WVK Posted September 16 #1 Share Posted September 16 Media Mocks Trump Over ‘Transgender Operations on Illegal Aliens’ Only to Find Out Harris Wanted the Government to Pay for Them Well, today’s thinly-disguised partisan press suffers from both maladies. Donald Trump’s performance at Tuesday night’s debate was replete with misrepresentations, absurdities, and outright lies. “In Springfield, they’re eating the dogs. The people that came in. They’re eating the cats. They’re eating — they’re eating the pets of the people that live there,” he blurted out at one point. It was an embarrassing display. But because so much of the press sees itself as an arm of the Democratic Party, certain outlets managed to overstate their case and embarrass themselves as well. While assailing Vice President Kamala Harris over the radicalism of her 2020 campaign for president, Trump mused that “She did things that nobody would ever think of. Now she wants to do transgender operations on illegal aliens that are in prison. This is a radical left liberal that would do this.” https://www.mediaite.com/opinion/media-mocks-trump-over-transgender-operations-on-illegal-aliens-only-to-find-out-harris-wanted-the-government-to-pay-for-them/ 6 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edumakated Posted September 16 #2 Share Posted September 16 What is hilarious is that some of this stuff is so extreme, the left immediately laughs and fact checks.... only too find out it was true. LOL. They really have no idea how extreme the left can be... 7 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WVK Posted September 16 Author #3 Share Posted September 16 24 minutes ago, Edumakated said: What is hilarious is that some of this stuff is so extreme, the left immediately laughs and fact checks.... only too find out it was true. LOL. They really have no idea how extreme the left can be... Kamala Harris: “My values have not changed “. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+OverSword Posted September 16 #4 Share Posted September 16 28 minutes ago, Edumakated said: What is hilarious is that some of this stuff is so extreme, the left immediately laughs and fact checks.... only too find out it was true. LOL. They really have no idea how extreme the left can be... What they actually do is say "She was not in favor of trans gender operations for illegals, she was in favor of trans gender care or treatment" as if they gotcha. Pathetic. People do that kind of stuff on here all the time. 7 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrAnderson Posted September 16 #5 Share Posted September 16 18 minutes ago, WVK said: Kamala Harris: “My values have not changed “. That's fine to have your own values and stand by what you believe. But is transgender care the top priority for Harris where there are many and much more serious issues in the country. When she was asked about late stage abortions she dodged the question if you remember. She is probably against them but you need to be clear and say it openly. Don't be afraid you will be attacked or criticised by some woke activists or the press. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrAnderson Posted September 16 #6 Share Posted September 16 48 minutes ago, Edumakated said: What is hilarious is that some of this stuff is so extreme, the left immediately laughs and fact checks.... only too find out it was true. LOL. They really have no idea how extreme the left can be... It is as extreme as the other side they usually criticise, the far right. And I am talking about the radical left here. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawken Posted September 16 #7 Share Posted September 16 Remember when the left was in an outrage that Kristi Noem shot her dog? Now they dismiss pets being eaten by migrants. 4 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psyche101 Posted September 17 #8 Share Posted September 17 4 hours ago, Hawken said: Remember when the left was in an outrage that Kristi Noem shot her dog? Now they dismiss pets being eaten by migrants. They aren't being eaten by immigrants. It's been investigated and the sources brought to light. You do lie a lot though. It's to be expected I suppose. 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psyche101 Posted September 17 #9 Share Posted September 17 6 hours ago, WVK said: Media Mocks Trump Over ‘Transgender Operations on Illegal Aliens’ Only to Find Out Harris Wanted the Government to Pay for Them Well, today’s thinly-disguised partisan press suffers from both maladies. Donald Trump’s performance at Tuesday night’s debate was replete with misrepresentations, absurdities, and outright lies. “In Springfield, they’re eating the dogs. The people that came in. They’re eating the cats. They’re eating — they’re eating the pets of the people that live there,” he blurted out at one point. It was an embarrassing display. But because so much of the press sees itself as an arm of the Democratic Party, certain outlets managed to overstate their case and embarrass themselves as well. While assailing Vice President Kamala Harris over the radicalism of her 2020 campaign for president, Trump mused that “She did things that nobody would ever think of. Now she wants to do transgender operations on illegal aliens that are in prison. This is a radical left liberal that would do this.” https://www.mediaite.com/opinion/media-mocks-trump-over-transgender-operations-on-illegal-aliens-only-to-find-out-harris-wanted-the-government-to-pay-for-them/ Not operations, treatment. Are you against treatment of anyone else? Just got perspective. