the13bats Posted September 2 #51 Share Posted September 2 On 8/31/2024 at 2:09 PM, Gromdor said: Have you seen the latest on this? 'He’s on our side': Video shows Trump cheering on supporter who attacked press at PA rally (msn.com) It's a bit of an "egg on your face" moment. It Seems more maga sport this look than the red hat, 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the13bats Posted September 2 #52 Share Posted September 2 On 8/31/2024 at 2:47 PM, Michelle said: Well, that wasn't a biased source at all was it? Try this one... Man detained after storming media area at Donald Trump's Pennsylvania rally (thehill.com) As trump said very fine people....on both sides. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alchopwn Posted September 2 #53 Share Posted September 2 On 8/31/2024 at 11:57 PM, Hawken said: Well, you just keep voting blue up there in Chicago so a lot more illegal migrants can call home, and the street gangs keep ruling the city. Keep voting for mayors like Brandon Johnson who negotiate with gangs to be good boys instead of throwing them in jail. And as for covid, over 99% of people recovered from the virus. But the media only reported the death numbers (1%) to instill fear in the public but failed to report the recoveries. Here are the recoveries/deaths over a 4-year period for the US (2020-2024) United States COVID - Coronavirus Statistics - Worldometer (worldometers.info) We know exactly what the stats are. Over a million dead Americans on Trump's "watch" (if you can even call it that). That is what is called "a shameful display". 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the13bats Posted September 2 #54 Share Posted September 2 12 minutes ago, Alchopwn said: We know exactly what the stats are. Over a million dead Americans on Trump's "watch" (if you can even call it that). That is what is called "a shameful display". Whats with maga trying to deny trumps self serving, bumbling, incompetent, failure with covid didnt cost lives? Its like saying the holocaust never happened. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Razman Posted September 2 #55 Share Posted September 2 (edited) 'Are You Seriously This Stupid?': Legal Minds Nail Trump After Fox News 'Confession' (msn.com) Trump says he had ‘every right’ to interfere in election (msn.com) Edited September 2 by Razman 1 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lightly Posted September 2 #56 Share Posted September 2 Good grief Donald! Apparently, only you Didn’t know that presidential election INTERFERENCE is an indictable offense. (right?). 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michelle Posted September 2 #57 Share Posted September 2 (edited) 9 hours ago, Alchopwn said: We know exactly what the stats are. Over a million dead Americans on Trump's "watch" (if you can even call it that). That is what is called "a shameful display". Obviously, you don't know what the stats are. While that’s a significant decline in the U.S., as the graphic above shows, the drop in deaths has not been linear. Deaths from COVID-19 spiked in the fall of 2021 due to the delta variant, and deaths spiked again in early 2022 as the omicron variant swept the nation. From the start of the pandemic in early 2020 until Jan. 20, 2021, the day Biden assumed the presidency, there were 424,307 COVID-19 deaths in the U.S. Since then, there have been more than 580,000 COVID-19 deaths. In other words, more COVID-19 deaths have occurred under Biden than under Trump. cont... Biden Claims Too Much Credit for Decline in COVID-19 Deaths - FactCheck.org And Trump handed Biden the vaccine which Biden, Harris and left wing media said they wouldn't get because they didn't trust Trump. Edited September 2 by Michelle 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alchopwn Posted September 2 #58 Share Posted September 2 (edited) 17 minutes ago, Michelle said: Obviously, you don't know what the stats are. If Trump hadn't utterly failed to stop COVID entering the USA, and spreading unchecked for months while the Whitehouse remained paralyzed, your so-called "deaths under Biden" would never have happened. I know the stats, thank you. Edited September 2 by Alchopwn 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michelle Posted September 2 #59 Share Posted September 2 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Alchopwn said: If Trump hadn't utterly failed to stop COVID entering the USA, and spreading unchecked for months while the Whitehouse remained paralyzed, your so-called "deaths under Biden" would never have happened. I know the stats, thank you. Did you even read the link. It goes into great detail. There were two different new variances under Biden's watch. I guess Biden let those in. When Trump tried to stop people from coming into the US during Covid the Democrats had a fit and called him a racist. They bear just as much responsibility. Edited September 2 by Michelle 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
preacherman76 Posted September 2 #60 Share Posted September 2 10 hours ago, Alchopwn said: We know exactly what the stats are. Over a million dead Americans on Trump's "watch" (if you can even call it that). That is what is called "a shameful display". What exactly did you want him to do? Stop Cuomo from sending covid patients to nursing homes? Or make Democrat mayors stop mass protests of thousands gathering together? Or for the pro vaccine types. Should he have put Harris in jail for warning people not to take the Trump vaccine. Same vaccine she would later take credit for? What exactly should he have done to stop the air borne highly contagious virus, that didn’t care about 6 feet of separation or masks? