My two experiences with the paranormal 👻

[BareDevil]

My dad and I went rabbit hunting Saturday morning and after a while I was starting to tire out (5 or 6 at the time) so one of his buddies dropped me off at the house on his way home while dad kept hunting. The front door opens to the living room and you can see down the hall straight to the kitchen. There wasn't anyone home and the house was real quiet. I was looking down the hallway when a gray orb went from one bedroom across the hall to the other. It wasn't fast, it looked like it wobbled in the air about two feet off the ground. I went in bedroom and looked everywhere for it but never found it. My oldest sister said she had an encounter with something when I was a baby in the house.

Second time I was going through a really, nasty emotional divorce and I took to sleeping on the couch. Before falling asleep I would lay there watching TV. Out of the corner of my eye I would see something standing at the corner at the short hallway. It looked to be about three foot tall and grayish looking. This would go on every night. I would get up and look but never find anything. Several months later a friend came over to watch a movie and try and cheer me up. As we were sitting there I looked over at her and she was looking at the hallway. I was like you saw it too? She said something she saw something out of the corner of her eye. She described it the same. When the NCAA tournament kicked off my cousin would come over and watch the games with me. We were sitting there and all of a sudden he said there's something in that F'ing hallway. I told him it won't bother ya. He said that **** is creepy. 

So that's my two experiences in life that's kept me interested! 

[Grim Reaper 6]

Very interesting stories, I enjoyed hearing them.

Welcome to the forum.

[zep73]

Don't take this the wrong way. I mean no disrespect. But...

1) You trust your memory from when you were 5 y.o. ?
2) You probably were asleep.

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[the13bats]

First off i am super sorry to hear you went thru emotional trauma things can and do scar people for life, it changes us and not always for the better.

That said and yeah im not trying to offend you but at 59 i sure would not trust a memory from my young days, the fact you were dropped at home because you were tired is a clue, Pretty much Hypnagogic hallucinations, could explain that, However, it wouldnt explain claims that others experienced weirdness too but us here only have you and your story.

I dont believe stories but others here do.

 

[papageorge1]

I think this stuff is not all that uncommon.

Your multiple witness case sounds interesting especially where you said 'she described it the same'. They are much harder for a skeptic to dismiss.

[Alchopwn]

These sorts of events are rare.  By that I mean that most people will have a couple of brushes with them over the course of their life.  It may be that our brains misfire and have short schizophrenic episodes where dreams leak into our consciousness.  When there are multiple witnesses, this becomes a lot less likely.

What amuses me is that most skeptics will almost certainly have these events too, and the cognitive dissonance they will experience as their world view is damaged will be hilarious.  You will watch them collapse into superstition.  I fondly remember being in a "haunted house" watching some academic skeptics lose their minds and fall to the ground in terrified prayer like medieval peasants over what we proved to be a fox vixen and her nursing cubs under the floorboards.  Good times 🤣

Edited August 14 by Alchopwn

[Ell]

6 hours ago, BareDevil said:

I was looking down the hallway when a gray orb went from one bedroom across the hall to the other. It wasn't fast, it looked like it wobbled in the air about two feet off the ground.

A dust bunny? Webbing? A cloud of small insects?

 

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Out of the corner of my eye I would see something standing at the corner at the short hallway. It looked to be about three foot tall and grayish looking. This would go on every night.

That might be some feature that your subconscious mind interpreted as a figure. So a kind of pareidolia.

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[the13bats]

3 hours ago, papageorge1 said:

I think this stuff is not all that uncommon.

Your multiple witness case sounds interesting especially where you said 'she described it the same'. They are much harder for a skeptic to dismiss.

No, it isnt because "she" isnt here collaborating anything, remember i dont have to prove she wasnt there. Its still just a story.

[the13bats]

3 hours ago, Alchopwn said:

These sorts of events are rare.  By that I mean that most people will have a couple of brushes with them over the course of their life.  It may be that our brains misfire and have short schizophrenic episodes where dreams leak into our consciousness.  When there are multiple witnesses, this becomes a lot less likely.

What amuses me is that most skeptics will almost certainly have these events too, and the cognitive dissonance they will experience as their world view is damaged will be hilarious.  You will watch them collapse into superstition.  I fondly remember being in a "haunted house" watching some academic skeptics lose their minds and fall to the ground in terrified prayer like medieval peasants over what we proved to be a fox vixen and her nursing cubs under the floorboards.  Good times 🤣

Typical  Typical empty handed true believer, they think their opinions are facts, then make up examples of things they cant support with anything except a made up story. Very hilarious.

 

Edited August 14 by the13bats

[Scream Queen]

Wow, that's fascinating! Your experiences sound truly unsettling, yet intriguing. It's interesting that you've had multiple encounters in the same location, and that others have witnessed similar phenomena. The gray orb and grayish figure seem to be recurring themes. Have you ever considered investigating the history of your home or the land it's built on? Sometimes, these types of experiences can be connected to past events or energies. Either way, your stories are captivating and have certainly piqued my interest!