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrAnderson Posted September 17 #10 Share Posted September 17 (edited) 14 hours ago, WVK said: Media Mocks Trump Over ‘Transgender Operations on Illegal Aliens’ Only to Find Out Harris Wanted the Government to Pay for Them Well, today’s thinly-disguised partisan press suffers from both maladies. Donald Trump’s performance at Tuesday night’s debate was replete with misrepresentations, absurdities, and outright lies. “In Springfield, they’re eating the dogs. The people that came in. They’re eating the cats. They’re eating — they’re eating the pets of the people that live there,” he blurted out at one point. It was an embarrassing display. But because so much of the press sees itself as an arm of the Democratic Party, certain outlets managed to overstate their case and embarrass themselves as well. While assailing Vice President Kamala Harris over the radicalism of her 2020 campaign for president, Trump mused that “She did things that nobody would ever think of. Now she wants to do transgender operations on illegal aliens that are in prison. This is a radical left liberal that would do this.” https://www.mediaite.com/opinion/media-mocks-trump-over-transgender-operations-on-illegal-aliens-only-to-find-out-harris-wanted-the-government-to-pay-for-them/ From your article On Monday, CNN’s Andrew Kaczynski came out with a damning report in which he noted that Harris endorsed “taxpayer-funded gender transition surgeries” for both detained illegal immigrants and federal prisoners in her response to a questionnaire sent to her by the American Civil Liberties Union. Edited September 17 by MrAnderson 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrAnderson Posted September 17 #11 Share Posted September 17 8 hours ago, psyche101 said: Not operations, treatment. Are you against treatment of anyone else? Just got perspective. It says surgeries in the article. See my post above. Are these surgeries part of what they call care? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Occupational Hubris Posted September 18 #12 Share Posted September 18 On 9/16/2024 at 5:27 PM, Hawken said: Remember when the left was in an outrage that Kristi Noem shot her dog? Now they dismiss pets being eaten by migrants. Not one case of pets being eaten while noem admitted in her book to be a complete piece of ****. Try again. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psyche101 Posted September 18 #13 Share Posted September 18 20 hours ago, MrAnderson said: It says surgeries in the article. See my post above. Are these surgeries part of what they call care? The article paraphrased. It is referring to a 2019 questionnaire, not current policy where Kamala's actual words were: “it is important that transgender individuals who rely on the state for care receive the treatment they need, which includes access to treatment associated with gender transition.” Google it and check yourself. Those who rely on system care already receive treatment don't they. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psyche101 Posted September 18 #14 Share Posted September 18 1 hour ago, Occupational Hubris said: Not one case of pets being eaten while noem admitted in her book to be a complete piece of ****. Try again. With Hawken, if Trump said it is true. Anything else is blasphemy. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrAnderson Posted September 18 #15 Share Posted September 18 2 hours ago, psyche101 said: The article paraphrased. It is referring to a 2019 questionnaire, not current policy where Kamala's actual words were: “it is important that transgender individuals who rely on the state for care receive the treatment they need, which includes access to treatment associated with gender transition.” Google it and check yourself. Those who rely on system care already receive treatment don't they. You can use the link if you want because I don't know that thing has been paraphrased. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psyche101 Posted September 18 #16 Share Posted September 18 2 minutes ago, MrAnderson said: You can use the link if you want because I don't know that thing has been paraphrased. Yes you do, I just gave you the quote in context. Are you having difficulties with the sentence? