pellinore Posted August 12 #1 Share Posted August 12 (edited) I wonder what the motivation was. An 11-year-old girl and a 34-year-old woman have been stabbed in London's Leicester Square. They were treated at the scene before being taken to a hospital's major trauma centre following the attack this morning. The Metropolitan Police said a man has been arrested and is in custody. "We don't believe there are any outstanding suspects," the force said in a post on X. Girl, 11, and woman, 34, stabbed in London's Leicester Square | UK News | Sky News Edited August 12 by pellinore 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stiff Posted August 12 #2 Share Posted August 12 At a guess, they could be mother and daughter so may well be family related. I'm sure we'll find out soon enough. Or I may be way off the mark. No point in speculating till we know more. Either way, I wish them both a speedy recovery. Hopefully he'll be in court, sentenced and imprisoned within days now that the judicial system is speedy, speedy. A lengthy sentence would be nice too. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Still Waters Posted August 12 #3 Share Posted August 12 Quote A shop worker who helped stop the stabbing told the BBC he had heard "a scream", so he "jumped on the attacker... and kicked the knife away from him". Abdullah, 29, who works at TWG tea in Leicester Square, said he intervened to stop the attacker who had blood on his face and chest. "I heard a scream and I just went outside and saw one guy had a knife," he explained. "The moment I saw it I just jumped on that guy and grabbed his hand... and put him down on the floor and kicked the knife away from him." He said a couple of other men also came over to help and held the man down for "four to five" minutes, adding he decided to take action because "I had no time, I just didn't think". https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/ckg5xx0gly8o 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pellinore Posted August 12 Author #4 Share Posted August 12 A witness said the suspect in the attack in Leicester Square was a young, white, skinny male wearing a black T-shirt and jeans. Let's hope we don't have more riots over this stabbing- though it's probably okay as the suspect is white. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diddyman68 Posted August 12 #5 Share Posted August 12 4 hours ago, pellinore said: A witness said the suspect in the attack in Leicester Square was a young, white, skinny male wearing a black T-shirt and jeans. Let's hope we don't have more riots over this stabbing- though it's probably okay as the suspect is white. Just another example of the lawlessness in this country,people are running wild stabbing people and the cops main priority is hunting down internet trolls who disagree with the propaganda. Good luck reporting a burglary or assault,the cops are too busy arresting people for thought crimes. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pellinore Posted August 12 Author #6 Share Posted August 12 1 minute ago, diddyman68 said: Good luck reporting a burglary or assault,the cops are too busy arresting people for thought crimes. Name one person who has been arrested for thought crime in the UK since Labour came to power. Just one would do. You can't do it, can you? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diddyman68 Posted August 12 #7 Share Posted August 12 9 minutes ago, pellinore said: Name one person who has been arrested for thought crime in the UK since Labour came to power. Just one would do. You can't do it, can you? It depends on how you describe thought crime,if its literal thought ,then the woman who was silently praying outside an abortion clinic and got arrested. I was getting at how starlin has clamped down on people expressing their opinions online,anyone who gets caught up in disruption and stands back and films it ..arrested. If he is so power crazed as to have the richest man on earth arrested for expressing his opinion,what chance does the average pleb have. Remember those days of free speech ?AHH a distant memory now. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grim Reaper 6 Posted August 12 #8 Share Posted August 12 47 minutes ago, diddyman68 said: Just another example of the lawlessness in this country,people are running wild stabbing people and the cops main priority is hunting down internet trolls who disagree with the propaganda. Good luck reporting a burglary or assault,the cops are too busy arresting people for thought crimes. Well, thankfully they don’t allow personally owned firearms in the UK, because with all the recent attacks it certainly could be much worse. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pellinore Posted August 12 Author #9 Share Posted August 12 9 minutes ago, diddyman68 said: It depends on how you describe thought crime,if its literal thought ,then the woman who was silently praying outside an abortion clinic and got arrested. I was getting at how starlin has clamped down on people expressing their opinions online,anyone who gets caught up in disruption and stands back and films it ..arrested. If he is so power crazed as to have the richest man on earth arrested for expressing his opinion,what chance does the average pleb have. Remember those days of free speech ?AHH a distant memory now. Thought so. Just like Brexit, everyone hates EU laws but can't mention a single one they hate. You know people are arrested for thought crime but can't mention one person who has been arrested for thought crime, or what it was. That's because it is all fantasy. (The woman arrested outside an abortion clinic was in a proscribed area, which you should know, and you should know the facts behind the situation). