GOD wants to emancipate humanity by showing himself

[Great Old Man]

Christians should not be obsessed with fortune-telling, fate, astronomy, or astrology.
The more you obsess, the more you become a slave to fate.

Tablet of Destiny = The Mark of the Beast

It's not just humans who are not free from the tablet of destiny,It includes all the gods of the desire realm, Greek gods, Sumerian gods, Egyptian gods, and Chinese gods.Tablet of Destiny = The Mark of the Beast
= God sent Jesus Christ, His only begotten Son, to free those bound by fate.

And while reading Sumerian clay tablets, I discovered that
before the great flood occurred, there were continuous good harvests, and humanity enjoyed material abundance like today.

It seems that God fattens humans like pigs before bringing destruction upon them, just to eat them later.War, fighting, and struggle might actually be far from destruction...Artificial peace... artificial abundance... like the residents of Troy saying "good, good" and then falling in a day when the city gates open. That's what it means.

[Ell]

Alzheimer's? Or stroke victim?

[Sir Wearer of Hats]

5 hours ago, Ell said:

Alzheimer's? Or stroke victim?

Well lubricated?

[Alchopwn]

12 hours ago, Great Old Man said:

Christians should not be obsessed with fortune-telling, fate, astronomy, or astrology.
The more you obsess, the more you become a slave to fate.

Actually it should depend on which Christian sect you belong to whether you should obsess over fortune telling.  Calvinists, for example, should definitely consult fortune tellers, as they know Predestination is true. 

12 hours ago, Great Old Man said:

Tablet of Destiny = The Mark of the Beast

What?  So it isn't barcodes?  It's some ancient Sumerian mythical magical item held by the god Enlil?  Who knew?

12 hours ago, Great Old Man said:

It's not just humans who are not free from the tablet of destiny,It includes all the gods of the desire realm,

Nice how you just slid some Buddhism into the mix there...  Desire Realm ?  Christianity doesn't acknowledge such a thing.  That's heresy, and certainly not part of any Christian scripture.

12 hours ago, Great Old Man said:

Greek gods, Sumerian gods, Egyptian gods, and Chinese gods.Tablet of Destiny = The Mark of the Beast
= God sent Jesus Christ, His only begotten Son, to free those bound by fate.

Well, given what happened to Jesus, he isn't much of a role model for being a success in life.  Perhaps he might have lived longer if he consulted a fortune teller? 🤣

12 hours ago, Great Old Man said:

And while reading Sumerian clay tablets, I discovered that
before the great flood occurred, there were continuous good harvests, and humanity enjoyed material abundance like today.

Where did you learn Cuneiform?  I only ask as I may have been teaching you, if you went to Princeton.

12 hours ago, Great Old Man said:

It seems that God fattens humans like pigs before bringing destruction upon them, just to eat them later.War, fighting, and struggle might actually be far from destruction...Artificial peace... artificial abundance... like the residents of Troy saying "good, good" and then falling in a day when the city gates open. That's what it means.

That doesn't sound like a very good thing for an allegedly benign god to do.  You make God sound like some sort of monster, not a loving protector of Humanity.

[+OverSword]

13 hours ago, Great Old Man said:

Christians should not be obsessed with fortune-telling, fate, astronomy, or astrology.
The more you obsess, the more you become a slave to fate.

Tablet of Destiny = The Mark of the Beast

It's not just humans who are not free from the tablet of destiny,It includes all the gods of the desire realm, Greek gods, Sumerian gods, Egyptian gods, and Chinese gods.Tablet of Destiny = The Mark of the Beast
= God sent Jesus Christ, His only begotten Son, to free those bound by fate.

And while reading Sumerian clay tablets, I discovered that
before the great flood occurred, there were continuous good harvests, and humanity enjoyed material abundance like today.

It seems that God fattens humans like pigs before bringing destruction upon them, just to eat them later.War, fighting, and struggle might actually be far from destruction...Artificial peace... artificial abundance... like the residents of Troy saying "good, good" and then falling in a day when the city gates open. That's what it means.

Interesting thoughts.

[Kenemet]

Sadly, the title made me think of some sort of supernatural flasher.

I'm also very skeptical of claims of reading clay tablets.  I realize it *can* be done and there are people who can do it, but a sudden reworking of "what they say" that doesn't match with the records that they and the others left isn't really believable.

[Green Devil]

On 9/24/2024 at 2:36 AM, Great Old Man said:

Christians should not be obsessed with fortune-telling, fate, astronomy, or astrology.
The more you obsess, the more you become a slave to fate.

Tablet of Destiny = The Mark of the Beast

It's not just humans who are not free from the tablet of destiny,It includes all the gods of the desire realm, Greek gods, Sumerian gods, Egyptian gods, and Chinese gods.Tablet of Destiny = The Mark of the Beast
= God sent Jesus Christ, His only begotten Son, to free those bound by fate.

And while reading Sumerian clay tablets, I discovered that
before the great flood occurred, there were continuous good harvests, and humanity enjoyed material abundance like today.

It seems that God fattens humans like pigs before bringing destruction upon them, just to eat them later.War, fighting, and struggle might actually be far from destruction...Artificial peace... artificial abundance... like the residents of Troy saying "good, good" and then falling in a day when the city gates open. That's what it means.

how god brings desctruction? 

why?

[Green Devil]

i believe in god. he doesn't bring destruction.

