Are alien abduction implants real?

[Shadowsfall]

1 hour ago, MrAnderson said:

If that's true (as we don't know) you can ask a similar question. Why humans plant things on animals or experimenting on them.

And what are aliens who travelled across galaxies likely to learn from us ….and again for what reason…..

[MrAnderson]

2 minutes ago, Shadowsfall said:

And what are aliens who travelled across galaxies likely to learn from us ….and again for what reason…..

Is this part of space exploration? To learn about other species (if they exist), study us the same way we will study them.

[Shadowsfall]

How are we going to study them and why do they need to study us…..my guess is they would be omnipotent compared to us…..they wouldn’t need to study us to know who ,why and what we are….in other words they wouldn’t need to visit….save on the fuel kinda thing…….

[MrAnderson]

13 minutes ago, Shadowsfall said:

How are we going to study them and why do they need to study us…..my guess is they would be omnipotent compared to us…..they wouldn’t need to study us to know who ,why and what we are….in other words they wouldn’t need to visit….save on the fuel kinda thing…….

Just like we study other species if we can (here on earth). I am not quite sure how did you end up with them being omnipotent. You meant more advanced from us and that could be true especially if they are able to visit. But that doesn't imply unlimited power.

[Shadowsfall]

5 minutes ago, MrAnderson said:

Just like we study other species if we can (here on earth). I am not quite sure how did you end up with them being omnipotent. You meant more advanced from us and that could be true especially if they are able to visit. But that doesn't imply unlimited power.

only my guess and my opinion we will leave it at that …..

[Hazzard]

On 10/6/2024 at 3:41 AM, MrAnderson said:

You meant more advanced from us and that could be true especially if they are able to visit. But that doesn't imply unlimited power.

Why not?

[MrAnderson]

46 minutes ago, Hazzard said:

Why not?

You mean why they can't have unlimited power? What civilization do you think has unlimited sources of energy which can use efficienctly or is omnipotent as suggested. From a philosophical viewpoint only God is omnipotent (if you believe in God).

[Golden Duck]

On 10/6/2024 at 11:10 AM, Shadowsfall said:

And what are aliens who travelled across galaxies likely to learn from us ….and again for what reason…..

I don't find this argument against ET visitatipn very useful.

Gregor Mendel learnt things from studying fruit flies. 

[Hazzard]

13 hours ago, MrAnderson said:

 What civilization do you think has unlimited sources of energy which can use efficienctly or is omnipotent as suggested. 

A type 4 civilization, and above. 

Edited October 8, 2024 by Hazzard

[MrAnderson]

6 hours ago, Hazzard said:

A type 4 civilization, and above. 

I can't see type 4 civilizations to exist but on the other hand I can't dismiss anything. It's very unlikely that a civilization could harvest the energy of the entire universe because the entire universe isn't a planet or a star.

[Hazzard]

35 minutes ago, MrAnderson said:

I can't see type 4 civilizations to exist but on the other hand I can't dismiss anything. It's very unlikely that a civilization could harvest the energy of the entire universe because the entire universe isn't a planet or a star.

 

[MrAnderson]

9 hours ago, Hazzard said:

 

Anything to add on this? And how a civilization would be able to harvest the energy from the entire universe?

[Hazzard]

5 hours ago, MrAnderson said:

Anything to add on this? And how a civilization would be able to harvest the energy from the entire universe?

How??!  If I had a buck for every time I asked you that and got an answer that looked and smelled like what my dog squeezes out on the sidewalk..!!

But ok... Read up on the Kardashev scale.

 

Edited October 9, 2024 by Hazzard

[Antigonos]

5 hours ago, MrAnderson said:

Anything to add on this? And how a civilization would be able to harvest the energy from the entire universe?

 For all the hot air you spout conflating belief in UFOS being alien craft with a general belief in extraterrestrial life in the universe, you aren’t nearly as familiar with the theories on the possibilities of extraterrestrial civilizations as you want everyone here to think that you are. 
What a surprise.

[Hazzard]

14 minutes ago, Antigonos said:

 For all the hot air you spout conflating belief in UFOS being alien craft with a general belief in extraterrestrial life in the universe, you aren’t nearly as familiar with the theories on the possibilities of extraterrestrial civilizations as you want everyone here to think that you are. 
What a surprise.

