA might be sensitive to translating the pertinent Hebrew word in the 3rd or 4th commandment as "sabbath" versus "the Lord's day.". The Eastern Orthodox have their own conventions. There are also some variations among Jews in how they have compiled a group of ten at different times and in different sources of Jewish tradition. For all of that, there isn't much substantive difference among the different compilations. Regardless of confession, there are two distinct sources (Exodus 20 and Deuteronomy 5), so some variation seems inevitable to arrive at one single numbered list of ten. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReadTheGreatControversyEGW Posted August 22 Author #66 Share Posted August 22 10 hours ago, Sir Wearer of Hats said: heretics Spoken like a true Catholic man! How many "heretics" did your pope kill off back in dem days? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReadTheGreatControversyEGW Posted August 22 Author #67 Share Posted August 22 10 hours ago, Sir Wearer of Hats said: No, you lot have different Bibles. Name one. One translation that the Adventist church created.. please and thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piney Posted August 22 #68 Share Posted August 22 2 minutes ago, ReadTheGreatControversyEGW said: Name one. One translation that the Adventist church created.. please and thanks You had two false prophets to misinterpret for you instead. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Wearer of Hats Posted August 22 #69 Share Posted August 22 4 hours ago, ReadTheGreatControversyEGW said: Spoken like a true Catholic man! How many "heretics" did your pope kill off back in dem days? My pope? My personal pope? I’ e only had three, the little turtle fella, the German fella and the Argentine. They’ve killed … not counting the first one’s actions as a partisan … none to my knowledge. Now the Borgias? Anyone mad enough to call themselves “Innocent”? They were arseholes. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Wearer of Hats Posted August 22 #70 Share Posted August 22 4 hours ago, ReadTheGreatControversyEGW said: Name one. One translation that the Adventist church created.. please and thanks NASB? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Wearer of Hats Posted August 22 #71 Share Posted August 22 Ohh and FTR …. We don’t use the KJV. King James being a Protestant and all, and you know … the persecution of Catholics and extermination of Catholic doctrine during his/his family’s reign sort of left a sour taste in our mouths. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piney Posted August 22 #72 Share Posted August 22 11 minutes ago, Sir Wearer of Hats said: NASB? They don't use that. Just certain Baptist and Mennonite sects. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piney Posted August 22 #73 Share Posted August 22 14 minutes ago, Sir Wearer of Hats said: My pope? My personal pope? I’ e only had three, the little turtle fella, the German fella and the Argentine. They’ve killed … not counting the first one’s actions as a partisan … none to my knowledge. Now the Borgias? Anyone mad enough to call themselves “Innocent”? They were arseholes. The Argentine scientist wouldn't harm a fly. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Wearer of Hats Posted August 22 #74 Share Posted August 22 Just now, Piney said: They don't use that. Just certain Baptist and Mennonite sects. Thanks. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Wearer of Hats Posted August 22 #75 Share Posted August 22 4 hours ago, ReadTheGreatControversyEGW said: Spoken like a true Catholic man! How many "heretics" did your pope kill off back in dem days? Hey now, if the hood fits … you name it, the Catholic authority has done it, invasion, murder, murder-made-to-look-like-suicide, orgies, selling of religious favours, carefully reinterpreted doctrine in order to benefit bishops/cardinals/popes, the Inquistions … we’ve done a lot of Bad Stuff. Never had much truck with Prophets though. God told us not to, and we sort of decided that that there’s a line we won’t cross. So yeah - following a prophet does have the air of heresy. And if Catholics can smell it over our own hypocrisy… it has to be powerful. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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