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buzz_Light_Year Posted September 2 #61 Share Posted September 2 5 minutes ago, Michelle said: Did you even read the link. It goes into great detail. There were two different new variances under Biden's watch. When Trump tried to stop people from coming into the US during Covid the Democrats had a fit and called him a racist. They bear just as much responsibility. Not to mention the fact Faci and the WHO along with prominent Democrats downplayed the virus in the beginning. Pelosi not so famous China Town trip was a real embarrassment. Yep Trump was labeled a dictator, racist and whatever Democrat catch phrases that were buzzing around at the time. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michelle Posted September 2 #62 Share Posted September 2 5 minutes ago, Buzz_Light_Year said: Pelosi not so famous China Town trip was a real embarrassment. She was even on the news telling people not to be afraid and to come down for the celebration that was going on. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gromdor Posted September 2 #63 Share Posted September 2 On 9/1/2024 at 11:54 AM, Michelle said: So, the guy and his motives were not the point of the entire article? They called him a Trump supporter with no evidence. As far as Trump calling the media enemies of the people, they are. They constantly misconstrue what is said and purposely cause divisiveness among the people. This comment was not in the latter article or any other I've read... "That's alright. That's OK. No, he's on our side," Trump said as the man attacking journalists was taken down, before offering a quip and a chuckle. "We get a little itchy, don't we? No, no, he's on our side." They called it attacking journalists when he was yelling and cursing at Trump. If you can't see the difference in the way these articles are approached it says a lot about your critical thinking skills. Acid can help you find the video. Once you see it perhaps you will have a better understanding of what I am talking about. To rehash my point before all that: 1) Andthen was going off on how disgusting people who support/act like the guy in Pennsylvania 2) Trump as he is trashing the media and as it happened says, "It's okay, He's one of ours." 3) I post a link so Andthen can realize he has a bit of egg on his face. 4) Anything else is not what I am talking about and irrelevant to my point. 3 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenemet Posted September 2 #64 Share Posted September 2 1 hour ago, Michelle said: Obviously, you don't know what the stats are. While that’s a significant decline in the U.S., as the graphic above shows, the drop in deaths has not been linear. Deaths from COVID-19 spiked in the fall of 2021 due to the delta variant, and deaths spiked again in early 2022 as the omicron variant swept the nation. From the start of the pandemic in early 2020 until Jan. 20, 2021, the day Biden assumed the presidency, there were 424,307 COVID-19 deaths in the U.S. Since then, there have been more than 580,000 COVID-19 deaths. In other words, more COVID-19 deaths have occurred under Biden than under Trump. cont... Biden Claims Too Much Credit for Decline in COVID-19 Deaths - FactCheck.org And Trump handed Biden the vaccine which Biden, Harris and left wing media said they wouldn't get because they didn't trust Trump. You're comparing a one year total with a nearly 4 year total. Let's compare it year by year, eh? Biden starts his administration when Covid is peaking. Now... Biden's walking up to the podium to be sworn in did not cause invisible UFOs to carpet-bomb the US with Covid virus two months previously (but people getting together during the holidays in spite of warnings to be careful DID happen). Now compare Trump's peak death count with Biden's. Biden's is lower when you take it year by year. If Trump had stayed in office (and kept his policies), you'd see higher numbers. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michelle Posted September 2 #65 Share Posted September 2 18 minutes ago, Kenemet said: You're comparing a one year total with a nearly 4 year total. I'm not comparing anything. I linked to one of the most well-respected fact checking organizations in the world. They go into great detail. If you don't understand it that isn't on me. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the13bats Posted September 2 #66 Share Posted September 2 (edited) 2 hours ago, Michelle said: Obviously, you don't know what the stats are. While that’s a significant decline in the U.S., as the graphic above shows, the drop in deaths has not been linear. Deaths from COVID-19 spiked in the fall of 2021 due to the delta variant, and deaths spiked again in early 2022 as the omicron variant swept the nation. From the start of the pandemic in early 2020 until Jan. 20, 2021, the day Biden assumed the presidency, there were 424,307 COVID-19 deaths in the U.S. Since then, there have been more than 580,000 COVID-19 deaths. In other words, more COVID-19 deaths have occurred under Biden than under Trump. cont... Biden Claims Too Much Credit for Decline in COVID-19 Deaths - FactCheck.org And Trump handed Biden the vaccine which Biden, Harris and left wing media said they wouldn't get because they didn't trust Trump. Trumps incompetent bumbling self serving epic covid response failure and destruction of safety precautions cost extra lives lots of extra lives no amount of orange paint maga throw on the wall will change the fact and when they try so hard they just look ridiculous. Edited September 2 by the13bats 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the13bats Posted September 2 #67 Share Posted September 2 27 minutes ago, Kenemet said: You're comparing a one year total with a nearly 4 year total. Let's compare it year by year, eh? Biden starts his administration when Covid is peaking. Now... Biden's walking up to the podium to be sworn in did not cause invisible UFOs to carpet-bomb the US with Covid virus two months previously (but people getting together during the holidays in spite of warnings to be careful DID happen). Now compare Trump's peak death count with Biden's. Biden's is lower when you take it year by year. If Trump had stayed in office (and kept his policies), you'd see higher numbers. Trump cost lives plain and simple anyone who says otherwise is either ignorant intentionally lying or both. 