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First and potentially only presidential debate between Harris and Trump being held in crucial battle


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As long as she doesn’t start playing silly word games or sink to Trump’s level of petty insults, Harris will not lose any votes, because she needs to keep the swing voters on side/lure them to the polling booth. 
Trump will not lose any votes unless he does something massively egregious like show empathy, because he’s not aiming at the swing voters, he’s aiming at keeping the folks who like him liking him. 

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17 minutes ago, Sir Wearer of Hats said:

empathy

The honey trap is set. I really hope he springs it. 

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If Trump loses this one he sure won't do another.  Will he pull a stumbling confused Biden impersonation?

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2 hours ago, docyabut2 said:

I think Trump will win all the issues:su 

In a debate against Trump, Harris has several advantages that could work in her favor. As a skilled communicator and seasoned debater herself, she has a reputation for her ability to articulate her points clearly and persuasively. Her background as a former Senator, AG and Prosecutor equips her with a wealth of knowledge, enabling her to navigate trump, effectively. 

Harris's experience dealing with contentious issues throughout her career has honed her ability to respond to attacks with composure and confidence. Many voters are eager to see how she handles Trump—who is known for his combative/bully style—I am positive she will be fine. And, If she wins, it will not only solidify her position within the Democratic Party but also gain support among undecided voters and young people who are seeking a change in leadership.

Harris's focus on unity, inclusivity, and forward-looking policies aligns with the aspirations of many voters who want to move beyond the divisiveness of recent years. I have had opportunities lately to talk to a lot of young people in the military who tell me they think trump is to “old” and too divisive and isn’t making sense anymore 😬(young men 18 to 30 year olds). 

If she can effectively convey her vision and address Trump’s tactics, it could significantly boost her visibility/appeal, translating into increased support in the polls.

We shall see and in the spirit of unity all the best to you tonight. 

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Presidential debate are always contentious. Even the last one, I saw people trying to claim Trump lost and Biden won the debate. But for the sake of some kind of metric, I'm posting the current bookmaker odds for Trump and Harris (and everyone else still potentially in with a chance). After the debate I'll post the odds again. Theoretically if one side has a clearly better debate than the other then that should be reflected in the odds markets (eg, after the first debate, Joe Biden had gone from the $2.20 outsider to the $5 outsider). If Harris beats Trump (or vice versa) there should be a swing to the democrats (or Republicans) in the odds. 

It's not perfect, and whomever loses will probably find reasons to complain why they won anyway,  but it is what it is. 

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26 minutes ago, Tatetopa said:

If Trump loses this one he sure won't do another.  Will he pull a stumbling confused Biden impersonation?

In my narrative: I would not be shocked to see him in Vegas next year at his hotel pretending he is Don Rickles, or he can be the next Rush Limbaugh, there is an opening. 😇

 

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53 minutes ago, Sherapy said:

In a debate against Trump, Harris has several advantages that could work in her favor. As a skilled communicator and seasoned debater herself, she has a reputation for her ability to articulate her points clearly and persuasively. Her background as a former Senator, AG and Prosecutor equips her with a wealth of knowledge, enabling her to navigate trump, effectively. 

Harris's experience dealing with contentious issues throughout her career has honed her ability to respond to attacks with composure and confidence. Many voters are eager to see how she handles Trump—who is known for his combative/bully style—I am positive she will be fine. And, If she wins, it will not only solidify her position within the Democratic Party but also gain support among undecided voters and young people who are seeking a change in leadership.

Harris's focus on unity, inclusivity, and forward-looking policies aligns with the aspirations of many voters who want to move beyond the divisiveness of recent years. I have had opportunities lately to talk to a lot of young people in the military who tell me they think trump is to “old” and too divisive and isn’t making sense anymore 😬(young men 18 to 30 year olds). 

If she can effectively convey her vision and address Trump’s tactics, it could significantly boost her visibility/appeal, translating into increased support in the polls.

We shall see and in the spirit of unity all the best to you tonight. 

She`s not going to win with in the issues for last four years .?

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18 minutes ago, Sherapy said:

Harris's focus on unity, inclusivity, and forward-looking policies aligns with the aspirations of many voters who want to move beyond the divisiveness of recent years.

I love it when Democrats talk about unity. It makes me laugh out loud every time. They spend all of five or ten minutes pulling that painfully out of the backside then spend the rest of the time trashing Trump and his supporters. I just saw an ad for her that showed Obama making fun of the size of the crowds, a quip he used during the convention. The DNC convention proved it conclusively. Granted, they didn't have much to talk about with Harris besides being a black female. They certainly didn't want to bring up her radical, far left history but mostly all they did was trash Trump.

The RNC convention was all about the future and what needs to be done. I don't remember anyone degrading Democrats. They walk the walk.

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17 minutes ago, docyabut2 said:

She`s not going to win with the issues for last four years .?

