Raptor Witness Posted August 31 #1 Share Posted August 31 I stumbled upon this video several years ago, and forgot all about it. This guy is like a blinding, Supernova of Truth. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+and-then Posted August 31 #2 Share Posted August 31 Continue lapping it up. Has it ever occurred to you that people, regardless of their faith, still have to live in this world and that despite Trump's failings, he just might politically represent the lesser of two evils? Nah, it's just a rhetorical question. Here's another example from today of what that hate you engage in, is leading to in the real world... You lot should really learn to relax and pace yourselves. If he manages to win AND live to take the office, it could cause you to lose it, mentally. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alchopwn Posted August 31 #3 Share Posted August 31 22 minutes ago, and-then said: Has it ever occurred to you that people, regardless of their faith, still have to live in this world and that despite Trump's failings, he just might politically represent the lesser of two evils? Nah, Trump is too destructive. I don't want to live in the Putinesque dictatorship Trump fancies he is going to create in the USA. As an atheist and a Buddhist, I don't like or trust Christian Nationalism; it's ugly and the sign of worse to come if it holds the whip hand. I regard Christian Nationalism as every bit as foul as militant Islam, and I'd happily go to war against either. I might be a rich white male, but I don't want to strip other people of things that as citizens of a first world nation, they should have available to them. When I look at the hypocrisy of Project 2025, and the ongoing con job that is the Trump/Vecna campaign, I've seen the writing on the wall. We need to save conservative values from this anarcho-totalitarian horror. If that means voting blue, then so be it. 5 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawken Posted August 31 #4 Share Posted August 31 I think if the media reported that Jesus is evil, and Satan is good and reported that everyday like they do Trump. The media would have a lot of people convinced. That's the power of the media. I've also noticed how the media leaves out key info that's positive for Trump to keep their viewers uninformed. List of his accomplishments. Trump.Accomplishments.FINAL.pdf (lc.org) 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acidhead Posted August 31 #5 Share Posted August 31 3 minutes ago, Hawken said: I think if the media reported that Jesus is evil, and Satan is good and reported that everyday like they do Trump. The media would have a lot of people convinced. That's the power of the media. I've also noticed how the media leaves out key info that's positive for Trump to keep their viewers uninformed. List of his accomplishments. Trump.Accomplishments.FINAL.pdf (lc.org) I heard recently that Big-T took and ate the last dinner roll without asking if anybody else wanted it. 😠 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alchopwn Posted August 31 #6 Share Posted August 31 2 minutes ago, Hawken said: I think if the media reported that Jesus is evil, and Satan is good and reported that everyday like they do Trump. Sometimes the media is pretty much correct. Have you forgotten the Jan 6th attempted coup, when rioters wiped their **** on the Capitol building walls and offices. and resulted in multiple deaths? Have you forgotten how Trump's hopeless mismanagement of COVID killed more Americans than all the recent wars we have been in? Have you forgotten Trump saying how attractive he finds his daughter, and how much he wants to date her? Have you forgotten Trump's close personal friendship with Jeffrey Epstein? Now let's take a look at the doc you posted... 6 minutes ago, Hawken said: Trump.Accomplishments.FINAL.pdf (lc.org) Let's start at the bottom with those tax cuts. They went to multimillionaires like me, and billionaires like Trump. To ordinary working stiffs? Not so much. As to his claims, they're all economic. When you get right down to it, Biden has done better, and has more to show for it. MOST IMPORTANTLY What this doc doesn't show is all the policies that Trump introduced, and a breakdown of what they achieved, statistically. You'd be hard pressed to show that Trump achieved a damn thing if you did that. He spent his time treading water in office, occasionally slipping into scandal, and trying to big note himself for doing nothing. This time he fancies he will make himself President for Life, and become a dictator. Project 2025 is a blueprint for an America I want no part of, and it is what Trump will introduce, whether he admits it or not. Trump's an appalling human being with a nightmare vision for the country. 