Jews were Exiles from Crete

[Abramelin]

5 minutes ago, cormac mac airt said:

Southeast Turkey was considered part of Mesopotamia, not all of Turkey. 
 

cormac

I know, and you can read that in my quote from wiki.

[The Puzzler]

5 minutes ago, Abramelin said:

Maybe these Jews did indeed flee from Crete around that time to some place in Libya = Africa.

All Tacitus did is create some sort of 'etymology' to explain why it could be true.

First we'll have to find out if Jews fled from Crete around or a bit before Tacitus' time.

Yes. 

[The Puzzler]

1 hour ago, Ell said:

I do not care about haplotypes.

Give me all your money and I will lead all haplotypes to Disneyland!

lol now I must go to bed.

”He moreover bid them renounce their money and other property, pledging himself to guide them through a dry sea into the land of promise. Deluded by such expectations, they neglected business of every kind, despising what they possessed, and permitting any one who chose to take it. “

[Abramelin]

22 minutes ago, The Puzzler said:

Yes. 

And here is a start:

https://blog.nli.org.il/en/lbh-jewish-crete/

[Piney]

3 hours ago, Abramelin said:

And here is a start:

https://blog.nli.org.il/en/lbh-jewish-crete/

A Romaniote revival is a good thing considering they were almost wiped out on more than one occasion. 

[Thanos5150]

The History of the Jews of Crete

Jewish communities in Crete have existed since the 4^th and 3rd centuries BCE when Jews from Eretz Israel/Palestine and Egypt first established settlements on the island (and elsewhere in Greece) following the conquest and Hellenisation of the Near East by Alexander the Great. Thus, they constitute one of the oldest diaspora communities in the eastern Mediterranean and are called Romaniote Jews. The term ‘Romaniote’ refers to those Jews who trace their origins to the Hellenised, Greek-speaking Jews of the Eastern Mediterranean in the Roman/Byzantine and Ottoman Empires and the subsequent nation states that emerged in those territories. Romaniote Jews developed a distinct liturgical tradition and spoke ‘Yevanic’, a Judeo-Greek dialect infused with Hebrew loanwords and written in Hebrew script, and Romaniote synagogues like Etz Hayyim have a distinctive interior layout. The history of Cretan Jews can be traced in ancient inscriptions, medieval manuscripts and other written and archaeological sources, as well as Etz Hayyim Synagogue in Hania, today the only remaining testament to their presence on the island.

Edited August 28 by Thanos5150

[Antigonos]

39 minutes ago, Thanos5150 said:

The History of the Jews of Crete

Jewish communities in Crete have existed since the 4^th and 3rd centuries BCE when Jews from Eretz Israel/Palestine and Egypt first established settlements on the island (and elsewhere in Greece) following the conquest and Hellenisation of the Near East by Alexander the Great. Thus, they constitute one of the oldest diaspora communities in the eastern Mediterranean and are called Romaniote Jews. The term ‘Romaniote’ refers to those Jews who trace their origins to the Hellenised, Greek-speaking Jews of the Eastern Mediterranean in the Roman/Byzantine and Ottoman Empires and the subsequent nation states that emerged in those territories. Romaniote Jews developed a distinct liturgical tradition and spoke ‘Yevanic’, a Judeo-Greek dialect infused with Hebrew loanwords and written in Hebrew script, and Romaniote synagogues like Etz Hayyim have a distinctive interior layout. The history of Cretan Jews can be traced in ancient inscriptions, medieval manuscripts and other written and archaeological sources, as well as Etz Hayyim Synagogue in Hania, today the only remaining testament to their presence on the island.

Yep, Cretan Jews were a product of the Hellenistic Age. They certainly didn’t originate there.

[Abramelin]

2 hours ago, Antigonos said:

Yep, Cretan Jews were a product of the Hellenistic Age. They certainly didn’t originate there.

That's what Tacitus thought.

[The Puzzler]

On 8/27/2024 at 10:50 PM, Piney said:

Antisemitism anyone? 🙄

How can I be? You’re not getting what I’m saying. again, I will call on Saru if you continue this lame name calling.

[The Puzzler]

13 hours ago, Abramelin said:

That's what Tacitus thought.

Interesting though…how he places the event when Jupiter (Zeus) overthrew Saturn…”in the days when”…so…that event must be much later than we think.

Edited August 29 by The Puzzler

[The Puzzler]

15 hours ago, Antigonos said:

Yep, Cretan Jews were a product of the Hellenistic Age. They certainly didn’t originate there.

Well…it seems so…but is that when Jupiter overtook Saturn..? In those days…not that I’m against Greek history being hundreds of years later than they state, in their bogus mythologies…

[The Puzzler]

On 8/28/2024 at 6:04 AM, Piney said:

A Romaniote revival is a good thing considering they were almost wiped out on more than one occasion. here…

They were and you should ask yourself why.

why is the World so afraid they try everything to rid it of a people, who will undoubtably save you, from yourselves…?