[Guyver]

Interesting stories.  Sounds like there’s two different things being observed.  One is an orb and the other is s small figure of some type.  That more than one person has seen it is intriguing. Not sure if you thought it was a human type figure or not.  I’m sure some people might think it’s a ghost or spirit as some people believe orbs are related to ghosts or spirits….

For me, I’m thinking that when we get tired, especially if we are falling asleep on the couch in front of the tv, we can see things out of our periphery that seem like shadows but might just be fatigue.  The other thing is that the tv sends out “blinking” or strobing effect, and this can cast shadows, or light can kind of seem to bounce around a bit and trick our minds into seeing blurs or shadows that are just an effect of projected light. So, it could be something, or nothing, I’m not sure which.

[papageorge1]

6 hours ago, the13bats said:

No, it isnt because "she" isnt here collaborating anything, remember i dont have to prove she wasnt there. Its still just a story.

It's not about proof, but 'what is most reasonable to believe'. Even claims of collaborating witnesses does add to the believability in a reasonable analysis.

[Piney]

14 hours ago, BareDevil said:

Second time I was going through a really, nasty emotional divorce and I took to sleeping on the couch. Before falling asleep I would lay there watching TV. Out of the corner of my eye I would see something standing at the corner at the short hallway. It looked to be about three foot tall and grayish looking. This would go on every night. 

In Voodoo these are called Snails. In Lenape, Chii'pai. They are stress created subconscious thoughtforms.

I suffered from them after a stroke.

10 hours ago, Alchopwn said:

What amuses me is that most skeptics will almost certainly have these events too, and the cognitive dissonance they will experience as their world view is damaged will be hilarious.  You will watch them collapse into superstition.  I fondly remember being in a "haunted house" watching some academic skeptics lose their minds and fall to the ground in terrified prayer like medieval peasants over what we proved to be a fox vixen and her nursing cubs under the floorboards.  Good times 🤣

What about those raised in a "Witchdoctor family" who experienced all kinds of craziness as a child then figured out the psychology behind it as a adult?

[the13bats]

2 hours ago, papageorge1 said:

It's not about proof, but 'what is most reasonable to believe'. Even claims of collaborating witnesses does add to the believability in a reasonable analysis.

Actually to prove a claim is more than a story, a tall tale it does take proof as in tangible evidence in these type claims unknown alleged unaccounted witnesses who are being spoken for second etc party do not count, they are simple part of an alleged story.  It doesnt matter how artistically you word it belief isnt fact or truth no matter how much you want it to be, a kid can consider it reasonable to believe in santa that kid has others who will collaborate santa is real it doesnt make it so.

[papageorge1]

27 minutes ago, the13bats said:

Actually to prove a claim ......

My very first words were

3 hours ago, papageorge1 said:

It's not about proof, 

 

31 minutes ago, the13bats said:

 It doesnt matter how artistically you word it belief isnt fact or truth no matter how much you want it to be, a kid can consider it reasonable to believe in santa that kid has others who will collaborate santa is real it doesnt make it so.

But I don't know of any adults that believe in Santa. But I do know of normal adults that believe they experienced the paranormal. There's the difference.

[the13bats]

3 hours ago, Guyver said:

Interesting stories.  Sounds like there’s two different things being observed.  One is an orb and the other is s small figure of some type.  That more than one person has seen it is intriguing. Not sure if you thought it was a human type figure or not.  I’m sure some people might think it’s a ghost or spirit as some people believe orbs are related to ghosts or spirits….

For me, I’m thinking that when we get tired, especially if we are falling asleep on the couch in front of the tv, we can see things out of our periphery that seem like shadows but might just be fatigue.  The other thing is that the tv sends out “blinking” or strobing effect, and this can cast shadows, or light can kind of seem to bounce around a bit and trick our minds into seeing blurs or shadows that are just an effect of projected light. So, it could be something, or nothing, I’m not sure which.

Yeah, i would suspect most people at some point in their lives see things corner of eye or full on hallucinations like when my grandmother saw little mice creatures on her hospital bed most people dont jump to it can only be supernatural,  paranormal.

[the13bats]

9 minutes ago, papageorge1 said:

My very first words were

 

But I don't know of any adults that believe in Santa. But I do know of normal adults that believe they experienced the paranormal. There's the difference.

For you beliefs are not about proof or having any supporting evidence we are all very aware how very credulous you are thank you for confirming that.

Yeah i know some think kids are allowed to be naive credious and delusional and adults are not i say hogwash, a mentally ill person who cant tell fantasy from reality is no more credible that a child who thinks a monster lives under there beds and speaking like that i know a lot of adults who believe monsters live under their beds heck i know one guy who actually thinks the ghost of a kid who killed himself comes and plays pranks on  him.