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acidhead Posted August 31 #7 Share Posted August 31 20 minutes ago, Hawken said: The media would have a lot of people convinced. That's the power of the media. I think you found one!!! That was fast. Probably a record! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawken Posted August 31 #8 Share Posted August 31 7 hours ago, Alchopwn said: Sometimes the media is pretty much correct. Have you forgotten the Jan 6th attempted coup, when rioters wiped their **** on the Capitol building walls and offices. and resulted in multiple deaths? Have you forgotten how Trump's hopeless mismanagement of COVID killed more Americans than all the recent wars we have been in? Have you forgotten Trump saying how attractive he finds his daughter, and how much he wants to date her? Have you forgotten Trump's close personal friendship with Jeffrey Epstein? Now let's take a look at the doc you posted... Let's start at the bottom with those tax cuts. They went to multimillionaires like me, and billionaires like Trump. To ordinary working stiffs? Not so much. As to his claims, they're all economic. When you get right down to it, Biden has done better, and has more to show for it. MOST IMPORTANTLY What this doc doesn't show is all the policies that Trump introduced, and a breakdown of what they achieved, statistically. You'd be hard pressed to show that Trump achieved a damn thing if you did that. He spent his time treading water in office, occasionally slipping into scandal, and trying to big note himself for doing nothing. This time he fancies he will make himself President for Life, and become a dictator. Project 2025 is a blueprint for an America I want no part of, and it is what Trump will introduce, whether he admits it or not. Trump's an appalling human being with a nightmare vision for the country. Well, you just keep voting blue up there in Chicago so a lot more illegal migrants can call home, and the street gangs keep ruling the city. Keep voting for mayors like Brandon Johnson who negotiate with gangs to be good boys instead of throwing them in jail. And as for covid, over 99% of people recovered from the virus. But the media only reported the death numbers (1%) to instill fear in the public but failed to report the recoveries. Here are the recoveries/deaths over a 4-year period for the US (2020-2024) United States COVID - Coronavirus Statistics - Worldometer (worldometers.info) 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawken Posted August 31 #9 Share Posted August 31 7 hours ago, acidhead said: I heard recently that Big-T took and ate the last dinner roll without asking if anybody else wanted it. 😠 I remember CNN reported that Trump got 2 scoops of ice cream and everyone else got 1. Orange Man Bad. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Sherapy Posted August 31 #10 Share Posted August 31 (edited) 8 hours ago, Alchopwn said: Sometimes the media is pretty much correct. Have you forgotten the Jan 6th attempted coup, when rioters wiped their **** on the Capitol building walls and offices. and resulted in multiple deaths? Have you forgotten how Trump's hopeless mismanagement of COVID killed more Americans than all the recent wars we have been in? Have you forgotten Trump saying how attractive he finds his daughter, and how much he wants to date her? Have you forgotten Trump's close personal friendship with Jeffrey Epstein? Now let's take a look at the doc you posted... Let's start at the bottom with those tax cuts. They went to multimillionaires like me, and billionaires like Trump. To ordinary working stiffs? Not so much. As to his claims, they're all economic. When you get right down to it, Biden has done better, and has more to show for it. MOST IMPORTANTLY What this doc doesn't show is all the policies that Trump introduced, and a breakdown of what they achieved, statistically. You'd be hard pressed to show that Trump achieved a damn thing if you did that. He spent his time treading water in office, occasionally slipping into scandal, and trying to big note himself for doing nothing. This time he fancies he will make himself President for Life, and become a dictator. Project 2025 is a blueprint for an America I want no part of, and it is what Trump will introduce, whether he admits it or not. Trump's an appalling human being with a nightmare vision for the country. An add too: Trump’s handling of COVID-19 throughout the pandemic was incompetent to say the least. For ex: February 2020, he said that the virus was "a very small number of people who are seriously ill" stating, "It's going to go away. It's going to disappear." By March of 2020, he downplayed