docyabut2 Posted September 12 #1 Share Posted September 12 https://www.foxnews.com/media/abc-news-rebuked-pro-life-group-asked-correction-abortion-claim-debate-moderator 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrAnderson Posted September 12 #2 Share Posted September 12 (edited) 3 minutes ago, docyabut2 said: https://www.foxnews.com/media/abc-news-rebuked-pro-life-group-asked-correction-abortion-claim-debate-moderator I can't remember whether Harris answered any questions in relation to abortion. I think she didn't and she dodged the question altogether about whether she will allow late stage abortions. Edited September 12 by MrAnderson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michelle Posted September 12 #3 Share Posted September 12 Just now, MrAnderson said: I can't remember whether Harris answered any questions in relation to abortion. As with most of it she didn't answer that either. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Setton Posted September 12 #4 Share Posted September 12 4 minutes ago, docyabut2 said: https://www.foxnews.com/media/abc-news-rebuked-pro-life-group-asked-correction-abortion-claim-debate-moderator Nothing in that article or the...ahem..."evidence" provided by the anti-abortion group supports their claims or Trump's. 2 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrAnderson Posted September 12 #5 Share Posted September 12 Just now, Setton said: Nothing in that article or the...ahem..."evidence" provided by the anti-abortion group supports their claims or Trump's. Do you remember Harris answering any questions about abortion on this debate? She was asked but nothing was said (I think) from her side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Setton Posted September 12 #6 Share Posted September 12 2 minutes ago, MrAnderson said: Do you remember Harris answering any questions about abortion on this debate? She was asked but nothing was said (I think) from her side. She said she supports reinstating to Roe v Wade. It's in the OP.... 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrAnderson Posted September 12 #7 Share Posted September 12 12 minutes ago, Setton said: She said she supports reinstating to Roe v Wade. It's in the OP.... I know but she dodged everything in relation to the questions made to her by Trump. When they ask you if you support late stage abortions you must be able to say with confidence either yes or no and you should be able to explain why. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmccr8 Posted September 12 #8 Share Posted September 12 2 minutes ago, MrAnderson said: I know but she dodged everything in relation to the questions made to her by Trump. When they ask you if you support late stage abortions you must be able to say with confidence either yes or no and you should be able to explain why. HI Anderson I think Roe and Wade was specific in what it covered so yes she said she wanted to re-instate it as is. Seems everyone knew before what it was so what would be the point in asking other questions about her position when she already made her support clear. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michelle Posted September 12 #9 Share Posted September 12 (edited) 11 minutes ago, jmccr8 said: HI Anderson I think Roe and Wade was specific in what it covered so yes she said she wanted to re-instate it as is. Seems everyone knew before what it was so what would be the point in asking other questions about her position when she already made her support clear. Pardon me...Roe vs Wade wasn't a nationwide standard. It was a basis to go on. My county has never allowed abortions. Women have to go to Atlanta to get one. I don't know anywhere in Tennessee to get one. Not saying there isn't a county that allows them I just don't know about them. I know Atlanta is the closest. Edited September 12 by Michelle 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the13bats Posted September 12 #10 Share Posted September 12 A womans body is hers to choose what she feels is best for her its not trumps or the governments to decide for the poor little lady who they dont believe can think for herself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmccr8 Posted September 12 #11 Share Posted September 12 5 minutes ago, Michelle said: Pardon me...Roe vs Wade wasn't a nationwide standard. It was a basis to go on. My county has never allowed abortions. Women have to go to Atlanta to get one. I don't know anywhere in Tennessee to get one. Not saying there isn't a county that allows them I just don't know about them. I know Atlanta is the closest. HI Michelle Not being an American my understanding of the situation based on discussions here was that Roe and Wade was the basis for allowing abortions to exist legally in the country. I did see that when it was struck down that some States became more restrictive and concerns about being incarcerated for getting one. My response to Anderson was that Roe and Wade has already been defined so she gave an answer that if read and understood was sufficient to cover the answers to all questions related unless she would have said re-instate and ammend it which she didn't. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michelle Posted September 12 #12 Share Posted September 12 4 minutes ago, jmccr8 said: My response to Anderson was that Roe and Wade has already been defined so she gave an answer that if read and understood was sufficient to cover the answers to all questions related unless she would have said re-instate and ammend it which she didn't. I think it's better being left to each state. Roe vs Wade was never sufficient. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michelle Posted September 12 #13 Share Posted September 12 This is interesting... During the 1960s and early 1970s, opposition to abortion was concentrated among members of the political left and the Democratic Party, although feminists within predominately supported legalization. Most liberal Catholics and Mainline Protestants (both of which tended to vote for the Democratic Party) opposed liberalizing laws surrounding abortion while most other Protestants, including evangelicals, supported doing so as a matter of religious liberty, what they saw as a lack of biblical condemnation, and belief in non-intrusive government.[22][24][48][49] Roe v. Wade - Wikipedia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmccr8 Posted September 12 #14 Share Posted September 12 Just now, Michelle said: I think it's better being left to each state. Roe vs Wade was never sufficient. HI Michelle Well fortunately it isn't an issue for me but it is for many of your fellow country women and in my country it is legally accepted in every part of my country equally. Wasn't abortion illegal until Roe and Wade then allowed according to the discretion of each State? Removing it on the National level allows individual States to make it illegal and prosecute people even to the extent of going to another State and returning after having one. You are one country that has to have laws on the national interests of the people. I may be wrong but hey it's your kitchen and your the cook I'll just go sit at the table and leave you be. 