+Desertrat56 Posted September 5 #1 Share Posted September 5 @Piney 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Devil Posted September 5 #2 Share Posted September 5 21 minutes ago, Desertrat56 said: @Piney why is dangerous? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hazzard Posted September 5 #3 Share Posted September 5 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Green Devil said: why is dangerous? https://theconversation.com/belief-in-alien-visits-to-earth-is-spiralling-out-of-control-heres-why-thats-so-dangerous-237789 "It is increasingly clear that belief in alien visitation is no longer just a fun speculation, but something that has real and damaging consequences." Edited September 5 by Hazzard 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrsGently Posted September 5 #4 Share Posted September 5 It's the same old same old from people who can't handle change: Did you know that those video games turn people violent? And rock music makes you a Satanist. Everybody who plays D&D is a witchican. and so on and so on We already had the news bot thing and if it's also because it increases distrust in government: no. That was before believe in aliens was this far spread. People who feel their world view is threatened mix up causation and correlation. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hazzard Posted September 5 #5 Share Posted September 5 (edited) 54 minutes ago, MrsGently said: It's the same old same old from people who can't handle change: Did you know that those video games turn people violent? And rock music makes you a Satanist. Everybody who plays D&D is a witchican. and so on and so on We already had the news bot thing and if it's also because it increases distrust in government: no. That was before believe in aliens was this far spread. People who feel their world view is threatened mix up causation and correlation. Its more an American thing where UFOs and belief in alien visitation has become a cultural phenomenon. The rest of the world is laughing their asses off at the circus you guys have over there. Edited September 5 by Hazzard 4 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrsGently Posted September 5 #6 Share Posted September 5 3 minutes ago, Hazzard said: It more an American thing where UFOs and belief in alien visitation has become a cultural phenomenon. The rest of the world is laughing their asses off at the circus you guys have over there. Oh Hazzard. Hazzard. Hazzard. Ts ts ts. You're prime example of the old world having a hard time with change. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cormac mac airt Posted September 5 #7 Share Posted September 5 7 minutes ago, Hazzard said: It more an American thing where UFOs and belief in alien visitation has become a cultural phenomenon. The rest of the world is laughing their asses off at the circus you guys have over there. Not all of us have gone around the bend, just those like Sky who like to pretend they’re “in the know”, yet couldn’t be more clueless if they tried. cormac 2 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+OverSword Posted September 5 #8 Share Posted September 5 (edited) 1 hour ago, Green Devil said: why is dangerous? Because it does harm to indigenous oral sky traditions or some such bull crap Quote The modern alien visitation narrative has not, after all, emerged out of indigenous communities. Quite the opposite. It emerged in part as a way for conspiracy-minded thinkers in a Europe torn apart by racism to “explain” how complex urban civilisations in places like South America could have existed prior to European settlement. So this article was written by a snowflake hater of Euro-things. Edited September 5 by OverSword 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zebra3 Posted September 5 #9 Share Posted September 5 LOL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hazzard Posted September 5 #10 Share Posted September 5 1 hour ago, MrsGently said: Oh Hazzard. Hazzard. Hazzard. Ts ts ts. You're prime example of the old world having a hard time with change. Im willing to change my mind on pretty much everything... as soon as I get some solid scientific evidence. Have you seen any? 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trelane Posted September 5 #11 Share Posted September 5 2 hours ago, Green Devil said: why is dangerous? Why is not? Why for aliens must be here? 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trelane Posted September 5 #12 Share Posted September 5 1 hour ago, OverSword said: Because it does harm to indigenous oral sky traditions or some such bull crap So this article was written by a snowflake hater of Euro-things. Hmmm, seems you have an ax to grind. 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+OverSword Posted September 5 #13 Share Posted September 5 1 minute ago, Trelane said: Hmmm, seems you have an ax to grind. I'm not the one accusing believers in alien visitations of undermining indigenous sky traditions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrsGently Posted September 5 #14 Share Posted September 5 18 minutes ago, Hazzard said: Im willing to change my mind on pretty much everything... as soon as I get some solid scientific evidence. Have you seen any? What would you consider "scientific" in this context? And evidence for what exactly? ...lol also: behind your back we all talk about how open minded Hazzard is... (no) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trelane Posted September 5 #15 Share Posted September 5 11 minutes ago, OverSword said: I'm not the one accusing believers in alien visitations of undermining indigenous sky traditions Do you take exception to indigenous people retaining spiritual elements of their culture? Do you believe that cultural appropriation to further one's own beliefs or narratives is acceptable? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+OverSword Posted September 5 #16 Share Posted September 5 1 minute ago, Trelane said: Do you take exception to indigenous people retaining spiritual elements of their culture? Nope. 1 minute ago, Trelane said: Do you believe that cultural appropriation to further one's own beliefs or narratives is acceptable? I don't believe in cultural appropriation in the inherently criminal sense that I feel you are implying. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hazzard Posted September 5 #17 Share Posted September 5 13 minutes ago, MrsGently said: What would you consider "scientific" in this context? A piece of their craft, or one of their occupants would do just fine. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+OverSword Posted September 5 #18 Share Posted September 5 1 minute ago, Hazzard said: A piece of their craft, or one of their occupants would do just fine. The fact is all UAP's or UFO's have been seen in our atmosphere so there is no reason to believe the origin is a different planet than Earth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrsGently Posted September 5 #19 Share Posted September 5 1 minute ago, Hazzard said: A piece of their craft, or one of their occupants would do just fine. I see. That is very specific. What colour does your alien body have to have to be scientifically alien enough for you? These might not be crafts. Their bodies might like in some old dragon legends instantly decay through acid release or sthg, or be some truly alien biology like a silicon based microbes colony. What then Mr. Hazzard? What if it is holographic probes? Just no way no Jose no craft no body Hazzard says tu no vives 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cormac mac airt Posted September 5 #20 Share Posted September 5 3 minutes ago, MrsGently said: I see. That is very specific. What colour does your alien body have to have to be scientifically alien enough for you? Color is irrelevant. Genetics can determine whether or not it’s terrestrial. cormac 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrsGently Posted September 5 #21 Share Posted September 5 8 minutes ago, cormac mac airt said: Color is irrelevant. Genetics can determine whether or not it’s terrestrial. cormac I hope you did a funny there on purpose? Or did you seriously not get that I was facetious? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cormac mac airt Posted September 5 #22 Share Posted September 5 2 minutes ago, MrsGently said: I hope you did a funny there on purpose? Or did you seriously not get that I was facetious? I took it as written. I don’t know you well enough to do otherwise. cormac 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrsGently Posted September 5 #23 Share Posted September 5 3 minutes ago, cormac mac airt said: I took it as written. I don’t know you well enough to do otherwise. cormac How about context? Like the paragraph that followed that didn't give you a clue what my actual point was? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cormac mac airt Posted September 5 #24 Share Posted September 5 2 minutes ago, MrsGently said: How about context? Like the paragraph that followed that didn't give you a clue what my actual point was? I’ve heard enough crap from others over the years to see your follow-up paragraph as nothing special. Sorry. cormac 1 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hazzard Posted September 5 #25 Share Posted September 5 27 minutes ago, MrsGently said: What then Mr. Hazzard? Did you just assume my gender? 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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