the media's role in reporting on the crisis, saying, "The media is trying to play it down. It's a little bit of a hoax. They are trying to scare everybody." He also compared COVID-19 to the flu, Trump said "You know, a lot of people die every year from the flu. But we never turn on the television and say, 'flu deaths,' you know?" It wasn’t until July 2020, he acknowledged the virus's seriousness, stating, "It’s a very serious problem. It’s a bad problem." I worked in health care for two Dr.’s at the time I saw first hand the devastation and lack of support or help from this guy, he literally made everything way worse. This is his skill set he deny’s and lies” as a strategy as opposed to being proactive and effective, solution oriented. He demonstrates incompetence loud and clear. Then there is the very big problem of him being a convicted felon. Who in their right mind would listen to a convicted felon? 😬😰 Edited August 31 by Sherapy 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gromdor Posted August 31 #11 Share Posted August 31 8 hours ago, Hawken said: I think if the media reported that Jesus is evil, and Satan is good and reported that everyday like they do Trump. The media would have a lot of people convinced. That's the power of the media. I've also noticed how the media leaves out key info that's positive for Trump to keep their viewers uninformed. List of his accomplishments. Trump.Accomplishments.FINAL.pdf (lc.org) The media does report Jesus as being evil. We will happily arrest him, his mother Maria, and his father Jose for crossing the border and seperate him from his family. There he can join the other children that have just disappeared from the system. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawken Posted August 31 #12 Share Posted August 31 1 minute ago, Gromdor said: The media does report Jesus as being evil. We will happily arrest him, his mother Maria, and his father Jose for crossing the border and seperate him from his family. There he can join the other children that have just disappeared from the system. Thanks for proving my point about the media. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gromdor Posted August 31 #13 Share Posted August 31 Just now, Hawken said: Thanks for proving my point about the media. Your welcome. The one thing that you have to keep in mind- just because you see it happening doesn't mean you are immune. For every Rachael Maddow there is a Tucker Carlson. Off topic- You don't get your groceries from Kroger's do you? Did you see the testimony from the Kroger's CEO sbout them gouging people on eggs and milk? Kroger Raised Milk and Egg Prices Beyond Inflation Costs, Exec Testifies: Report - Business Insider I remember you complaining about the price of eggs before. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawken Posted August 31 #14 Share Posted August 31 (edited) 18 minutes ago, Gromdor said: Your welcome. The one thing that you have to keep in mind- just because you see it happening doesn't mean you are immune. For every Rachael Maddow there is a Tucker Carlson. Off topic- You don't get your groceries from Kroger's do you? Did you see the testimony from the Kroger's CEO sbout them gouging people on eggs and milk? Kroger Raised Milk and Egg Prices Beyond Inflation Costs, Exec Testifies: Report - Business Insider I remember you complaining about the price of eggs before. Speaking of eggs, they are now $5.15/doz in my local IGA. They were $3.25 for a while. Around a $1.10 before Biden took over. But don't let logic override feelings. Edited August 31 by Hawken 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gromdor Posted August 31 #15 Share Posted August 31 2 minutes ago, Hawken said: Speaking of eggs, they are now $5.15/doz in my local IGA. They were $3.25 for a while. Around a $1.10 before Biden took over. But don't let logic override feelings. Sooo.. Not at Krogers? Kind of sucks that there is court testimony saying how they are gouging the customers. Combine that with the supply side price fixing that happened: US jury awards $17.7 mln to Kraft, other producers in egg price-fixing case | Reuters and I can totally see why the customers are getting gouged. It's interesting that the media has gotten people to blame the jacked up prices on Biden when we have these court cases in the background showing how the prices are because of criminal greed. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawken Posted August 31 #16 Share Posted August 31 1 minute ago, Gromdor said: Sooo.. Not at Krogers? Kind of sucks that there is court testimony saying how they are gouging the customers. Combine that with the supply side price fixing that happened: US jury awards $17.7 mln to Kraft, other producers in egg price-fixing case | Reuters and I can totally see why the customers are getting gouged. It's interesting that the media has gotten people to blame the jacked up prices on Biden when we have these court cases in the background showing how the prices are because of criminal greed. You can bet if Trump was in office. He would get the blame. Just like he got the blame for covid. Even though the virus was created in a lab in China and affected the entire world. Nobody is blaming Xi Jinping for it. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gromdor Posted August 31 #17 Share Posted August 31 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Hawken said: You can bet if Trump was in office. He would get the blame. Just like he got the blame for covid. Even though the virus was created in a lab in China and affected the entire world. Nobody is blaming Xi Jinping for it. Well, duh. Haven't we just established that the media places blame on the politician while the true culprits price fix and price gouge. (at least in this egg case). It's why I look to the truth in court filings rather than the media. Edit to add: Here's a scary thought- We haven't had bad bird flu yet this year here in Iowa. If you are paying $5.15 now, brace youself for what you are going to be charged if that happens. Edited August 31 by Gromdor 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alchopwn Posted August 31 #18 Share Posted August 31 2 hours ago, Hawken said: Well, you just keep voting blue up there in Chicago so a lot more illegal migrants can call home, and the street gangs keep ruling the city. Keep voting for mayors like Brandon Johnson who negotiate with gangs to be good boys instead of throwing them in jail. I'm actually from Massachusetts. Frankly I know plenty of Mexicans, Central Americans and South Americans. I speak Spanish and Portuguese with reasonable fluency. I prefer them to some of the Maga PWTs I have met. After all, illegals are often running from dictatorships and trying to make a dollar, and there isn't anything more American than that. Trying to establish a dictatorship in the USA, now that I take issue with. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawken Posted August 31 #19 Share Posted August 31 2 minutes ago, Alchopwn said: I'm actually from Massachusetts. Frankly I know plenty of Mexicans, Central Americans and South Americans. I speak Spanish and Portuguese with reasonable fluency. I prefer them to some of the Maga PWTs I have met. After all, illegals are often running from dictatorships and trying to make a dollar, and there isn't anything more American than that. Trying to establish a dictatorship in the USA, now that I take issue with. I don't recall Trump trying to make a dictatorship out of the US when he was in office the 1st time. Apparently, you're parroting what the media tells you. Which proves my point in post # 4. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alchopwn Posted August 31 #20 Share Posted August 31 Just now, Hawken said: I don't recall Trump trying to make a dictatorship out of the US when he was in office the 1st time. Yeah, that push for dictatorship is a new thing Trump has made a pretty big deal about in his 2024 campaign. I'm surprised you haven't noticed. Project 2024 is pretty damning. 2 minutes ago, Hawken said: Apparently, you're parroting what the media tells you. Which proves my point in post # 4. Nah, the media is just saying what everyone already knows. If anything the media is too far behind, and often hides the really awful things Trump does, like his Epstein connection and his sexual assault on teenage girls who looked like Ivanka who worked for Epstein. Did you know that Ghislaine Maxwell recruited sex slaves from girls who worked at Mar-a-lago? See? The media never mentions that stuff, do they? Trump=Pedo. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Sherapy Posted August 31 #21 Share Posted August 31 (edited) 54 minutes ago, Hawken said: You can bet if Trump was in office. He would get the blame. Just like he got the blame for covid. Even though the virus was created in a lab in China and affected the entire world. Nobody is blaming Xi Jinping for it. Trump is not to blame for the actual virus, it was his handling of it that caused issues, and he contributed to worsening the situation. For ex: There was a delayed response in addressing the emerging threat, particularly in implementing widespread testing and contact tracing. Trump downplayed the severity of the virus, frequently suggesting it would "disappear" and likening it to the flu, which contributed to a lack of urgency in public health measures. He advanced mixed messaging from the administration creating division and