Claira Posted August 29 #1 Share Posted August 29 (edited) The Student Intifada, a growing coalition of pro-Palestinian, anti-Zionist student groups, is making clear its intention to disrupt the fall semester on school campuses across the United States. Across dozens of campuses currently opening their fall semesters, there are already calls for masked vigils in support of “Palestine.” Troublingly, many of the groups have gone from calling for demonstrations and encampments to condoning the use of violence and “the total eradication of Western civilization.” https://www.timesofisrael.com/uniting-as-the-student-intifada-anti-israel-groups-plan-to-further-disrupt-us-campuses/ Edited August 29 by Claira Fixed formatting. 4 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claira Posted August 29 Author #2 Share Posted August 29 A small sample of what's already happening on some campuses: Anti-Israel activists protest event welcoming new Columbia University students https://www.jpost.com/diaspora/article-816427 MIT denounces distribution of 'antisemitic' Mapping Project flyers at orientation https://www.jpost.com/diaspora/antisemitism/article-816981 Anti-Israel activists vandalize Cornell University on first day of class https://www.jpost.com/diaspora/article-816631 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrimsonKing Posted August 29 #3 Share Posted August 29 I'm wondering if their numbers will be quite like they were this previous spring... I'm thinking some of the purple haired ones may have lost a little interest over the summer,and may now be seeing it won't do anything to help Kamala. Going to be interesting to say the least. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claira Posted August 29 Author #4 Share Posted August 29 6 minutes ago, CrimsonKing said: I'm wondering if their numbers will be quite like they were this previous spring... I'm thinking some of the purple haired ones may have lost a little interest over the summer,and may now be seeing it won't do anything to help Kamala. Going to be interesting to say the least. It's difficult to predict whether universities will see another surge of protests, but there are student (and other) activists who are in the process of ramping up that momentum once again. What will be interesting is whether the supposedly tougher rules in place on some campuses will have an impact. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrimsonKing Posted August 29 #5 Share Posted August 29 4 minutes ago, Claira said: What will be interesting is whether the supposedly tougher rules in place on some campuses will have an impact. Very true,one thing is for sure though...the DNC brought the NG in to help with securing things right away,and very little nonsense went down. Rules and regulations must be enforced to actually do any good,arrest and release with zero consequences does nothing. 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claira Posted August 31 Author #6 Share Posted August 31 On 8/29/2024 at 4:14 PM, CrimsonKing said: Rules and regulations must be enforced to actually do any good,arrest and release with zero consequences does nothing. A lot of good the regulations are doing. The University of Maryland still allowed a pro-Palestinian group to hold a rally on October 7 of all days: Jewish campus groups and parents are criticizing a reported decision by the University of Maryland allowing a pro-Palestinian group to hold a rally on campus on October 7, the one-year anniversary of the Hamas attacks in Israel. The permit was given to Students for Justice in Palestine, according to the campus Hillel and Jewish Student Union, who decried SJP on Instagram without criticizing the university directly. “October 7 is a day of tragedy for the Jewish and Israeli community around the world. It is alarming to see that SJP has chosen this date, a day of Jewish mourning, to hold an event on campus,” the groups wrote Thursday on Instagram Stories. https://www.jpost.com/diaspora/antisemitism/article-817123 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claira Posted August 31 Author #7 Share Posted August 31 New York Jewish Week via JTA — Jewish students at Columbia University have been driven out of their dorm rooms, chased off campus, compelled to hide their Jewish identity, ostracized by their peers and denigrated by faculty, according to a report released Friday by the university’s Task Force on Antisemitism. The report, the second one released by the investigatory body made up of faculty, illustrated the breadth of anti-Jewish discrimination at the Ivy League campus. It also said that pervasive antisemitism on campus has “affected the entire university community.” https://www.timesofisrael.com/columbia-task-force-reports-crushing-discrimination-against-jews-and-israelis/ 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acidhead Posted August 31 #8 Share Posted August 31 7 hours ago, Claira said: A lot of good the regulations are doing. The University of Maryland still allowed a pro-Palestinian group to hold a rally on October 7 of all days: Jewish campus groups and parents are criticizing a reported decision by the University of Maryland allowing a pro-Palestinian group to hold a rally on campus on October 7, the one-year anniversary of the Hamas attacks in Israel. The permit was given to Students for Justice in Palestine, according to the campus Hillel and Jewish Student Union, who decried SJP on Instagram without criticizing the university directly. “October 7 is a day of tragedy for the Jewish and Israeli community around the world. It is alarming to see that SJP has chosen this date, a day of Jewish mourning, to hold an event on campus,” the groups wrote Thursday on Instagram Stories. https://www.jpost.com/diaspora/antisemitism/article-817123 Peaceful protest is a fundamental right and cornerstone of western democracies. (October 7, 2023 - August 29, 2024) The latest death toll as of August 29, 2024 stands at 41,266 Palestinians and 1,139 people killed in Israel since October 7, 2023. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.aljazeera.com/amp/news/longform/2023/10/9/israel-hamas-war-in-maps-and-charts-live-tracker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrimsonKing Posted August 31 #9 Share Posted August 31 6 hours ago, acidhead said: Peaceful protest is a fundamental right and cornerstone of western democracies. (October 7, 2023 - August 29, 2024) The latest death toll as of August 29, 2024 stands at 41,266 Palestinians and 1,139 people killed in Israel since October 7, 2023. