joseph1 Posted August 31 #1 Share Posted August 31 The woman's name is supposedly Lana. Her youtube channel is named Truth and Transparency. Could you look at her very first live videos and her current videos to see if she is the same person? Also, can someone look at this early youtube video of her and listen for her voice to change after she drinks from the water bottle at around the three minute mark? This is the video 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joseph1 Posted August 31 Author #2 Share Posted August 31 This is a theory. In Idaho, a drug dealer is charged with murder for a drug overdose death. The deaths of Hannah Cleere and Hudson Lindow were both illegal recreational drug overdose deaths and at least two of the Idaho 4 were the ones that had given or sold the illegal drugs to Cleere and Lindow. Hannah Cleere lived in the same dorm as Maddie Mogen and after Cleere's death both Mogen and Kaylee Goncalves moved out of the dorm and into 1122. After Hudson Lindow's death, both Ethan Chapin and Xana Kernodle moved out of where they lived and into 1122. The fathers of Kernodle and Goncalves served in the US military and were probably considered high asset by the US military, and this is why they and their kids get the special treatment of having their deaths staged by the FBI so that their kids can avoid a drug overdose death murder charge in Idaho. All of the weirdness of behavior in this case is caused by people lying to cover up that the Idaho 4 deaths were staged by the FBI. Kohberger is an FBI agent. The reason why he acts the way he does in court is because he is just doing his job as an FBI agent. All of the rumors of this case were started by the FBI to help cause confusion. On YouTube, there are many undercover FBI agents and government paid psychopaths who have youtube channels that cover the Idaho 4 case to help cause the american public to not find out the truth of the Idaho 4 case. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joseph1 Posted August 31 Author #3 Share Posted August 31 (edited) Is Sigma Chai an undercover FBI agent? He used to have a youtube channel called Getaclue. His original youtube channel was started Nov 8, 2022 which is about 5 days before the supposed idaho murders took place. Edited August 31 by joseph1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+ouija ouija Posted August 31 #4 Share Posted August 31 First of all, welcome to UM, Joseph . Although I have been very interested in The Idaho Four case, I'm not sure I want to watch several videos of this woman for . . . . what? Can you explain why you want us to do this? If you think she has changed in some way, could it be explained by plastic surgery/Botox? 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joseph1 Posted August 31 Author #5 Share Posted August 31 2 minutes ago, ouija ouija said: First of all, welcome to UM, Joseph . Although I have been very interested in The Idaho Four case, I'm not sure I want to watch several videos of this woman for . . . . what? Can you explain why you want us to do this? If you think she has changed in some way, could it be explained by plastic surgery/Botox? Just watch her very first live youtube video(which is three years ago) then watch her most recent live youtube video and compare her looks. And also watch the embedded video for when her voice changes after she drinks water at the three minute mark of that video. Comparison of old and new videos from truth and transparency. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+ouija ouija Posted August 31 #6 Share Posted August 31 Sorry, but I can't watch over 3hrs of this extremely irritating woman. Maybe another member can. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joseph1 Posted August 31 Author #7 Share Posted August 31 Are Thought Riot Podcast undercover FBI agents? They started their youtube channel on Nov. 8, 2022 which is 5 days before the supposed Idaho 4 murders happened. Their channel mostly covered the Idaho 4 case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joseph1 Posted August 31 Author #8 Share Posted August 31 4 minutes ago, ouija ouija said: Sorry, but I can't watch over 3hrs of this extremely irritating woman. Maybe another member can. You don't have to watch the entire thing. Do you know who owns this website? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saru Posted August 31 #9 Share Posted August 31 @joseph1 - please avoid starting multiple threads about the same topic - I've merged everything about this together into one thread. Thank you. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joseph1 Posted August 31 Author #10 Share Posted August 31 1 hour ago, Saru said: @joseph1 - please avoid starting multiple threads about the same topic - I've merged everything about this together into one thread. Thank you. If someone tells you to delete my "FBI staged the deaths of Idaho 4 for murder charge avoidance reasons" on this forum would you tell me? On reddit, people who are probably FBI agents and other FEDs control all of the subreddits about the Idaho 4 and make it so no person can speculate towards the truth of what happened in the Idaho 4 case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rlyeh Posted August 31 #11 Share Posted August 31 10 minutes ago, joseph1 said: On reddit, people who are probably FBI agents and other FEDs control all of the subreddits about the Idaho 4 and make it so no person can speculate towards the truth of what happened in the Idaho 4 case. Then make your own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saru Posted August 31 #12 Share Posted August 31 32 minutes ago, joseph1 said: If someone tells you to delete my "FBI staged the deaths of Idaho 4 for murder charge avoidance reasons" on this forum would you tell me? In over 23 years, I have never been asked to remove content from this forum by a government agency - I don't think the FBI cares about this at all. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glorybebe Posted August 31 #13 Share Posted August 31 The issue is that anyone can throw any accusation out on the internet. Everyone wants their 15 mins of fame on YouTube. Just because it is posted, doesn't mean it is true. Just because someone SAYS they are FBI, doesn't mean it is true. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joseph1 Posted August 31 Author #14 Share Posted August 31 1 hour ago, glorybebe said: The issue is that anyone can throw any accusation out on the internet. Everyone wants their 15 mins of fame on YouTube. Just because it is posted, doesn't mean it is true. Just because someone SAYS they are FBI, doesn't mean it is true. How many times have you heard on the internet that the FBI staged the deaths of the Idaho 4 so that the Idaho 4 could avoid murder charges for drug overdose deaths? If you did read that on the internet, can you link to the website and specific place on that website that says that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glorybebe Posted August 31 #15 Share Posted August 31 (edited) 1 hour ago, joseph1 said: How many times have you heard on the internet that the FBI staged the deaths of the Idaho 4 so that the Idaho 4 could avoid murder charges for drug overdose deaths? If you did read that on the internet, can you link to the website and specific place on that website that says that? I have never read anywhere that the FBI staged it. That is what i was meaning, people come up with these theories and then try to prove them, there have been instances where these "investigators" have caused major harassment of innocent people to prove they are right Edited August 31 by glorybebe 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+susieice Posted August 31 #16 Share Posted August 31 (edited) The only time I've seen the FBI was involved with Kohberger was when they staked out and raided his dad's house and arrested him, which is about 15 miles from where I live. I'm sure they assisted Idaho LE also. 40 minutes ago, glorybebe said: I have never read anywhere that the FBI staged it. That is what i was meaning, people come up with these theories and then try to prove them, there have been instances where these "investigators" have caused major harassment of innocent people to prove they are right So true!!! A lot of "internet detectives" came up with crazy theories and accusations. One has a lawsuit filed against her by a University of Idaho professor because she accused her of the murders and knowing the students, which she didn't. She never even taught any of them in class. But this nitwit's tarot cards so. Not to even mention that no drugs were found in the students' house or the autopsies. Edited August 31 by susieice 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glorybebe Posted August 31 #17 Share Posted August 31 (edited) 10 minutes ago, susieice said: The only time I've seen the FBI was involved with Kohberger was when they staked out and raided his dad's house and arrested him, which is about 15 miles from where I live. I'm sure they assisted Idaho LE also. So true!!! A lot of "internet detectives" came up with crazy theories and accusations. One has a lawsuit filed against her by a University of Idaho professor because she accused her of the murders and knowing the students, which she didn't. She never even taught any of them in class. But this nitwit's tarot cards so. Not to even mention that no drugs were found in the students' house or the autopsies. That is the one I was thinking about. Pretty scary, and getting her followers to attack the poor lady Edited August 31 by glorybebe 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+susieice Posted August 31 #18 Share Posted August 31 The internet had everyone from the food truck driver to a guy who was just at the food truck at the same time to the uber driver that dropped Kaylee and Maddie off at the house tried and convicted. If I remember there was a student who had to leave school and go home for a while because of the backlash he was taking. It's disgusting that people do this and worse, there are media talkers that encourage the behavior. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TashaMarie Posted September 20 #19 Share Posted September 20 On 8/31/2024 at 2:23 PM, joseph1 said: This is a theory. In Idaho, a drug dealer is charged with murder for a drug overdose death. The deaths of Hannah Cleere and Hudson Lindow were both illegal recreational drug overdose deaths and at least two of the Idaho 4 were the ones that had given or sold the illegal drugs to Cleere and Lindow. Hannah Cleere lived in the same dorm as Maddie Mogen and after Cleere's death both Mogen and Kaylee Goncalves moved out of the dorm and into 1122. After Hudson Lindow's death, both Ethan Chapin and Xana Kernodle moved out of where they lived and into 1122. The fathers of Kernodle and Goncalves served in the US military and were probably considered high asset by the US military, and this is why they and their kids get the special treatment of having their deaths staged by the FBI so that their kids can avoid a drug overdose death murder charge in Idaho. All of the weirdness of behavior in this case is caused by people lying to cover up that the Idaho 4 deaths were staged by the FBI. Kohberger is an FBI agent. The reason why he acts the way he does in court is because he is just doing his job as an FBI agent. All of the rumors of this case were started by the FBI to help cause confusion. On YouTube, there are many undercover FBI agents and government paid psychopaths who have youtube channels that cover the Idaho 4 case to help cause the american public to not find out the truth of the Idaho 4 case. This is ridiculous. Four young people were brutally murdered, and now others are using their deaths to seek attention and notoriety. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HollyDolly Posted September 24 #20 Share Posted September 24 I have to agree, and its so wrong. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scholar4Truth Posted Monday at 07:23 PM #21 Share Posted Monday at 07:23 PM On 8/31/2024 at 2:44 PM, glorybebe said: I have never read anywhere that the FBI staged it. That is what i was meaning, people come up with these theories and then try to prove them, there have been instances where these "investigators" have caused major harassment of innocent people to prove they are right Sadly, the True Crime community is full of these types of people. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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