Is there finally proof of alien implants in human bodies?

[Green Devil]

On 9/2/2024 at 2:12 AM, MrAnderson said:

Who says it's a reasonable speculation and since when the accounts of these alleged abductees fit sleep paralysis. It looks like an attempt to fit it retrospectively.

it's aliens.

[Green Devil]

 

[Green Devil]

 

[Hazzard]

Spamming the threads with tube videos isnt exactly what this forum is about.

At least throw in some some of your own thoughts and opinions on the topic!

[Green Devil]

3 minutes ago, Hazzard said:

Spamming the threads with tube videos isnt exactly what this forum is about.

At least throw in some some of your own thoughts and opinions on the topic!

 

The idea that aliens may have visited the Earth is becoming increasingly popular. Around a fifth of UK citizens believe Earth has been visited by extraterrestrials, and an estimated 7% believe that they have seen a UFO.

The figures are even higher in the US – and rising. The number of people who believe UFO sightings offer likely proof of alien life increased from 20% in 1996 to 34% in 2022. Some 24% of Americans say they’ve seen a UFO.

 

 

 

https://theconversation.com/belief-in-alien-visits-to-earth-is-spiralling-out-of-control-heres-why-thats-so-dangerous-237789

[Hazzard]

4 minutes ago, Green Devil said:

 

The idea that aliens may have visited the Earth is becoming increasingly popular. Around a fifth of UK citizens believe Earth has been visited by extraterrestrials, and an estimated 7% believe that they have seen a UFO.

The figures are even higher in the US – and rising. The number of people who believe UFO sightings offer likely proof of alien life increased from 20% in 1996 to 34% in 2022. Some 24% of Americans say they’ve seen a UFO.

https://theconversation.com/belief-in-alien-visits-to-earth-is-spiralling-out-of-control-heres-why-thats-so-dangerous-237789

Maybe you missed the part where I said "your own thoughts and opinions"...?

[Green Devil]

1 minute ago, Hazzard said:

Maybe you missed the part where I said "your own thoughts and opinions"...?

i believe in ufos. i believe in alien abductions.

[Hazzard]

1 minute ago, Green Devil said:

i believe in ufos. i believe in alien abductions.

When it comes to UFOs its not a matter of believing - They exist. We all know it. They are seen every day all over the world.

What specifically made you believe in alien abductions?

[MrAnderson]

2 hours ago, Green Devil said:

i believe in ufos. i believe in alien abductions.

 

2 hours ago, Hazzard said:

When it comes to UFOs its not a matter of believing - They exist. We all know it. They are seen every day all over the world.

What specifically made you believe in alien abductions?

That's their own personal opinion and they don't really need to explain what they accept of believe them to be true. I would say that the same things made them accept/believe in UFOs resulted in them accepting/believing in alleged alien abductions. It is true that UFOs are seen all over the world as it's a global phenomenon but they are seen having extraordinary capabilities in a number of cases.

[Resume]

10 hours ago, MrAnderson said:

What you think about your experience is irrelevant to these cases. If you want to argue that all or most sightings are a result of hypnagogia and hypnopompia then you are dangerously stretching your argument because UFO sightings and other paranormal events usually happen when we are awake and not when we are sleeping. Yes you can have sleep related events but that's something different.

The phenomena I am presenting as candidate explanations are not occurring during dream states but as a person is either going into one, or emerging from one, which is why they are called hallucinations. You have no idea what state these claimants are in other than what they claim.  

These phenomena are still more reasonable than alienzz abductionzzzz.

[Hazzard]

1 hour ago, MrAnderson said:

That's their own personal opinion and they don't really need to explain what they accept of believe them to be true. 

Was I talking to you??

[Resume]

10 hours ago, MrAnderson said:

I never said they are true. I said IF they are true . . . .

If does quite a bit of work in this thread.

10 hours ago, MrAnderson said:

You see from my posts that I wasn't the person to bring up alleged abductions by aliens. But I cannot dismiss the accounts of these otherwise credible people as described by John Mack based on the basis of sleep paralysis which may not be true in their case because it's just a speculation. On the other hand we really don't know if there is any link between sleep paralysis and alleged alien abductions or that sleep paralysis is caused (in these cases) by hypnagogia and hypnopompia a it can have many causes.

The phenomena being presented as candidate explanations are far reasonable than alienzzzz abductionzzzz.

Nuh-uh is a p*** poor argument.

[Resume]

4 hours ago, Green Devil said:

it's aliens.

So your saying here is . . .  it's aliens?

[MrAnderson]

2 minutes ago, Resume said:

If does quite a bit of work in this thread.