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the13bats Posted September 2 #68 Share Posted September 2 1 hour ago, Michelle said: She was even on the news telling people not to be afraid and to come down for the celebration that was going on. Trumps rose garden party during covid was a humiliating life costing incompetent bumbling failure 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gromdor Posted September 2 #69 Share Posted September 2 1 minute ago, the13bats said: Trump cost lives plain and simple anyone who says otherwise is either ignorant intentionally lying or both. It's also a statistically proven fact that Republicans/Conservatives suffered more deaths because of it:Excess Death Rates for Republicans and Democrats During the COVID-19 Pandemic | NBER 3 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenemet Posted September 2 #70 Share Posted September 2 13 minutes ago, Michelle said: I'm not comparing anything. I linked to one of the most well-respected fact checking organizations in the world. They go into great detail. If you don't understand it that isn't on me. They do go into detail. They say, for example: President Joe Biden has repeatedly boasted that his “approach has brought down COVID deaths by 90%.” That figure is accurate, but experts say the dip is largely attributable to a number of factors outside the president’s control. Which is what the data I posted shows. In addition, your source says this: For starters, coronavirus deaths didn’t start to emerge in large numbers until April 2020, so this is a comparison of nearly nine months under Trump with 17 months under Biden. As we have written,Trump regularly downplayed the risks of COVID-19, and former White House coronavirus response coordinator Deborah Birx has said better early mitigation efforts could have “decreased substantially” the number of deaths. ...and this With few Americans vaccinated, the seven-day average of deaths reached its peak of the pandemic at 3,425 deaths on Jan. 13, 2021, seven days before Biden was inaugurated. The big vaccine rollout under Biden helped nip the pandemic in mid-stride, thankfully. So... as I said and as your source noted, your number needs context. The diagram I posted previously shows the same thing your linked article says... and also notes that you're trying to compare 7 months under Trump with 3 years under Biden. 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lightly Posted September 5 #71 Share Posted September 5 (edited) On 9/2/2024 at 9:29 AM, preacherman76 said: What exactly should he have done to stop the air borne highly contagious virus, that didn’t care about 6 feet of separation or masks? Maybe ,instead of ignoring what for him was becoming an extremely inconvenient REALITY, he should have listened to the advice of infectious disease experts..and helped stop the spread? Why do you suppose drs. & nurses have been wearing masks, when appropriate, for a few centuries now? Let me help. It’s because they have learned and proven through experience that masks help. Yes, it’s an airborne virus…that doesn’t mean it can fly. It means it can be carried through the air In the water droplets of BREATH..and therefore can be filtered out , or at least Decreased, by masks. Distancing should need no further explanation. But..let me help, Distance & GRAVITY decrease the amount of virus carrying airborne Droplets between one person and another. COUGH!* Trump always chooses a version of reality which best serves his interest..and has no interest in anything other than that. Edited September 5 by lightly 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Sherapy Posted September 6 #72 Share Posted September 6 (edited) On 9/2/2024 at 11:20 AM, Kenemet said: They do go into detail. They say, for example: President Joe Biden has repeatedly boasted that his “approach has brought down COVID deaths by 90%.” That figure is accurate, but experts say the dip is largely attributable to a number of factors outside the president’s control. Which is what the data I posted shows. In addition, your source says this: For starters, coronavirus deaths didn’t start to emerge in large numbers until April 2020, so this is a comparison of nearly nine months under Trump with 17 months under Biden. As we have written,Trump regularly downplayed the risks of COVID-19, and former White House coronavirus response coordinator Deborah Birx has said better early mitigation efforts could have “decreased substantially” the number of deaths. ...and this With few Americans vaccinated, the seven-day average of deaths reached its peak of the pandemic at 3,425 deaths on Jan. 13, 2021, seven days before Biden was inaugurated. The big vaccine rollout under Biden helped nip the pandemic in mid-stride, thankfully. So... as I said and as your source noted, your number needs context. The diagram I posted previously shows the same thing your linked article says... and also notes that you're trying to compare 7 months under Trump with 3 years under Biden. Kenemet, thank you for your posts. They are credible. Edited September 6 by Sherapy 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
preacherman76 Posted September 7 #73 Share Posted September 7 Every person I know who masked and distanced themselves got it anyway. Usually several times. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acidhead Posted September 7 #74 Share Posted September 7 8 hours ago, preacherman76 said: Every person I know who masked and distanced themselves got it anyway. Usually several times. They all also have at least a 10 year supply of toilet paper stashed away at home. 🤣 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Portre Posted September 8 #75 Share Posted September 8 The Amazing Truth 😆 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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