Low-skilled migrants cost taxpayers £150,000 each.

[itsnotoutthere]

Low-paid migrant workers are an immediate drain on the public purse, costing taxpayers more than £150,000 each by the time they hit state pension age, according to the Government’s tax and spending watchdog.

The Office for Budget Responsibility (OBR) said the average low-earner who came to Britain aged 25 cost the Government more overall than they paid in from the moment they arrived.

The cumulative bill rose to an estimated £151,000 by the time they could claim the state pension at 66, the watchdog said.

This is because low-paid migrants – who the OBR assumes earn half the average wage – put more demand on public services such as the NHS compared to their relatively low-tax payments.

The OBR estimated the cost to the public purse rose to almost £500,000 if they lived to 80, and more than £1m if they lived to 100.

By contrast, the average British-born worker boosts the public finances by £280,000 by the time they reach 66, even adjusting for education and health spending before they start work.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/news/low-skilled-migrants-cost-taxpayers-150-000-each/ar-AA1qtk3p?ocid=BingNewsSerp

[Duke Wellington]

Our island has too many immigrants, its at the point where its changing the makeup of the UK.

While neglecting the fact that we have a right to a country of our own to call home. Time to get behind Reform people and close the door.

[pellinore]

2 hours ago, Duke Wellington said:

Our island has too many immigrants, its at the point where its changing the makeup of the UK.

While neglecting the fact that we have a right to a country of our own to call home. Time to get behind Reform people and close the door.

It was the Reform people who opened the door:

[L.A.T.1961]

18 minutes ago, pellinore said:

It was the Reform people who opened the door:

It's a pity the graph supplied does not demonstrate your claim. 😉 

[pellinore]

1 hour ago, L.A.T.1961 said:

It's a pity the graph supplied does not demonstrate your claim. 😉 

But it does. Immigration rocked after Brexit, because we swapped temporary EU workers (FoM) with permanent immigrants from the rest of the world under the new points-based system. You can see EU worker numbers dip at the end of 2020 and non-EU numbers rise steeply. And overall immigration quadruples.

You know how graphs work? The horizontal axis shows the years, the vertical axis is numbers in thousands. The coloured lines represent the nationalities with red the total. 

[Duke Wellington]

42 minutes ago, pellinore said:

But it does. Immigration rocked after Brexit, because we swapped temporary EU workers (FoM) with permanent immigrants from the rest of the world under the new points-based system. You can see EU worker numbers dip at the end of 2020 and non-EU numbers rise steeply. And overall immigration quadruples.

You know how graphs work? The horizontal axis shows the years, the vertical axis is numbers in thousands. The coloured lines represent the nationalities with red the total. 

You are looking at a post-corona influx to create the illusion of economic growth.

[pellinore]

2 hours ago, Duke Wellington said:

You are looking at a post-corona influx to create the illusion of economic growth.

You have surpassed yourself in misunderstanding with this post. No one is taking about growth - the graph shows migration.

If corona inhibited migration, there would not have been the massive increase post 2020.

[Setton]

7 hours ago, Duke Wellington said:

Time to get behind Reform people and close the door.

All four of them!

[pellinore]

12 hours ago, itsnotoutthere said:

Low-paid migrant workers are an immediate drain on the public purse, costing taxpayers more than £150,000 each by the time they hit state pension age, according to the Government’s tax and spending watchdog.

The Office for Budget Responsibility (OBR) said the average low-earner who came to Britain aged 25 cost the Government more overall than they paid in from the moment they arrived.

The cumulative bill rose to an estimated £151,000 by the time they could claim the state pension at 66, the watchdog said.

This is because low-paid migrants – who the OBR assumes earn half the average wage – put more demand on public services such as the NHS compared to their relatively low-tax payments.

The OBR estimated the cost to the public purse rose to almost £500,000 if they lived to 80, and more than £1m if they lived to 100.

By contrast, the average British-born worker boosts the public finances by £280,000 by the time they reach 66, even adjusting for education and health spending before they start work.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/news/low-skilled-migrants-cost-taxpayers-150-000-each/ar-AA1qtk3p?ocid=BingNewsSerp

This is because we have swapped temporary and seasonal workers from Europe for permanent settled immigration from all around the world. And we are still short of about 800,000 workers in low paid jobs in hospitality, care and construction etc. They all benefited our economy, hugely. Farmers, manufacturers, and hospitality are all pleading the govt to return to freedom of movement.