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.aljazeera.com/amp/news/longform/2023/10/9/israel-hamas-war-in-maps-and-charts-live-tracker So now you are saying several of these "mostly peaceful" protests,that have some similarities to Charlottesville and the Floyd riots are a cornerstone of Western democracy...strange times. Every time I see someone flash that 40k number up without acknowledging 20k or more are/were terrorists,it just rings out of hollow self righteousness for something to wail about. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claira Posted September 1 Author #10 Share Posted September 1 17 hours ago, acidhead said: Peaceful protest is a fundamental right and cornerstone of western democracies. Are you not yet tired of being Rashida Tlaib's fan boy? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tatetopa Posted September 1 #11 Share Posted September 1 18 hours ago, acidhead said: Peaceful protest is a fundamental right and cornerstone of western democracies. He is right. Peaceful protests are a fundamental right. It is a pretty narrow line of behavior though. It doesn't even have to be the protestors themselves who turn into a riot. Freedom of expression is what Elon claims spurred him on to buy Twitter. People have a right to tell their story, other people can respond or ignore them. There are also laws to deal with riots 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
preacherman76 Posted September 1 #12 Share Posted September 1 This subject is so strange to me. With all the atrocities that happen on this planet everyday, including a massive slave trade in Africa that has never stopped, why is this so important to these people? 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antigonos Posted September 1 #13 Share Posted September 1 (edited) On 8/31/2024 at 3:54 AM, Claira said: New York Jewish Week via JTA — Jewish students at Columbia University have been driven out of their dorm rooms, chased off campus, compelled to hide their Jewish identity, ostracized by their peers and denigrated by faculty, according to a report released Friday by the university’s Task Force on Antisemitism. The report, the second one released by the investigatory body made up of faculty, illustrated the breadth of anti-Jewish discrimination at the Ivy League campus. It also said that pervasive antisemitism on campus has “affected the entire university community.” https://www.timesofisrael.com/columbia-task-force-reports-crushing-discrimination-against-jews-and-israelis/ I’ll always defend we the people’s right to peacefully protest in this nation. But this is clearly not what is taking place. In New York City of all places. That’s not the place I grew up with. WTF is happening? I hope this disgraceful crap stops. Jesus, that’s disheartening. Edited September 1 by Antigonos 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claira Posted September 1 Author #14 Share Posted September 1 11 hours ago, Tatetopa said: He is right. Peaceful protests are a fundamental right. It is a pretty narrow line of behavior though. It doesn't even have to be the protestors themselves who turn into a riot. Freedom of expression is what Elon claims spurred him on to buy Twitter. People have a right to tell their story, other people can respond or ignore them. There are also laws to deal with riots He is right, but using this 'fundamental right' to defend the upcoming protest is all kinds of wrong. No one is denying a person's right to a peaceful protest, but did you notice the date the Students for Justice in Palestine (SJP) chose for their rally? In the event you did not, it's October 7 — the one year anniversary of the Hamas attacks and a day of tragedy for Jews everywhere. Chapters of the SJP have praised the events of that day and it will not surprise me if their so-called rally becomes more of a celebration than a protest. The university should have had the SJP select another date. The fact that they did not do so speaks volumes. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claira Posted September 1 Author #15 Share Posted September 1 2 hours ago, preacherman76 said: This subject is so strange to me. With all the atrocities that happen on this planet everyday, including a massive slave trade in Africa that has never stopped, why is this so important to these people? Because Israelis are in the picture. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrimsonKing Posted September 1 #16 Share Posted September 1 12 minutes ago, Claira said: but did you notice the date the Students for Justice in Palestine (SJP) chose for their rally? In the event you did not, it's October 7 — the one year anniversary of the Hamas attacks and a day of tragedy for Jews everywhere. Chapters of the SJP have praised the events of that day and it will not surprise me if their so-called rally becomes more of a celebration than a protest. The university should have had the SJP select another date. The fact that they did not do so speaks volumes. These people know what they are doing,and it's sickening. That said,when you have full grown adults running around screaming and crying about 40,000 dead!... without actually paying attention to the details in the numbers what can one do. When Iran handed out thanks and congratulations to those abroad a few months back,they specifically meant those spreading their message without questioning anything...hell it can be seen even here. Educated people taking one of the biggest pieces of misinformation 40,000 and they still don't realize to this very day,that the Hamas run health ministry does not distinguish between civilians and combatants,they just help spread the message. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrimsonKing Posted September 1 #17 Share Posted September 1 12 hours ago, Tatetopa said: There are also laws to deal with riots If they are put into play and enforced... 