The phenomena being presented as candidate explanations are far reasonable than alienzzzz abductionzzzz.

Nuh-uh is a p*** poor argument.

In your own opinion these are valid explanations. But there is a problem with this. Nobody has proven that sleep paralysis is associated with the alleged alien abductions and you are assuming that the cause of sleep paralysis in these cases was hypnagogia and hypnopompia. Even if you want exclude completely the testimonies of the alleged abductees there is nothing much into these speculations other than there is a possibility that they could be true.

[Resume]

Just now, MrAnderson said:

In your own opinion these are valid explanations.

It's an informed opinion that does not multiply entities unecessarily.

Just now, MrAnderson said:

But there is a problem with this. Nobody has proven that sleep paralysis is associated with the alleged alien abductions and you are assuming that the cause of sleep paralysis in these cases was hypnagogia and hypnopompia. Even if you want exclude completely the testimonies of the alleged abductees there is nothing much into these speculations other than there is a possibility that they could be true.

Not only does If do quite a lot of heavy lifting for you, so does Nuh-Uh. Your handwaving a common, naturally occurring, demonstrable phenomena is noted.

Lying is also a common human action.  People delude themselves;. memory is malleable and human beings are fallible.  All of this is demonstrated every single day.  To entertain a fabulist claim while simultaneously handwaving away reasonable, rational candidate explanations is the height of credulity.

[Green Devil]

On 9/3/2024 at 6:38 PM, Resume said:

So your saying here is . . .  it's aliens?

i believe in alien visitation and alien implants.

[Hazzard]

2 hours ago, Green Devil said:

i believe in alien visitation and alien implants.

... Santa and Bigfoot?

[MrAnderson]

1 hour ago, Hazzard said:

... Santa and Bigfoot?

Can you really create this false equivalency between Santa and possible alien visitation. What is the difference between these two? What is the probability that Santa exists? What is the probability that aliens could have visited us in the past or are visiting us at the moment or will visit us in the future. When you have a universe with hundreds of billions of galaxies and hundreds of billions of stars per galaxy then you need to think this isn't the case of Santa.

Edited September 5 by MrAnderson

[cormac mac airt]

2 minutes ago, MrAnderson said:

Can you really create this false equivalency between Santa and possible alien visitation. What is the difference between these two? What is the probability that Santa exists? What is the probability that aliens could have visited us in the past or are visiting us at the moment or will visit us in the future.

There is no probability, at most it’s only a possibility and one that hinges on the definitive and verifiable existence of ETs which thus far has NOT occurred. 
 

cormac

[MrAnderson]

2 minutes ago, cormac mac airt said:

There is no probability, at most it’s only a possibility and one that hinges on the definitive and verifiable existence of ETs which thus far has NOT occurred. 
 

cormac

If you want to use both words then it's both possible and probable and alien visitation has nothing in common with a fictional character like Santa.

[cormac mac airt]

2 minutes ago, MrAnderson said:

If you want to use both words then it's both possible and probable and alien visitation has nothing in common with a fictional character like Santa.

Thus far alien visitation is just as fictional as Santa Claus, prove me wrong! Your point? 
 

cormac

[MrAnderson]

6 minutes ago, cormac mac airt said:

Thus far alien visitation is just as fictional as Santa Claus, prove me wrong! Your point? 
 

cormac

It's both probable and possible. Santa is a fictional character. Are you sure that alien life and alien visitation are fiction? If alien life has zero probability of existence then NASA wouldn't be investing heavily in trying to get to Europa and find it. We wouldn't have places like SETI and we wouldn't be sending signals in the hope they are received. Allen visitation may seem less possible and probable but it is still possible and probable.

[cormac mac airt]

4 minutes ago, MrAnderson said:

It's both probable and possible. Santa is a fictional character. Are you sure that alien life and alien visitation are fiction? If alien life has zero probability of existence then NASA wouldn't be investing heavily in trying to get to Europa and find it. We wouldn't have places like SETI and we wouldn't be sending signals in the hope they are received. Allen visitation may seem less possible and probable but it is still possible and probable.

Alien life is probable. Alien visitation is an unevidenced possibility and nothing more. 
 

cormac

[MrAnderson]

10 hours ago, cormac mac airt said:

Alien life is probable. Alien visitation is an unevidenced possibility and nothing more. 
 

cormac

It's still possible and probably though. As for the evidence, we still don't have evidence of any alien life (at least at an official level) but we have just started our cosmic journey. We haven't been anywhere other than the moon and we can only send probes to other places in the solar system. Our knowledge is very limited.

[Hazzard]

26 minutes ago, MrAnderson said:

Our knowledge is very limited.

Especially yours.