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Link of Hyrule Posted September 18 #17 Share Posted September 18 (edited) 16 minutes ago, MrAnderson said: You can use the link if you want because I don't know that thing has been paraphrased. Doesn't matter if y was paraphrased or not, it 100% includes transition surgery so I don't get what the argument is about: “it is important that transgender individuals who rely on the state for care receive the treatment they need, which includes access to treatment associated with gender transition.” No paraphrase needed to see that she advocated for illegal immigrants in prison to get transition surgery if they wanted it. Edited September 18 by Link of Hyrule 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrAnderson Posted September 18 #18 Share Posted September 18 13 minutes ago, psyche101 said: Yes you do, I just gave you the quote in context. Are you having difficulties with the sentence? I want to see what is the article you are refering to. Because this isn't what it was said above and I have already posted what it was said. From the article On Monday, CNN’s Andrew Kaczynski came out with a damning report in which he noted that Harris endorsed “taxpayer-funded gender transition surgeries” for both detained illegal immigrants and federal prisoners in her response to a questionnaire sent to her by the American Civil Liberties Union. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psyche101 Posted September 18 #19 Share Posted September 18 2 minutes ago, Link of Hyrule said: Doesn't matter if y was paraphrased or not, it 100% includes transition surgery so I don't get what the argument is about: “it is important that transgender individuals who rely on the state for care receive the treatment they need, which includes access to treatment associated with gender transition.” No paraphrase needed to see that she advocated for illegal immigrants in prison to get transition surgery if they wanted it. Bold the Who rely on state care Bit and read again. How is that not pre-existing? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrAnderson Posted September 18 #20 Share Posted September 18 2 minutes ago, Link of Hyrule said: Paraphrase or more, it 100% includes transition surgery so I don't get what the argument is about: “it is important that transgender individuals who rely on the state for care receive the treatment they need, which includes access to treatment associated with gender transition.” No paraphrase needed to see that she advocated for illegal immigrants in prison to get transition surgery if they wanted it. That's what I think too. The poster seems to have given his own interpretation of how things appear to be when in reality the CNN reporter Andrew Kaczynski said something else. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrAnderson Posted September 18 #21 Share Posted September 18 1 minute ago, psyche101 said: Bold the Who rely on state care Bit and read again. How is that not pre-existing? Are you saying that the CNN reporter has it wrong when he said what I quoted above? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psyche101 Posted September 18 #22 Share Posted September 18 2 minutes ago, MrAnderson said: I want to see what is the article you are refering to. Because this isn't what it was said above and I have already posted what it was said. From the article On Monday, CNN’s Andrew Kaczynski came out with a damning report in which he noted that Harris endorsed “taxpayer-funded gender transition surgeries” for both detained illegal immigrants and federal prisoners in her response to a questionnaire sent to her by the American Civil Liberties Union. I told you to Google it so you can pick your own source. This one will confirm the above. https://www.google.com/amp/s/abcnews.go.com/amp/Politics/trumps-transgender-operations-illegal-aliens-debate-claim/story%3fid=113584635 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psyche101 Posted September 18 #23 Share Posted September 18 Just now, MrAnderson said: Are you saying that the CNN reporter has it wrong when he said what I quoted above? Just now, psyche101 said: I told you to Google it so you can pick your own source. This one will confirm the above. https://www.google.com/amp/s/abcnews.go.com/amp/Politics/trumps-transgender-operations-illegal-aliens-debate-claim/story%3fid=113584635 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Link of Hyrule Posted September 18 #24 Share Posted September 18 6 minutes ago, psyche101 said: Bold the Who rely on state care Bit and read again. How is that not pre-existing? How does that change the meaning? Harris literally said people "who rely on state care" (for example criminals in prison, including illegal immigrants) should have access to medical care including "treatment associated with gender transition". She is literally saying it, no paraphrase needed. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrAnderson Posted September 18 #25 Share Posted September 18 13 minutes ago, psyche101 said: I told you to Google it so you can pick your own source. This one will confirm the above. https://www.google.com/amp/s/abcnews.go.com/amp/Politics/trumps-transgender-operations-illegal-aliens-debate-claim/story%3fid=113584635 From your article The questionnaire asked: “As President, will you use your executive authority to ensure that transgender and nonbinary people who rely on the state for medical care — including those in prison and immigration detention — will have access to comprehensive treatment associated with gender transition, including all necessary surgical care? If yes, how will you do so?” It seems to include surgeries and the question was phrased to include surgical care as it is described. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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