We used to have single people coming here for 6- 9 months each year to pick fruit, do plumbing etc, then return home having earned a lot more than they could at home. Now firms have to attract people from Africa and Asia to do these jobs and they bring their families.

Eastern Europeans are no longer interested because 1. the difficulties of getting a visa 2. the unpleasantness of the UK public, and 3. Eastern Europe will soon be richer than the UK if we pursue these mad policies.

Well done Brexiters, you are well on the way to changing the UK from a powerful European country to a Third World ghetto.

 

Edited September 13 by pellinore

[pellinore]

2 minutes ago, Setton said:

All four of them!

That did make me laugh! And look at them: Farage, Tice, Anderson (I don't know the 4th)- the stupidest, vilest, most ignorant and laziest politicians ever to enter the H of C. (And that is even taking into account Johnson, Truss, Priti Patel, Rees Mogg, Braverman, Nadine Dories, Matt Hancock and all the other idiots who have run the UK into the ground).

[Duke Wellington]

20 minutes ago, pellinore said:

You have surpassed yourself in misunderstanding with this post. No one is taking about growth - the graph shows migration.

If corona inhibited migration, there would not have been the massive increase post 2020.

And the extra immigrants helped offset the post-corona depression.

[pellinore]

5 minutes ago, Duke Wellington said:

And the extra immigrants helped offset the post-corona depression.

I give up.

[L.A.T.1961]

19 hours ago, pellinore said:

This is because we have swapped temporary and seasonal workers from Europe for permanent settled immigration from all around the world. And we are still short of about 800,000 workers in low paid jobs in hospitality, care and construction etc. They all benefited our economy, hugely. Farmers, manufacturers, and hospitality are all pleading the govt to return to freedom of movement.

We used to have single people coming here for 6- 9 months each year to pick fruit, do plumbing etc, then return home having earned a lot more than they could at home. Now firms have to attract people from Africa and Asia to do these jobs and they bring their families.

Eastern Europeans are no longer interested because 1. the difficulties of getting a visa 2. the unpleasantness of the UK public, and 3. Eastern Europe will soon be richer than the UK if we pursue these mad policies.

Well done Brexiters, you are well on the way to changing the UK from a powerful European country to a Third World ghetto.

 

I don't think the UK has to worry too much about long term immigration numbers.  

We did have Rwanda as a deterrent, now we have Starmer and his rubberstamp government hacking away at essential benefits. 😉

 

Edited September 14 by L.A.T.1961

[Setton]

16 minutes ago, L.A.T.1961 said:

I don't think the UK has to worry too much about long term immigration numbers.  

We did have Rwanda as a deterrent, now we have Starmer and his rubberstamp government hacking away at essential benefits. 😉

 

"Essential benefits"

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Winter fuel payment: We spend it on holidays, say some pensioners

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c4gegy4r9ndo

[L.A.T.1961]

18 minutes ago, Setton said:

"Essential benefits"

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c4gegy4r9ndo

Using the exception to defend the choice, Labour apologists need to come up with something better than that.

[Setton]

1 minute ago, L.A.T.1961 said:

Using the exception to defend the choice, Labour apologists need to come up with something better than that.

How about you explain why the winter fuel allowance shouldn't be means tested, like practically every other benefit?

[L.A.T.1961]

12 minutes ago, Setton said:

How about you explain why the winter fuel allowance shouldn't be means tested, like practically every other benefit?

Its cheaper to operate, conveniently forgetting about management costs should be a red flag to the cautious.

I have seen no estimate for running the new system. Strange when the Labour party talk of transparency and costing everything.

[Setton]

2 hours ago, L.A.T.1961 said:

Its cheaper to operate, conveniently forgetting about management costs should be a red flag to the cautious.

I have seen no estimate for running the new system. Strange when the Labour party talk of transparency and costing everything.

Well seeing as the new system is you get it if you're on pension credit, no new operating costs. Pension credit is already being worked out, they just get an extra 300 now.

[pellinore]

On 9/14/2024 at 5:44 PM, L.A.T.1961 said:

I don't think the UK has to worry too much about long term immigration numbers.  

We did have Rwanda as a deterrent, now we have Starmer and his rubberstamp government hacking away at essential benefits. 😉

We had the Dublin Agreement to work as a deterrent, and it was very, very effective. Rwanda was a gimmick that got nowhere. Now the UK has Taken Back Control of Our Borders- working well, isn't it?