Good post. I couldnt possibly agree more. 

Clueless, is a good word.

All talk, are also two good ones.

[Essan]

Whilst I can understand that advanced aliens, capable of reaching Earth, might very well be interested in studying the primitive lifeforms on our planet - and even intervene to stop us destroying ourselves - I fail to see how they achieve that by playing tag with USAF fighter jets, flying around in formation with lights blazing, and occasionally crashing in remote areas (and why do they have no subsequent interest in recovering their aircraft and its occupants?).

IMO if aliens are visiting Earth, we'd know about it in the same way termites in Brazil know they are being studied by satellite.

[Antigonos]

6 minutes ago, Hazzard said:

Good post. I couldnt possibly agree more. 

Clueless, is a good word.

All talk, are also two good ones.

Thanks, man. Yep, they all fit like a glove.

Edited October 9, 2024 by Antigonos

[Saru]

Alien implants - as far as I know, nobody has ever produced a physical sample of an alleged alien implant that has ever stood up to scrutiny and testing.

[Essan]

1 minute ago, Saru said:

Alien implants - as far as I know, nobody has ever produced a physical sample of an alleged alien implant that has ever stood up to scrutiny and testing.

That proves there is a conspiracy and that "they" take the implants away before anyone can analyse them.   Much like "they" do with all of the crashed spacecraft, and, indeed, any data at all that might provide evidence of alien visitors.

[Trelane]

4 minutes ago, Saru said:

Alien implants - as far as I know, nobody has ever produced a physical sample of an alleged alien implant that has ever stood up to scrutiny and testing.

Like you and some others have commented in other threads , it normally comes down to an individual's belief on the subject.

The scientific results are normally dismissed by the pro-ETH individuals. The reasons vary but normally, it is linked to conspiratorial items or from a standpoint of deliberate ignorance.

[Hazzard]

2 hours ago, Trelane said:

The scientific results are normally dismissed by the pro-ETH individuals. The reasons vary but normally, it is linked to conspiratorial items or from a standpoint of deliberate ignorance.

Now this is something that Im truly interested in (the psychology behind this mindset) and I have read Shermers book and watched other stuff on this topic - Why people believe in weird things. (without corroborating evidence)... Im not talking religion here just the paranormal.

I still dont get it, I wish someone could explain it to me... this strong belief in ghosts, bigfoot or alien visitation.

Why are some people like this?

 

 

 

[MrAnderson]

13 hours ago, Antigonos said:

 For all the hot air you spout conflating belief in UFOS being alien craft with a general belief in extraterrestrial life in the universe, you aren’t nearly as familiar with the theories on the possibilities of extraterrestrial civilizations as you want everyone here to think that you are. 
What a surprise.

How did you come up to this conclusion? It's erroneous to start with. Can you not see what is the problem with civilizations being omnipotent and have unlimited power? How they will achieve this? Does anyone have a clue? Because there is a difference between being able to travel between stars and being omnipotent.

UFOs and aliens are different in principle but they are related a lot. Even if you take look at the name of this forum it says Extraterrestrial Life and the UFO Phenomenon.

[MrAnderson]

13 hours ago, Hazzard said:

Good post. I couldnt possibly agree more. 

Clueless, is a good word.

All talk, are also two good ones.

You still haven't answered the question how can a civilization become omnipotent?

13 hours ago, Antigonos said:

Thanks, man. Yep, they all fit like a glove.

You can help him answer the question.

[MrAnderson]

13 hours ago, Hazzard said:

How??!  If I had a buck for every time I asked you that and got an answer that looked and smelled like what my dog squeezes out on the sidewalk..!!

But ok... Read up on the Kardashev scale.

 

The Kardashev scale is about the level of technological achievement reached by each civilization which is related to how much energy it can capture and use. It doesn't say how they will do it which is the main point.

[Hazzard]

7 hours ago, MrAnderson said:

You still haven't answered the question how can a civilization become omnipotent?

You said..

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And how a civilization would be able to harvest the energy from the entire universe?

And I said that Im done helping you with anything, go look for the answer yourself! 🦐

Edited October 10, 2024 by Hazzard