confusion regarding the seriousness of the pandemic and impeding the implementation of appropriate safety protocols. Trump promoted unproven treatments like hydroxychloroquine, in real time, it raised serious concerns among healthcare professionals about patient safety. The administration attempted to influence public health agencies, undermining scientific integrity. His cuts to public health funding prior to the pandemic weakened our nation's preparedness, and the lack of endorsement for wearing masks detracted from public compliance with CDC guidelines. Finally, health officials faced stigma and threats due to their recommendations, coming from trump as he was focused on toxic drama as evidenced by his divisive rhetoric. Trump cannot be trusted to have the competence to respond rationally and effectively to a public health crisis, ever! Edited August 31 by Sherapy 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michelle Posted August 31 #22 Share Posted August 31 29 minutes ago, Alchopwn said: Yeah, that push for dictatorship is a new thing Trump has made a pretty big deal about in his 2024 campaign. I'm surprised you haven't noticed. Project 2024 is pretty damning. Reading up on the Heritage Foundation, where project 2024 came from, might ease your fears. The Heritage Foundation | Encyclopedia MDPI Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gromdor Posted August 31 #23 Share Posted August 31 29 minutes ago, Alchopwn said: Yeah, that push for dictatorship is a new thing Trump has made a pretty big deal about in his 2024 campaign. I'm surprised you haven't noticed. Project 2024 is pretty damning. Nah, the media is just saying what everyone already knows. If anything the media is too far behind, and often hides the really awful things Trump does, like his Epstein connection and his sexual assault on teenage girls who looked like Ivanka who worked for Epstein. Did you know that Ghislaine Maxwell recruited sex slaves from girls who worked at Mar-a-lago? See? The media never mentions that stuff, do they? Trump=Pedo. That recruiting thing from Mar A Lago made me have a creepy thought. He regularly hires cheap immigrant labor for Mar A Lago with the H1 visas Mar-A-Lago Is Looking To Hire 91 Foreign Workers This Year (forbes.com) But when it comes to interacting with his clients (like Epstein) he seems to have hired young teen girls (Pool towel girls/staff masseuse I think was the job if I recall the Epstien stuff correctly). Unsealed documents detail alleged Epstein victim’s recruitment at Mar-a-Lago - POLITICO This doesn't ring any disturbing bells to anyone else? 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Sherapy Posted August 31 #24 Share Posted August 31 5 minutes ago, Gromdor said: That recruiting thing from Mar A Lago made me have a creepy thought. He regularly hires cheap immigrant labor for Mar A Lago with the H1 visas Mar-A-Lago Is Looking To Hire 91 Foreign Workers This Year (forbes.com) But when it comes to interacting with his clients (like Epstein) he seems to have hired young teen girls (Pool towel girls/staff masseuse I think was the job if I recall the Epstien stuff correctly). Unsealed documents detail alleged Epstein victim’s recruitment at Mar-a-Lago - POLITICO This doesn't ring any disturbing bells to anyone else? “I've known Jeff for fifteen years. Terrific guy," Trump is famously quoted as saying of Epstein in an interview for New York magazine in 2002. "He's a lot of fun to be with. It is even said that he likes beautiful women as much as I do, and many of them are on the younger side. No doubt about it — Jeffrey enjoys his social life." 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tatetopa Posted August 31 #25 Share Posted August 31 42 minutes ago, Hawken said: I don't recall Trump trying to make a dictatorship out of the US when he was in office the 1st time. Apparently, you're parroting what the media tells you. Which proves my point in post # 4. How many times have we seen those exact same words before? That is not logic, that is repetition of a talking point. Dude, you are also plugged into your favorite media sources and parroting what they say. They are doing it for clicks. They want the money and power you give them. They are not in it to share truth. Look at Reuters or AP or a news aggregator. You may see things reported that you don't want to see, but at least they don't have talking heads telling you what to think. You are a grown up, you have been around, you served your country in the military I think. You are old enough and smart enough not to be hand fed opinions by any infotainer in it for clicks. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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