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pellinore Posted August 12 Author #10 Share Posted August 12 1 minute ago, Grim Reaper 6 said: Well, thankfully they don’t allow personally owned firearms in the UK, because with all the recent attacks it certainly could be much worse. A lot worse, that's for sure. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diddyman68 Posted August 12 #11 Share Posted August 12 42 minutes ago, Grim Reaper 6 said: Well, thankfully they don’t allow personally owned firearms in the UK, because with all the recent attacks it certainly could be much worse. It's not just about firearms though, If I'm out and about with my girlfriend and a psycho suddenly attacks her,if I smack him and he goes down and cracks his head and dies.i go to jail for manslaughter. If I'm awakened by a burglar And i grab a knife to defend myself ,if the burglar attacks me and I stab him a few times ,I get sent down for using excessive force. I remember you telling of an incident in a restaurant,and I respect what you did.but if you did that in the UK. Wether it was with a firearm,knife or fists..you would be serving a life sentence. At least in the us you can legally defend yourself..not here. 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Setton Posted August 12 #12 Share Posted August 12 10 minutes ago, diddyman68 said: It's not just about firearms though, If I'm out and about with my girlfriend and a psycho suddenly attacks her,if I smack him and he goes down and cracks his head and dies.i go to jail for manslaughter. Not true, that would be self-defence. Quote If I'm awakened by a burglar And i grab a knife to defend myself ,if the burglar attacks me and I stab him a few times ,I get sent down for using excessive force. True, if he isn't posing a deadly threat and you respond with deadly force. Quote I remember you telling of an incident in a restaurant,and I respect what you did.but if you did that in the UK. Wether it was with a firearm,knife or fists..you would be serving a life sentence. At least in the us you can legally defend yourself..not here. Utter rubbish. You're perfectly entitled to defend yourself in the UK. What you're not entitled to do, unlike some parts of the US, is start a fight with someone, get pushed over then shoot the other guy dead. For example. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grim Reaper 6 Posted August 12 #13 Share Posted August 12 11 minutes ago, diddyman68 said: It's not just about firearms though, If I'm out and about with my girlfriend and a psycho suddenly attacks her,if I smack him and he goes down and cracks his head and dies.i go to jail for manslaughter. If I'm awakened by a burglar And i grab a knife to defend myself ,if the burglar attacks me and I stab him a few times ,I get sent down for using excessive force. I remember you telling of an incident in a restaurant,and I respect what you did.but if you did that in the UK. Wether it was with a firearm,knife or fists..you would be serving a life sentence. At least in the us you can legally defend yourself..not here. In the United States we have a Stand your Ground law if you are attacked by someone. It allows you to fight back if you choose too, it’s very sad you’re not allowed to protect yourself or your loved ones in the UK. I think the laws need to change because it gives the criminals the advantage over law biding citizens which in my opinion is ridiculous. 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Setton Posted August 12 #14 Share Posted August 12 2 minutes ago, Grim Reaper 6 said: In the United States we have a Stand your Ground law if you are attacked by someone. It allows you to fight back if you choose too, it’s very sad you’re not allowed to protect yourself or your loved ones in the UK. I think the laws need to change because it gives the criminals the advantage over law biding citizens which in my opinion is ridiculous. Probably cos it's not true. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grim Reaper 6 Posted August 12 #15 Share Posted August 12 4 minutes ago, Setton said: Not true, that would be self-defence. True, if he isn't posing a deadly threat and you respond with deadly force. Utter rubbish. You're perfectly entitled to defend yourself in the UK. What you're not entitled to do, unlike some parts of the US, is start a fight with someone, get pushed over then shoot the other guy dead. For example. No where in the US are you covered by the existing laws if you created the situation, that’s simply BS and hyperbole. However, if someone poses a threat to the lives of others and you shoot them the law is on your side. I have proven this point back in the 1990s and I was not prosecuted and my handgun was returned after the prosecutor decide my actions were justified! 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grim Reaper 6 Posted August 12 #16 Share Posted August 12 3 minutes ago, Setton said: Probably cos it's not true. I have no idea what the laws are in the UK, I can only go off what I am told in discussions here on the forum. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diddyman68 Posted August 12 #17 Share Posted August 12 1 hour ago, Grim Reaper 6 said: Well, thankfully they don’t allow personally owned firearms in the UK, because with all the recent attacks it certainly could be much worse. There are plenty guns around in the criminal fraternity,even though guns are illegal,London is on a Parr with new Yorks murder rate. Mostly knife crime,by black gangs,the police used to stop and search them but the gangbangers complained it was racist so now they let them roam the streets with machetes and swords. And average people who protest about the police not protecting their kids are branded as far right extremists,not to mention the Muslim grooming gangs preying on their kids while the authorities cover up the crimes for the sake of diversity. