US CENTCOM says it conducted raid in Iraq, 15 Islamic State operatives dead

[Claira]

US Central Command (CENTCOM) said on Friday its forces conducted a partnered raid with the Iraqi Security Forces in western Iraq in the early hours of Aug. 29, resulting in the deaths of 15 Islamic State (ISIS) operatives.

"The ISIS element was armed with numerous weapons, grenades, and explosive "suicide" belts," CENTCOM said. It also added that there were no indication of civilian casualties in the raid. Seven American troops were wounded in the joint raid, the Associated Press reported later citing the US military.

https://www.jpost.com/middle-east/article-817133

[CrimsonKing]

https://nypost.com/2024/09/03/us-news/us-syria-capture-isis-leader-khaled-amed-al-dandal/

[Setton]

43 minutes ago, CrimsonKing said:

https://nypost.com/2024/09/03/us-news/us-syria-capture-isis-leader-khaled-amed-al-dandal/

SDF - "Syrian forces" 🤦‍♂️ 

 

[CrimsonKing]

4 minutes ago, Setton said:

SDF - "Syrian forces" 🤦‍♂️ 

 

No need to be a pedantic old ass...

It involves isis, didn't see a need for a whole new thread... facepalm indeed 

[Setton]

31 minutes ago, CrimsonKing said:

No need to be a pedantic old ass...

It involves isis, didn't see a need for a whole new thread... facepalm indeed 

I think you've totally missed the point. It's not an Iraq/Syria thing.

The SDF are the Kurdish forces, not Syrian.

So no need to be a defensive old ass 😉

[CrimsonKing]

Just now, Setton said:

I think you've totally missed the point. It's not an Iraq/Syria thing.

The SDF are the Kurdish forces, not Syrian.

So no need to be a defensive old ass 😉

I'm looking at it as an isis issue...

You really aren't "teaching" anyone anything,just running around trolling the ME section.

Maybe some metamucil could help get out whatever is stuck up your backside loose for you  

 

[Setton]

1 hour ago, CrimsonKing said:

I'm looking at it as an isis issue...

You really aren't "teaching" anyone anything 

Well I doubt the "journalist" from the New York Post is reading this so, no.

And I'm sure you yourself already knew the SDF are Kurdish right? Given you like to be such an expert on the middle east.

[CrimsonKing]

I add a link to a story about Isis in a thread already involving isis..

You start carrying on about Kurds.

Do you not see how you derail things around here,or is it actually deliberate I wonder.

Eta

I get that the person writing the story got the descriptor wrong,but it doesn't change the fact that the story is about battling a resurgent ISIS...

Feel better?

Edited September 3 by CrimsonKing

[DarkHunter]

4 hours ago, Setton said:

The SDF are the Kurdish forces, not Syrian.

The only problem with that is they aren't Kurdish forces.

The SDF is Kurdish lead but they are primarily made up of Kurdish, Arab, and Assyrian but also have Armenians, Turkmen, and Chechens.  You claiming the SDF is Kurdish is just factually wrong and given their mixed nature referring to them as Syrian, which they are nationality wise is the correct designation.

Edited September 3 by DarkHunter

[CrimsonKing]

3 minutes ago, DarkHunter said:

The only problem with that is they aren't Kurdish forces.

The SDF is Kurdish lead but they are primarily made up of Kurdish, Arab, and Assyrian but also have Armenians, Turkmen, and Chechens.  You claiming the SDF I'd Kurdish is just factually wrong and given their mixed nature referring to them as Syrian, which they are nationality wise is the correct designation.

I knew they weren't Assad's troops,which one may at first if reading WAY to far into a little nitpicking part of the story...I never knew they were that much of a mixture though.

Thanks for the knowledge 

[Claira]

5 hours ago, CrimsonKing said:

https://nypost.com/2024/09/03/us-news/us-syria-capture-isis-leader-khaled-amed-al-dandal/

The number of ISIS detainees held in Syrian detention centres is higher than I expected. It is indeed a small army. No wonder ISIS is so eager to free  as many of them as possible. News that ISIS is again on the rise is worrisome and I can well imagine the level of anxiety now that the number of its attacks in Syria and Iraq are on track to double those of 2023.

[DarkHunter]

1 hour ago, CrimsonKing said:

I knew they weren't Assad's troops,which one may at first if reading WAY to far into a little nitpicking part of the story...I never knew they were that much of a mixture though.

Thanks for the knowledge 

The Syrian Civil war is far more diverse then what people think unless they start to look into it.  Syria has a surprisingly high amount of ethnic and religious groups along with a lot of tribes.  At the start of the civil war there was hundreds of various rebel groups who spent as much time fighting each other as they did Assad.

Currently the main factions are

Assad with the Syrian Arab Army which is rather self explanatory.

The SDF (Syrian Democratic Force) who is a coalition of various ethnic groups and tribes, allied with America and will do operations with America but not directly supported by America.

The NSA (New Syrian Army) who is a mix of rebel groups and Syrian Arab Army defectors and is the faction that America supports and trains.  This group has gone through various renames and frequently has intense infighting over leadership, largely between the rebel groups and the Syrian Arab Army defectors.