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claira Posted September 1 Author #18 Share Posted September 1 5 minutes ago, CrimsonKing said: That said,when you have full grown adults running around screaming and crying about 40,000 dead!... without actually paying attention to the details in the numbers what can one do. Yes, and if it's not numbers, it's dead children. If these hypocrites truly cared about the plight of Palestinian innocents, they would also call out Hamas. How many children and adults has Hamas used as fighters, human shields and suicide bombers? How many of them has Hamas killed with its hundreds of misfired rockets? With all of the billions of dollars Hamas has stolen from the Palestinian people, they could have built bomb shelters, yet they chose not to. Why? And why are Hamas leaders relaxing poolside in luxury hotels, whilst Palestinians suffer in filthy camps? 14 minutes ago, CrimsonKing said: When Iran handed out thanks and congratulations to those abroad a few months back,they specifically meant those spreading their message without questioning anything...hell it can be seen even here. Thanking their useful idiots is exactly what Iran was doing. 17 minutes ago, CrimsonKing said: Educated people taking one of the biggest pieces of misinformation 40,000 and they still don't realize to this very day,that the Hamas run health ministry does not distinguish between civilians and combatants,they just help spread the message. Jew-hatred does weird things to people's brains. That's the only explanation I can think of. They believe the lies because they want to. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrimsonKing Posted September 1 #19 Share Posted September 1 Just now, Claira said: Yes, and if it's not numbers, it's dead children. If these hypocrites truly cared about the plight of Palestinian innocents, they would also call out Hamas. How many children and adults has Hamas used as fighters, human shields and suicide bombers? How many of them has Hamas killed with its hundreds of misfired rockets? With all of the billions of dollars Hamas has stolen from the Palestinian people, they could have built bomb shelters, yet they chose not to. Why? And why are Hamas leaders relaxing poolside in luxury hotels, whilst Palestinians suffer in filthy camps? Thanking their useful idiots is exactly what Iran was doing. Jew-hatred does weird things to people's brains. That's the only explanation I can think of. They believe the lies because they want to. Very well stated ma'am... They may aswell just be referred to as the Ayatollahs sock puppets. Question nothing,repeat everything. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claira Posted September 1 Author #20 Share Posted September 1 2 minutes ago, CrimsonKing said: If they are put into play and enforced... Yes IF. It continues to amaze with what many of these protesters have been allowed to get away with. By the way, and correct me if I'm wrong, but I've not seen much in the way of protests there in the US demanding the release of the American hostages held by Hamas. Why is that? Is it because they're viewed more as Jews/Israelis than they are as Americans? I would have expected Americans, more so than Europeans and others, to have caused a huge scene for their release. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrimsonKing Posted September 1 #21 Share Posted September 1 1 minute ago, Claira said: Yes IF. It continues to amaze with what many of these protesters have been allowed to get away with. By the way, and correct me if I'm wrong, but I've not seen much in the way of protests there in the US demanding the release of the American hostages held by Hamas. Why is that? Is it because they're viewed more as Jews/Israelis than they are as Americans? I would have expected Americans, more so than Europeans and others, to have caused a huge scene for their release. No doubt! A portion of people here have opened their minds a little to long,and something bad snuck in and has started nesting... About the only way to really describe it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrimsonKing Posted September 1 #22 Share Posted September 1 https://m.jpost.com/international/article-817031 Looks like an old face is trying to rise back up in Europe. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmccr8 Posted September 1 #23 Share Posted September 1 Where protests can be held should be something that can be regulated and universities should be off limits period. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tatetopa Posted September 1 #24 Share Posted September 1 2 hours ago, Claira said: He is right, but using this 'fundamental right' to defend the upcoming protest is all kinds of wrong. No one is denying a person's right to a peaceful protest, but did you notice the date the Students for Justice in Palestine (SJP) chose for their rally? In the event you did not, it's October 7 — the one year anniversary of the Hamas attacks and a day of tragedy for Jews everywhere. Chapters of the SJP have praised the events of that day and it will not surprise me if their so-called rally becomes more of a celebration than a protest. The university should have had the SJP select another date. The fact that they did not do so speaks volumes. All rights have boundaries. I agree with you, the date in inappropriate. I think Israelis and Palestinians can find a better way to coexist, and if people are asking for that, OK. We should help peace, dignity and prosperity be available for all humans. When a group celebrates the deeds of Hamas or seeks to justify them, they go way too far. I will defer to the courts on their right to say it, but giving them a platform or granting them a parade permit is more than required for justice. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tatetopa Posted September 1 #25 Share Posted September 1 2 hours ago, Claira said: Yes IF. It continues to amaze with what many of these protesters have been allowed to get away with. By the way, and correct me if I'm wrong, but I've not seen much in the way of protests there in the US demanding the release of the American hostages held by Hamas. Why is that? Is it because they're viewed more as Jews/Israelis than they are as Americans? I would have expected Americans, more so than Europeans and others, to have caused a huge scene for their release. Not many Americans have fully realized that some of those folks are American citizens. Press coverage on that is just about non-existent. There was not much outrage over the Saudis killing and chopping up a journalist who was an American citizen. He was not European, but a brown-skinned guy with a funny name. You might be correct in your assessment. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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