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grim Reaper 6 Posted August 12 #18 Share Posted August 12 20 minutes ago, diddyman68 said: There are plenty guns around in the criminal fraternity,even though guns are illegal,London is on a Parr with new Yorks murder rate. Mostly knife crime,by black gangs,the police used to stop and search them but the gangbangers complained it was racist so now they let them roam the streets with machetes and swords. And average people who protest about the police not protecting their kids are branded as far right extremists,not to mention the Muslim grooming gangs preying on their kids while the authorities cover up the crimes for the sake of diversity. That sucks, I am sorry to hear this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diddyman68 Posted August 12 #19 Share Posted August 12 33 minutes ago, Setton said: Not true, that would be self-defence. True, if he isn't posing a deadly threat and you respond with deadly force. Utter rubbish. You're perfectly entitled to defend yourself in the UK. What you're not entitled to do, unlike some parts of the US, is start a fight with someone, get pushed over then shoot the other guy dead. For example. You contradict yourself here. Firstly there are many instances of people defending others and getting charged for manslaughter. If a burglar attacks me in my own home and I defend myself by stabbing him how was that not me responding to a deadly threat. In my book if someone invades my property and me and my family are threatened,the consequences are on the invader not me. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dejarma Posted August 12 #20 Share Posted August 12 47 minutes ago, Setton said: Not true, that would be self-defence. only if there are witnesses Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Still Waters Posted August 13 #21 Share Posted August 13 A 32-year-old man has appeared in court charged with attempted murder after an 11-year-old girl was stabbed in London’s Leicester Square on Monday. Ioan Pintaru, a Romanian national with no fixed address, is also charged with possession of a bladed article. The prosecutor told the court that Mr Pintaru allegedly placed the girl into a headlock and stabbed her eight times. She was taken to hospital with serious injuries. Westminster Magistrates' Court remanded Mr Pintaru in custody. He is due to appear at the Old Bailey in September. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c5y3e6dl6wgo 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Still Waters Posted August 15 #22 Share Posted August 15 Girl, 11, stabbed in London attack is Australian tourist The Australian foreign ministry disclosed her nationality on Tuesday and said it was offering assistance to the girl and her mother, who was with her at the time of the attack. Both had been visiting London on holiday when they were set upon in the popular tourist district on Monday. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cgm71zynrm9o 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pellinore Posted August 15 Author #23 Share Posted August 15 On 8/12/2024 at 11:55 PM, diddyman68 said: There are plenty guns around in the criminal fraternity,even though guns are illegal,London is on a Parr with new Yorks murder rate. Mostly knife crime,by black gangs,the police used to stop and search them but the gangbangers complained it was racist so now they let them roam the streets with machetes and swords. And average people who protest about the police not protecting their kids are branded as far right extremists,not to mention the Muslim grooming gangs preying on their kids while the authorities cover up the crimes for the sake of diversity. There is less than 1% difference between the numbers of Black and White knife crime perpetrators. This is one study, but there have been many more. And when you consider serial killers- Dr Shipman, the Yorkshire Ripper, Denis Nilsen, Lucy Letby, etc- the Blacks can't hold a candle to the Whites. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buzz_Light_Year Posted August 15 #24 Share Posted August 15 15 minutes ago, pellinore said: There is less than 1% difference between the numbers of Black and White knife crime perpetrators As a percentage of population they do commit more crime. https://www.ethnicity-facts-figures.service.gov.uk/uk-population-by-ethnicity/national-and-regional-populations/population-of-england-and-wales/latest/ Quote according to the 2021 Census, the total population of England and Wales was 59.6 million, and 81.7% of the population was white people from Asian ethnic groups made up the second largest percentage of the population (9.3%), followed by black (4.0%), mixed (2.9%) and other (2.1%) ethnic groups 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pellinore Posted August 15 Author #25 Share Posted August 15 17 minutes ago, Buzz_Light_Year said: As a percentage of population they do commit more crime. https://www.ethnicity-facts-figures.service.gov.uk/uk-population-by-ethnicity/national-and-regional-populations/population-of-england-and-wales/latest/ The stats you provide do not show crime rates- could you pick them out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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