docyabut2 Posted September 21 #1 Share Posted September 21 https://www.cnn.com/2024/09/21/africa/chimpanzee-center-ransacked-guinea-infant-killed-intl/index.html 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pellinore Posted September 21 #2 Share Posted September 21 It's always a problem when wild animals and humans come into conflict over resources. Elephants can devastate farms, big cats can terrorize villages, sharks can damage tourist industries, etc. I can't see an easy solution- conservationists side with the animals, but the people on the sharp end have a problem to deal with. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
openozy Posted September 21 #3 Share Posted September 21 How many chimps do humans kill. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pellinore Posted September 22 #4 Share Posted September 22 21 hours ago, openozy said: How many chimps do humans kill. None, going on my personal experience. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
openozy Posted September 22 #5 Share Posted September 22 50 minutes ago, pellinore said: None, going on my personal experience. Never heard of bush meat? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pellinore Posted September 22 #6 Share Posted September 22 1 minute ago, openozy said: Never heard of bush meat? Heard of it, never tried it. Is it good? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
openozy Posted September 22 #7 Share Posted September 22 15 minutes ago, pellinore said: Heard of it, never tried it. Is it good? I just know in Africa nothing is off the menu. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ajay0 Posted September 23 #8 Share Posted September 23 Research has shown that chimpanzees are the closest living relatives of humans with the dna being 98.8 percent identical. Ironically, it has been observed that the chimpanzees are also the most violent and ill-behaved of the ape family. Like humans, chimpanzees too have been discovered to wage war on their own species. https://geneticliteracyproject.org/2024/07/26/chimpanzees-and-humans-share-98-8-of-their-dna-and-just-like-people-chimps-are-both-bloodthirsty-warmongers-and-thoughtful-beings/ The two world wars which originated in europe killing over a hundred million people is a well documented example of human beings waging war against its own species. Between 1974 and 1978, a brutal war between two factions of chimps was documented in Tanzania’s Gombe National Park by the famous primatologist Jane Goodall. I would say it is only natural that humans and chimpanzees are coming increasingly into conflict with each other inspite of their common primate ancestry. Deeper research into the genetics and biology of the Chimpanzee is thus necessary to unravel genetic and biological markers in human beings responsible for violent or sociopathic behavior, which can eventually lead to solutions for reducing such. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pellinore Posted September 24 #9 Share Posted September 24 On 9/22/2024 at 11:30 PM, openozy said: I just know in Africa nothing is off the menu. These are very poor people, who need to eat and earn a living. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
openozy Posted September 24 #10 Share Posted September 24 15 minutes ago, pellinore said: These are very poor people, who need to eat and earn a living. I don't blame them but they need not be eating endangered species such as chimps. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
openozy Posted September 24 #11 Share Posted September 24 If we want these awesome creatures to share the planet there are always going to be human casualties, it's not like we're endangered. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pellinore Posted September 24 #12 Share Posted September 24 14 hours ago, openozy said: If we want these awesome creatures to share the planet there are always going to be human casualties, it's not like we're endangered. Tell that to a dirt-poor villager and see how he reacts- he probably won't agree he should let himself starve to death because there are plenty of other humans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
openozy Posted September 24 #13 Share Posted September 24 2 hours ago, pellinore said: Tell that to a dirt-poor villager and see how he reacts- he probably won't agree he should let himself starve to death because there are plenty of other humans. I'd shoot the poacher if he's hungry or not, that's why we have laws to protect endangered wildlife. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Devil Posted September 25 #14 Share Posted September 25 16 hours ago, openozy said: I'd shoot the poacher if he's hungry or not, that's why we have laws to protect endangered wildlife. i like chimps. but no shootings! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Devil Posted September 25 #15 Share Posted September 25 On 9/21/2024 at 11:07 PM, pellinore said: It's always a problem when wild animals and humans come into conflict over resources. Elephants can devastate farms, big cats can terrorize villages, sharks can damage tourist industries, etc. I can't see an easy solution- conservationists side with the animals, but the people on the sharp end have a problem to deal with. they fight each other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
openozy Posted September 25 #16 Share Posted September 25 7 hours ago, Green Devil said: i like chimps. but no shootings! Neither do I but it's the only way to protect them. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Devil Posted September 27 #17 Share Posted September 27 (edited) On 9/26/2024 at 12:18 AM, openozy said: Neither do I but it's the only way to protect them. i disagree.no shootings. Edited September 27 by Green Devil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
openozy Posted September 28 #18 Share Posted September 28 10 hours ago, Green Devil said: i disagree.no shootings. I don't think giving them a stern talking to will work. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Devil Posted September 28 #19 Share Posted September 28 11 hours ago, openozy said: I don't think giving them a stern talking to will work. it could work. but no shootings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
openozy Posted September 28 #20 Share Posted September 28 9 hours ago, Green Devil said: it could work. but no shootings. It's either shoot the poachers or they kill the chimps. Chimps are endangered, humans are overpopulated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abramelin Posted September 30 #21 Share Posted September 30 On 9/29/2024 at 1:13 AM, openozy said: It's either shoot the poachers or they kill the chimps. Chimps are endangered, humans are overpopulated. Sell the skinned corpses of the poachers on their markets. Chopped up and unrecognizable as the humans they once were, and tell everyone it's bushmeat. Problem solved. I'll ask Trump if that can be arranged as soon he is president. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Devil Posted October 1 #22 Share Posted October 1 23 hours ago, Abramelin said: Sell the skinned corpses of the poachers on their markets. Chopped up and unrecognizable as the humans they once were, and tell everyone it's bushmeat. Problem solved. I'll ask Trump if that can be arranged as soon he is president. i'm sure you're kidding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abramelin Posted October 1 #23 Share Posted October 1 15 minutes ago, Green Devil said: i'm sure you're kidding. I'm glad you understood that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Devil Posted October 1 #24 Share Posted October 1 7 minutes ago, Abramelin said: I'm glad you understood that. 🙂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Devil Posted October 3 #25 Share Posted October 3 On 9/29/2024 at 12:13 AM, openozy said: It's either shoot the poachers or they kill the chimps. Chimps are endangered, humans are overpopulated. no shootings please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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