F3SS Posted September 6 #1 Share Posted September 6 (edited) It's being argued like crazy and way too many people keep saying her installment is fair because people cast their vote for Biden and Harris in the 2024 primary. So here's a sample ballot. I'm sure you could find others. You voted for Biden and that's it. Period, end of story. Just wanted to make a thread so it can't be lost or ignored in a sea of comments. Edited September 6 by F3SS 4 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gromdor Posted September 6 #2 Share Posted September 6 The primaries work similar to the electoral college. Each state gets delegates that go to the convention and vote. Those delegates chose Harris at the Democratic Convention in Chicago. (If it makes you feel better Harris got 99% of the delegate votes) But remember, political parties don't have to do this at all. They can pick whoever they want. Also, people can run for president if they are eligible no matter what other people say- take Vermin Supreme for instance. 1 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buzz_Light_Year Posted September 6 #3 Share Posted September 6 You would only vote in the primary for Biden as the VP is selected by the presidential candidate. The VP could be selected anytime up to the convention. That also means that the current VP may not necessarily be the VP candidate as another could be selected. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F3SS Posted September 6 Author #4 Share Posted September 6 2 minutes ago, Buzz_Light_Year said: You would only vote in the primary for Biden as the VP is selected by the presidential candidate. The VP could be selected anytime up to the convention. That also means that the current VP may not necessarily be the VP candidate as another could be selected. Exactly right. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F3SS Posted September 6 Author #5 Share Posted September 6 (edited) 13 minutes ago, Gromdor said: The primaries work similar to the electoral college. Each state gets delegates that go to the convention and vote. Those delegates chose Harris at the Democratic Convention in Chicago. (If it makes you feel better Harris got 99% of the delegate votes) But remember, political parties don't have to do this at all. They can pick whoever they want. Also, people can run for president if they are eligible no matter what other people say- take Vermin Supreme for instance. Maybe they don't have to primary. I'll take your word for it but they did primary and they put Biden on the ballot. That means that nobody voted for her. That's the main point here. As for the delegates? What else were they gonna do at that point? And yes, anyone can run. Nobody thinks otherwise and I miss Vermin. Always looked forward to his platform of subsidized toothbrushes and a goat for every household. Edited September 6 by F3SS 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gromdor Posted September 6 #6 Share Posted September 6 1 minute ago, F3SS said: Maybe they don't have to primary. I'll take your word for it but they did primary and they put Biden on the ballot. That means that nobody voted for her. That's the main point here. As for the delegates? What else were they gonna do at that point? And yes, anyone can run. Nobody thinks otherwise and I miss Vermin. Always looked forward to his platform of subsidized toothbrushes and a goat for every household. They will either vote for her November or they won't. That is the only time it really matters. Last time I did a primary, there wasn't even a paper ballot. Republicans sat in the school auditiorium and just raised their hands to vote while the Democrats literally did Red Rover in the gymnasium with people in clumps cajoling others to come join their clump. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+and-then Posted September 6 #7 Share Posted September 6 5 minutes ago, F3SS said: I'll take your word for it but they did primary and they put Biden on the ballot The Democrat party has proven more than once that obeying the rules - even their own - is totally optional for them. When you control the media you can tell people anything, get it supported, and take power. However, if this election is in any way similar to 2020, this nation is going to truly begin to disintegrate. 5 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F3SS Posted September 6 Author #8 Share Posted September 6 1 minute ago, Gromdor said: They will either vote for her November or they won't. That is the only time it really matters. Last time I did a primary, there wasn't even a paper ballot. Republicans sat in the school auditiorium and just raised their hands to vote while the Democrats literally did Red Rover in the gymnasium with people in clumps cajoling others to come join their clump. Well at least they thought it was a fair way of doing things. Be honest though. Would you rather have a say who the candidate is or have them handpicked behind closed doors? 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+OverSword Posted September 6 #9 Share Posted September 6 You will be hard put to find a democrat voter complaining about getting biden off the ballot and harris on. It's done so move along. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gromdor Posted September 6 #10 Share Posted September 6 Well, before Trump, I voted third party and whoever I thought was best qualified from the major parties, so I am used to choosing from people handpicked behind closed doors..... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gromdor Posted September 6 #11 Share Posted September 6 1 minute ago, OverSword said: You will be hard put to find a democrat voter complaining about getting biden off the ballot and harris on. It's done so move along. This is true. The only people I have seen complaining are Republicans. The argument would have more merit if they had standing, but they are just complaining about something that doesn't have anything to do with them. 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F3SS Posted September 6 Author #12 Share Posted September 6 Just now, OverSword said: You will be hard put to find a democrat voter complaining about getting biden off the ballot and harris on. It's done so move along. It is done but I'm a bit tired of those dems telling people that she was voted in by proxy or otherwise. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gromdor Posted September 6 #13 Share Posted September 6 4 minutes ago, F3SS said: It is done but I'm a bit tired of those dems telling people that she was voted in by proxy or otherwise. These are the people that voted for her in my state: 2024 National Delegates | Iowa Democrats 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+OverSword Posted September 6 #14 Share Posted September 6 6 minutes ago, F3SS said: It is done but I'm a bit tired of those dems telling people that she was voted in by proxy or otherwise. Nobody else put their name on a ballot at the convention so it was by passive consent you could say. As far as I know someone else could have come forward for the convention. Of course the DNC would have arranged for them to never hold office as a democrat again but still........... 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tatetopa Posted September 6 #15 Share Posted September 6 It is not mandated by the Constitution how the parties select their candidates. We have only had primaries since the 60's. For 150 years before that, candidates were selected by delegates at the convention. It does not matter that Harris was not in the primary as a separate candidate. It is not illegal or un-Constitutional as I'm sure you already know. Just another red herring. At least the Dems had sense enough to convince Joe he was too old to do this again. What excuse do the Republicans have for running Grandpa Simpson when it could have been Nikki Haley? We get to vote in the Presidential election in November, then the electoral college decides the outcome. We can vote for anybody on the ballot or write somebody in. So, you don't have to vote for Kamala. Stick with the senile old man. 4 minutes ago, F3SS said: It is done but I'm a bit tired of those dems telling people that she was voted in by proxy or otherwise. I agree, No excuses, None needed. Democrats procrastinated, they knew Joe was getting too old before the primaries, but they were afraid to change candidates at that late date. Foolish as it turned out, they had to choose at the last minute. Conventions of the past were rowdy affairs with several nominees contesting for the majority of delegates. This time Shapiro, Newsome, and others could have marshaled delegates and challenged Kamala at the convention. But they didn't. They unified behind her. Wonder why? Because Trump is the greatest unifying factor in a naturally fragmented party, the Democrats. 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F3SS Posted September 6 Author #16 Share Posted September 6 3 minutes ago, Tatetopa said: This time Shapiro, Newsome, and others could have marshaled delegates and challenged Kamala at the convention. But they didn't. They unified behind her. Wonder why? Democrats are extremely monolithic. It would be refreshing to see some indivuality from the party that creates individual boxes for everyone in the country. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+OverSword Posted September 6 #17 Share Posted September 6 Individual boxes 😆 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F3SS Posted September 6 Author #18 Share Posted September 6 3 minutes ago, OverSword said: Individual boxes 😆 Ha, am I wrong? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrAnderson Posted September 6 #19 Share Posted September 6 10 minutes ago, F3SS said: Ha, am I wrong? Like I said earlier I don't have a good feeling about her becoming the next president. I am not in favor of Trump either but the whole thing really worries me. Anyone else with the same feelings? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+OverSword Posted September 6 #20 Share Posted September 6 24 minutes ago, F3SS said: Ha, am I wrong? You ****ing nailed it 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+OverSword Posted September 6 #21 Share Posted September 6 12 minutes ago, MrAnderson said: Like I said earlier I don't have a good feeling about her becoming the next president. I am not in favor of Trump either but the whole thing really worries me. Anyone else with the same feelings? Neither one would be in my top 500 picks for president. Trump is bad enough but I despise career politicians like harris that have no actual values or belief beyond what's politically expedient. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F3SS Posted September 6 Author #22 Share Posted September 6 34 minutes ago, MrAnderson said: Like I said earlier I don't have a good feeling about her becoming the next president. I am not in favor of Trump either but the whole thing really worries me. Anyone else with the same feelings? All I know is one way or another we need to get this election over with. I think Kamala will be an absolute nightmare and our country changes permanently for the worst. I think she's fake, disingenuous and runs completely on a script and will be the figurehead of a shadow government. Trump I think is goal oriented and wants to do the things he says he wants to do and is not going to be controlled by unelected elitists. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raptor Witness Posted September 6 #23 Share Posted September 6 1 hour ago, OverSword said: You will be hard put to find a democrat voter complaining about getting biden off the ballot and harris on. It's done so move along. It’s as if what the Republicans are really afraid of, is losing to a girl. If they were smart, they would’ve picked Nikki Haley, who I might’ve voted for. You can’t fix stupid when you’re in a narcissistic cult of personality like DJT’s. You’ll commit suicide first. Jim Jones, David Koresh, Heaven’s Gate …. the list of examples is long. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+OverSword Posted September 6 #24 Share Posted September 6 Just now, Raptor Witness said: It’s as if what the Republicans are really afraid of, is losing to a girl. I don't see gender as being a factor. The republicans went from the certainty of holding the white house to a strong probability that they will not. That's enough to get someone's shorts bunched up. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raptor Witness Posted September 6 #25 Share Posted September 6 2 minutes ago, OverSword said: I don't see gender as being a factor. The republicans went from the certainty of holding the white house to a strong probability that they will not. That's enough to get someone's shorts bunched up. ….. Does a little bit of satire, really bunch up yours? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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