Nutjobs here in Australia…protesting save Palestine…these losers should be happy we even let them in. They are dominating in England right now…blame wokeness x

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[The Puzzler]

We know even, that Hitler was E1b…a Berber type and his girlfriend Eva Braun was Jewish…there’s no questions…just answers….

[The Puzzler]

17 hours ago, Thanos5150 said:

The History of the Jews of Crete

Jewish communities in Crete have existed since the 4^th and 3rd centuries BCE when Jews from Eretz Israel/Palestine and Egypt first established settlements on the island (and elsewhere in Greece) following the conquest and Hellenisation of the Near East by Alexander the Great. Thus, they constitute one of the oldest diaspora communities in the eastern Mediterranean and are called Romaniote Jews. The term ‘Romaniote’ refers to those Jews who trace their origins to the Hellenised, Greek-speaking Jews of the Eastern Mediterranean in the Roman/Byzantine and Ottoman Empires and the subsequent nation states that emerged in those territories. Romaniote Jews developed a distinct liturgical tradition and spoke ‘Yevanic’, a Judeo-Greek dialect infused with Hebrew loanwords and written in Hebrew script, and Romaniote synagogues like Etz Hayyim have a distinctive interior layout. The history of Cretan Jews can be traced in ancient inscriptions, medieval manuscripts and other written and archaeological sources, as well as Etz Hayyim Synagogue in Hania, today the only remaining testament to their presence on the island.

….so this is when Jupiter overthrew Saturn…maybe it is.

[The Puzzler]

On 8/28/2024 at 1:45 AM, Abramelin said:

I know, and you can read that in my quote from wiki.

Interesting is…Turkey is really a peninsula…a nesos…

Australians were directed to climb the exact beach cliffs the Achaeans had…we lost.

Gallipoli is a pilgrimage for all Australians. Showed us…a lesson…we were no Achaeans.

Gallipoli. We celebrate this loss on ANZAC Day…lt wasn’t about the loss, it was about the spirit…of the Australian and New Zealand Army Corps.

ANZAC stands for Australian and New Zealand Army Corps. Anzac Day falls on the 25th of April each year. The 25th of April was officially named Anzac Day in 1916. On the 25th of April 1915, Australian and New Zealand soldiers formed part of the allied expedition that set out to capture the Gallipoli peninsula.

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[The Puzzler]

On 8/28/2024 at 2:17 AM, Abramelin said:

And here is a start:

https://blog.nli.org.il/en/lbh-jewish-crete/

I only got this far..

”Jews first arrived in Crete from Egypt some 2,300 years ago, perhaps as part of Egyptian military campaigns. A century or two later, they came from the Land of Israel during the Maccabean Revolt.”

From Egypt…this just gets better.

Why did they arrive in 300BC from..Egypt or even Libya…? Losers from the Punic Wars…?

Sorry, I should read the rest of the article I guess.

 

Edited August 29 by The Puzzler

[The Puzzler]

[The Puzzler]

18 hours ago, Antigonos said:

Yep, Cretan Jews were a product of the Hellenistic Age. They certainly didn’t originate there.

I don’t see anything yet that discounts it tbh.

Even Hyksos times show intermediary culture from Minoan Crete to Egypt.

I accept there was a Jewish exile in Hellenistic times from Crete c.? 100-100

Is Tacitus really referring to yesterday in his time…or prior times…

Because…this timeframe doesn’t align with when, even Romans, (Tacitus); saw the fall of Zeus to Saturn (I wouldn’t think) …and I can even interpret this concept at various times…but nothing in this time constitutes a Saturn fall…

What of Zeus taking Europe in Bull form?

what of them moving to Libya…

were they a part of the Carthage side in the Punic Wars? We’re they there at all..

when did the mythologies truely get written….because the stories of Rome are very late…maybe they should all be placed when Livy wrote it…

Edited August 29 by The Puzzler

[The Puzzler]

 

OK, ten posts in a row, black ball me. I’ll wait for some answers.

Edited August 29 by The Puzzler

[Piney]

3 hours ago, The Puzzler said:

How can I be? You’re not getting what I’m saying. again, I will call on Saru if you continue this lame name calling.

I dropped that over a day ago when you told me what you meant. Why are you bringing it up? 😆

[Antigonos]

31 minutes ago, Piney said:

I dropped that over a day ago when you told me what you meant. Why are you bringing it up? 😆

Delayed reaction?

[Piney]

2 minutes ago, Antigonos said:

Delayed reaction?

Memory lapse...

[The Puzzler]

40 minutes ago, Piney said:

I dropped that over a day ago when you told me what you meant. Why are you bringing it up? 
 

I agree, it’s old, let’s move on.

Edited August 29 by The Puzzler

[The Puzzler]

4 minutes ago, Antigonos said:

Delayed reaction?

It came up as a new post in my feed, but yes, dropped.

[The Puzzler]

6 minutes ago, Piney said:

Memory lapse...

lol ok, any other answers to my other ten posts…?

Edited August 29 by The Puzzler