The failed insurrection trump instigated?  the fact hes a convicted felon,  sexist racist misogynist?  the fact his one term was a life costing incompetent bumbling failure? The fact hes old sick, mental decline badly? Etc

 

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1 minute ago, acidhead said:

The Eagle has landed. 

🦅

 

Have you seen the sheer number of people in the last 24 hours claiming Trump was going to chicken out and not show up? There's at least two I've seen here on UM, and heaps more elsewhere. It's like they forgot what happened at the first debate (I'm not claiming Trump will win as easily as he won the first debate, but to claim he's running scared and isn't going to show at all just shows how out of touch some of these people are). 

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3 minutes ago, Link of Hyrule said:

Have you seen the sheer number of people in the last 24 hours claiming Trump was going to chicken out and not show up? 

I see that all over the internet. The confidence they have to claim Trump will or won't do things that never come to fruition no matter how many times they've been wrong is amazing. It's as if they believe in the mythical caricature of him that they've created. Tate just said it above. If he loses he surely won't do the next one he says. 

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3 minutes ago, F3SS said:

If he loses he surely won't do the next one he says. 

What next one? It was like pulling teeth to get Harris to agree with this one much less another one.

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4 minutes ago, Michelle said:

I love it when Democrats talk about unity. It makes me laugh out loud every time. They spend all of five or ten minutes pulling that painfully out of the backside then spend the rest of the time trashing Trump and his supporters. I just saw an ad for her that showed Obama making fun of the size of the crowds, a quip he used during the convention. The DNC convention proved it conclusively. Granted, they didn't have much to talk about with Harris besides being a black female. They certainly didn't want to bring up her radical, far left history but mostly all they did was trash Trump.

The RNC convention was all about the future and what needs to be done. I don't remember anyone degrading Democrats. They walk the walk.

Be careful,  your desperation is showing.

All ive ever seen when it comes to unity with trump or maga is the same ideas hilter used, blame others for themselves being failures, trump divided our country its people beyond measures,

Trash trump? Is he a convicted felon?  and the rest of atrocities i list are never debated, proven wrong by maga rather they just go silly ad hominem on me which speaks volumes.

Rnc about te future? You mean that plan to abolish the constitution and make trump a dictator?  ill pass,

American was far greater before trump got involved.

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Biden and Harris  has admitted more than 5 million illegal immigrants INTO AMERICA : Congressional report

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/policy/immigration/3069027/biden-admitted-more-than-5-million-illegal-immigrants-congressional-report/#google_vignette

TRUMP WOULD NOT LET IT HAPPEN") ` 

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1 minute ago, Michelle said:

What next one? It was like pulling teeth to get Harris to agree with this one much less another one.

Yeah right,  if trump even shows up tonight she will spank him, got youre popcorn ? I got mine.

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12 minutes ago, F3SS said:

I see that all over the internet. The confidence they have to claim Trump will or won't do things that never come to fruition no matter how many times they've been wrong is amazing. It's as if they believe in the mythical caricature of him that they've created. Tate just said it above. If he loses he surely won't do the next one he says. 

There isn't a next one planned though, and if Harris loses I guarantee you she won't agree to a second one. Now I've just said the exact opposite to Tate, and regardless if we can ever agree on which candidate "won" or "lost" then there simply won't be another debate, period. 

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28 minutes ago, Link of Hyrule said:

Have you seen the sheer number of people in the last 24 hours claiming Trump was going to chicken out and not show up?

19 minutes ago, F3SS said:

I see that all over the internet. 

Exhibit A:

12 minutes ago, the13bats said:

Yeah right,  if trump even shows up tonight she will spank him, got youre popcorn ? I got mine.

For the sake of transparency, the debate starts in 6 minutes. I won't be able to watch it as I'm at work, but it's hilarious that they're still leaving the door ajar for him to bail out of the debate :lol: 

Who knows, maybe he'll get a covid diagnosis three minutes before the debate starts :lol: 

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I'm sitting here waiting. It's all that's been on the news all day. There's been crowds gathering since noon. There's a lot of security and roads closed.

Philadelphia presidential debate, heavy security causing mixed reactions - 6abc Philadelphia

Here's a rundown of what going on. Still updating.

Donald Trump vs Kamala Harris Presidential Debate Live Updates: How to watch the debate live at 9pm EST moderated by ABC News - 6abc Philadelphia

If I had you all here, we could go to a bar for a watch party.

Presidential debate: Philadelphia bars, including City Tap House, holding watch parties for Trump, Harris showdown - 6abc Philadelphia

There's even a spin room for after the debate.

Spin Room at Pennsylvania Convention Center will be the focus after the presidential debate in Philadelphia - 6abc Philadelphia

 

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Just now, susieice said:

I'm sitting here waiting. It's all that's been on the news all day.

ME TO👀

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2 minutes ago, docyabut2 said:

ME TO👀

I edited docy and added some Philly news links you may want to look at about what's going on.

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