The SNA (Syrian National Army, previously the Free Syrian Army, FSA) is the group backed by Turkey.  Made up of various rebel groups the SNA works so heavily with the Turkish military that it is more or less a defacto arm of the Turkish military.  

Lastly there is ISIS which is also self explanatory.

Every main faction is made up of various ethnic and religious sects with various alliances and agreements between the main factions, such as how America and the SDF will work together to combat ISIS but America doesn't get involved in fights between the SDF and the Syrian Arab Army or the SDF and SNA, which I'm not completely sure if those two really fight that much if at all.

[CrimsonKing]

58 minutes ago, DarkHunter said:

The Syrian Civil war is far more diverse then what people think unless they start to look into it.  Syria has a surprisingly high amount of ethnic and religious groups along with a lot of tribes.  At the start of the civil war there was hundreds of various rebel groups who spent as much time fighting each other as they did Assad.

Currently the main factions are

Assad with the Syrian Arab Army which is rather self explanatory.

The SDF (Syrian Democratic Force) who is a coalition of various ethnic groups and tribes, allied with America and will do operations with America but not directly supported by America.

The NSA (New Syrian Army) who is a mix of rebel groups and Syrian Arab Army defectors and is the faction that America supports and trains.  This group has gone through various renames and frequently has intense infighting over leadership, largely between the rebel groups and the Syrian Arab Army defectors.

The SNA (Syrian National Army, previously the Free Syrian Army, FSA) is the group backed by Turkey.  Made up of various rebel groups the SNA works so heavily with the Turkish military that it is more or less a defacto arm of the Turkish military.  

Lastly there is ISIS which is also self explanatory.

Every main faction is made up of various ethnic and religious sects with various alliances and agreements between the main factions, such as how America and the SDF will work together to combat ISIS but America doesn't get involved in fights between the SDF and the Syrian Arab Army or the SDF and SNA, which I'm not completely sure if those two really fight that much if at all.

Thanks for the breakdown man,I didn't know there were that many.

[DarkHunter]

7 minutes ago, CrimsonKing said:

Thanks for the breakdown man,I didn't know there were that many.

That was just a brief overview of the main factions, within the SDF, NSA, and SNA there are multiple subtractions within each with various degrees of autonomy and frequently radically different goals and objectives.

A good example of how complicated things are is with the NSA. In September of 2022 the overall commander was dismissed and replaced with a new one.  The problem was that the previous commander was a leader of a decently powerful faction and when he was dismissed and replaced that faction rejected the new leadership and took over half of their main military base.  This then lead to a siege between this faction and the main force backed up by American forces.  Eventually the faction who took over half the base submitted to the new leadership.  

The whole Syrian Civil war is just a massive and complicated mess.

[CrimsonKing]

6 minutes ago, DarkHunter said:

That was just a brief overview of the main factions, within the SDF, NSA, and SNA there are multiple subtractions within each with various degrees of autonomy and frequently radically different goals and objectives.

A good example of how complicated things are is with the NSA. In September of 2022 the overall commander was dismissed and replaced with a new one.  The problem was that the previous commander was a leader of a decently powerful faction and when he was dismissed and replaced that faction rejected the new leadership and took over half of their main military base.  This then lead to a siege between this faction and the main force backed up by American forces.  Eventually the faction who took over half the base submitted to the new leadership.  

The whole Syrian Civil war is just a massive and complicated mess.

Sounds like a gang turf war in a big city...groups everywhere and everyone's always eyeing the top spot.

No one trusts anyone, even their own leaders.

I agree, nevertheless thanks for the information...I would try looking more into it,but sounds like in 3 months time,things could get even more complicated,if 3 months.

Edited September 4 by CrimsonKing

[Setton]

14 hours ago, DarkHunter said:

The only problem with that is they aren't Kurdish forces.

The SDF is Kurdish lead but they are primarily made up of Kurdish, Arab, and Assyrian but also have Armenians, Turkmen, and Chechens.  You claiming the SDF is Kurdish is just factually wrong and given their mixed nature referring to them as Syrian, which they are nationality wise is the correct designation.

Right, you tell the SDF they're Syrian and see how that goes down 😆 

Calling them "Syrian forces" implies they are Assad's forces, which is misleading.

[Claira]

31 minutes ago, Setton said:

Calling them "Syrian forces" implies they are Assad's forces, which is misleading.

I agree, but calling them Kurdish forces is also misleading as the SDF has been a multi-ethnic, Arab-majority force for many years now.

[Claira]

Four Islamic State group leaders were killed in a joint US-Iraqi raid in western Iraq last month, including the head of the jihadist organization’s operations in the country, CENTCOM says.

“This operation targeted ISIS leaders and served to disrupt and degrade ISIS’ ability to plan, organize, and conduct attacks against Iraqi civilians,” CENTCOM says in a statement on X.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/centcom-says-4-islamic-state-leaders-recently-killed-in-joint-us-iraqi-raid/