Actually beliefs in paranormal and beliefs in santa or any well proven fantasy are very much the same thing they are both beliefs which are not supported by any evidence that stands up to scrutiny or scientific examinations,

 

[BareDevil]

I should have said this in my post, these two occurrences happened in two different houses. Sorry I didn't add that. My oldest sister (16yrs old at the time) had a encounter in the first house like I did. She was babysitting me when  I was a baby and she was walking from the kitchen down the hallway to the living room. She said she had hung her jacket on the back of a chair. When she walked in the light living room it was partially lifted up like someone was looking at it. She screamed and ran out the door and wouldn't return till mom got home from work. 

[Alchopwn]

13 hours ago, Piney said:

In Voodoo these are called Snails. In Lenape, Chii'pai. They are stress created subconscious thoughtforms.  I suffered from them after a stroke.

That's an interesting take on them for certain.  You mean egregore/tulpa kind of thoughtforms, right?

17 hours ago, Piney said:

What about those raised in a "Witchdoctor family" who experienced all kinds of craziness as a child then figured out the psychology behind it as a adult?

Probably more interesting than being raised Catholic or Baptist tbh, count your blessings sir. 

[Piney]

38 minutes ago, Alchopwn said:

That's an interesting take on them for certain.  You mean egregore/tulpa kind of thoughtforms, right?

Yep

38 minutes ago, Alchopwn said:

Probably more interesting than being raised Catholic or Baptist tbh, count your blessings sir. 

Being educated by a Quaker aunt was just as interesting. 

[TashaMarie]

On 8/14/2024 at 2:18 AM, BareDevil said:

My dad and I went rabbit hunting Saturday morning and after a while I was starting to tire out (5 or 6 at the time) so one of his buddies dropped me off at the house on his way home while dad kept hunting. The front door opens to the living room and you can see down the hall straight to the kitchen. There wasn't anyone home and the house was real quiet. I was looking down the hallway when a gray orb went from one bedroom across the hall to the other. It wasn't fast, it looked like it wobbled in the air about two feet off the ground. I went in bedroom and looked everywhere for it but never found it. My oldest sister said she had an encounter with something when I was a baby in the house.

Second time I was going through a really, nasty emotional divorce and I took to sleeping on the couch. Before falling asleep I would lay there watching TV. Out of the corner of my eye I would see something standing at the corner at the short hallway. It looked to be about three foot tall and grayish looking. This would go on every night. I would get up and look but never find anything. Several months later a friend came over to watch a movie and try and cheer me up. As we were sitting there I looked over at her and she was looking at the hallway. I was like you saw it too? She said something she saw something out of the corner of her eye. She described it the same. When the NCAA tournament kicked off my cousin would come over and watch the games with me. We were sitting there and all of a sudden he said there's something in that F'ing hallway. I told him it won't bother ya. He said that **** is creepy. 

So that's my two experiences in life that's kept me interested! 

Do you get eye floaters I have seen them described as blobs and can be gray in colour.  

[BareDevil]

13 hours ago, TashaMarie said:

Do you get eye floaters I have seen them described as blobs and can be gray in colour.  

If I did they disappeared right at the door of the bedroom! 

[Alchopwn]

16 hours ago, Piney said:

Yep

Being educated by a Quaker aunt was just as interesting. 

I bet you feel a bit more conflicted about Quakers than I do as an atheist.  As far as I am concerned, if I had to pick a Christian sect to join, the Quakers seem pretty decent, except for the whole "non-violent" thing.  I think violence, too, has its place in the world.

[+joc]

On 8/14/2024 at 1:58 PM, the13bats said:

Yeah, i would suspect most people at some point in their lives see things corner of eye or full on hallucinations like when my grandmother saw little mice creatures on her hospital bed most people dont jump to it can only be supernatural,  paranormal.

It's not what I see...it's what I don't see.  Lately, I will sit something down, a tool, a wallet, anything really.  I will literally turn around to do something else for 5 seconds and then turn back around...and it's gone.  I will thoroughly search the entire area, looking under things, whatever camouflage might be in the way.  I will leave to look for it somewhere else and when I return, there it is...right where I knew I left it the first time.  I watched a show once years ago about the Blue Men.  They are the ones who create the moments we experience and sometimes they forget to move an item into the next moment...when they remembered then they would put it back where it was supposed to have been already. 

The frequency of these items missing is what bothers me.    

[+joc]

28 minutes ago, Alchopwn said:

I bet you feel a bit more conflicted about Quakers than I do as an atheist.  As far as I am concerned, if I had to pick a Christian sect to join, the Quakers seem pretty decent, except for the whole "non-violent" thing.  I think violence, too, has its place in the world.

Some people should die.  I don't however consider it my place to make that happen.