😄 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+and-then Posted September 12 #15 Share Posted September 12 1 hour ago, Michelle said: As with most of it she didn't answer that either. I doubt she'll do any live interviews before election day, either. Anyone who would vote for a candidate that doesn't care enough to even explain their stances on issues, is a political party shill. Nothing more... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michelle Posted September 12 #16 Share Posted September 12 3 minutes ago, jmccr8 said: Removing it on the National level allows individual States to make it illegal and prosecute people even to the extent of going to another State and returning after having one That's just fearmongering. The contention is the term limits. That's it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+and-then Posted September 12 #17 Share Posted September 12 2 minutes ago, jmccr8 said: Wasn't abortion illegal until Roe and Wade then allowed according to the discretion of each State? The Roe decision - by nine old men - took the power out of the hands of the State governments and created a one-size for all rule. We are the United STATES of America. Our Founders recognized State's rights to be supreme except for limited situations. Modern America has decayed that premise to its nearly opposite pole where a central government crushes State's rights. The return of the right of States to make abortion decisions is closer to what the Founders envisioned. That said, while I support a State government choosing to limit or even to outlaw abortions, I do NOT agree that they should also create penalties for women who leave the State to have it done. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Setton Posted September 12 #18 Share Posted September 12 8 minutes ago, Michelle said: This is interesting... During the 1960s and early 1970s, opposition to abortion was concentrated among members of the political left and the Democratic Party, although feminists within predominately supported legalization. Most liberal Catholics and Mainline Protestants (both of which tended to vote for the Democratic Party) opposed liberalizing laws surrounding abortion while most other Protestants, including evangelicals, supported doing so as a matter of religious liberty, what they saw as a lack of biblical condemnation, and belief in non-intrusive government.[22][24][48][49] Roe v. Wade - Wikipedia Yes, the democratic party has moved forward while the republicans have gone backwards. That's the point you're trying to make right? 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Sherapy Posted September 12 #19 Share Posted September 12 (edited) 27 minutes ago, and-then said: I doubt she'll do any live interviews before election day, either. Anyone who would vote for a candidate that doesn't care enough to even explain their stances on issues, is a political party shill. Nothing more... She is asking for another debate, Trump said no. Edited September 12 by Sherapy 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmccr8 Posted September 13 #20 Share Posted September 13 1 hour ago, and-then said: The Roe decision - by nine old men - took the power out of the hands of the State governments and created a one-size for all rule. We are the United STATES of America. Our Founders recognized State's rights to be supreme except for limited situations. Modern America has decayed that premise to its nearly opposite pole where a central government crushes State's rights. The return of the right of States to make abortion decisions is closer to what the Founders envisioned. That said, while I support a State government choosing to limit or even to outlaw abortions, I do NOT agree that they should also create penalties for women who leave the State to have it done. HI And Then So you don't think citizens in all States deserve the same rights across the table, might as well be different countries if you don't all have the same rights and privileges we do in my country. One nation onr people divided as we are. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acidhead Posted September 13 #21 Share Posted September 13 1 hour ago, Sherapy said: She is asking for another debate, Trump said no. He asked for the FOX news debate on September 5. She said no. She'll only debate on home turf. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Link of Hyrule Posted September 13 #22 Share Posted September 13 1 hour ago, acidhead said: He asked for the FOX news debate on September 5. She said no. She'll only debate on home turf. Apparently he's chickening out, even though he never agreed to do a third debate. He did float a debate on September 4, Harris chickened out. Of course, I actually said she chickened out of the September 4 debate, and in response I was told so often that she never agreed to debate on September 4 so can't have chickened out. Doesn't the same logic apply now that Trump says no? Why is Trump chickening out but Harris is just fulfilling the commitments her party made for her? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Occupational Hubris Posted September 13 #23 Share Posted September 13 3 hours ago, Michelle said: That's just fearmongering. The contention is the term limits. That's it. It's not. Texas is actively suing to to block federal rules that prohibit investigators from viewing the medical records of women who travel out of state to seek abortions where the procedure is legal 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Sherapy Posted September 13 #24 Share Posted September 13 1 hour ago, acidhead said: He asked for the FOX news debate on September 5. She said no. She'll only debate on home turf. You are in error, look again. https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-harris-second-2024-presidential-debate/ 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the13bats Posted September 13 #25 Share Posted September 13 3 hours ago, Sherapy said: She is asking for another debate, Trump said no. Of course trump chickened out, harris owned him in the first debate from the moment it started until its end, she was stellar trump was his typical self , harris the prosecutor played trump convicted felon like a fiddle. Trump doesnt want that again. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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