[Great Old Man]

On 9/24/2024 at 11:27 PM, Alchopwn said:

Actually it should depend on which Christian sect you belong to whether you should obsess over fortune telling.  Calvinists, for example, should definitely consult fortune tellers, as they know Predestination is true. 

What?  So it isn't barcodes?  It's some ancient Sumerian mythical magical item held by the god Enlil?  Who knew?

Nice how you just slid some Buddhism into the mix there...  Desire Realm ?  Christianity doesn't acknowledge such a thing.  That's heresy, and certainly not part of any Christian scripture.

Well, given what happened to Jesus, he isn't much of a role model for being a success in life.  Perhaps he might have lived longer if he consulted a fortune teller? 🤣

Where did you learn Cuneiform?  I only ask as I may have been teaching you, if you went to Princeton.

That doesn't sound like a very good thing for an allegedly benign god to do.  You make God sound like some sort of monster, not a loving protector of Humanity.

I learn Cuneiform from  ANET(Ancient Near Eastern Texts Relating to the Old Testament) which is published by Princeton.

Actually, I don't think my translation is accurate. In Asia, the creation god (God) and the ephemeral god (angel) are called gods linguistically the same.

God in the Bible is the same as you said, but the concept of God I'm talking about is close to the Greek god.

[Great Old Man]

6 minutes ago, Green Devil said:

how god brings desctruction? 

why?

According to ANET, Enril had a periodic good harvest to deceive mankind, according to the clay tablets.

[Green Devil]

1 minute ago, Great Old Man said:

According to ANET, Enril had a periodic good harvest to deceive mankind, according to the clay tablets.

who is enril?

[Great Old Man]

Just now, Green Devil said:

who is enril?

Oops, translation mistake.

Sumerian God, Enlil.

[Green Devil]

1 minute ago, Great Old Man said:

Oops, translation mistake.

Sumerian God, Enlil.

i'm christian. didn't know this god.

[Kenemet]

5 minutes ago, Great Old Man said:

I learn Cuneiform from  ANET(Ancient Near Eastern Texts Relating to the Old Testament) which is published by Princeton.

Actually, I don't think my translation is accurate. In Asia, the creation god (God) and the ephemeral god (angel) are called gods linguistically the same.

God in the Bible is the same as you said, but the concept of God I'm talking about is close to the Greek god.

I think you're going to run into problems if you examine the beliefs of one people (Sumerians) through the lens of a much later belief system from an entirely different culture (Christianity, Buddhism, etc.)  The Sumerian deities seem to (in some cases) treat humans like convenient slaves or robots -- different from the way that the Greek deities treated humans and different from the way that the Egyptian deities treated humans.

There are so many cultures (some of them long gone) and so many deities and they're all mutually contradictory. 

[Great Old Man]

14 minutes ago, Green Devil said:

i'm christian. didn't know this god.

yea, even I personally believe that Christian God is only true God. Clay Tablet has that record in it. (contrived abundance)

[Great Old Man]

13 minutes ago, Kenemet said:

I think you're going to run into problems if you examine the beliefs of one people (Sumerians) through the lens of a much later belief system from an entirely different culture (Christianity, Buddhism, etc.)  The Sumerian deities seem to (in some cases) treat humans like convenient slaves or robots -- different from the way that the Greek deities treated humans and different from the way that the Egyptian deities treated humans.

There are so many cultures (some of them long gone) and so many deities and they're all mutually contradictory. 

I admit that the Christian God is true when you think about the various beliefs, but in a polytheistic system of God that's worse than that, I strongly think that even they're bound by fate, such as Odin who can't escape Ragnarök, Zeus who can't escape from fate.

It reminds of me that so-called god in many belief is also bounded- immortality. (Look a picture of a Golden Thread)

https://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Greek_Mythology/Minor_Gods/Fates

There's a phrase in Greek mythology that suggests that the Greek god also had a system called the Tablet of Destiny. (Aeneas' Escape from Troy and the Foundation of Rome, Caesar and Aphrodite, Ovidius metamorphoses)

https://brill.com/display/book/9789004528871/BP000018.xml

Thus the father spoke: “Alone, daughter, do you prepare to move unconquerable Fate? You yourself are allowed to enter the dwelling of the three sisters: there you will see, with their massive structure, the archives of the world, made of bronze and solid iron, which fear neither the crashing of the sky nor the anger of the lightning bolt or any destruction, being safe and eternal; there you will find the fates of your descendants engraved on everlasting adamant. I read them myself and noted them in my mind and will relate them, lest you be even now unknowing of the future.”

[Kenemet]

3 hours ago, Great Old Man said:

yea, even I personally believe that Christian God is only true God. Clay Tablet has that record in it. (contrived abundance)

You are welcome to your belief.

I personally prefer the Egyptian gods.  They're generally very kind to those who are kind to others and they're far older than the Christian gods.

[Ell]

12 hours ago, Great Old Man said:

I admit that

Please do not shout.

[Alchopwn]

On 9/26/2024 at 2:16 AM, Great Old Man said:

I learn Cuneiform from  ANET(Ancient Near Eastern Texts Relating to the Old Testament) which is published by Princeton.

I may well have proofread the document in question before publishing.🙂

On 9/26/2024 at 2:16 AM, Great Old Man said:

Actually, I don't think my translation is accurate. In Asia, the creation god (God) and the ephemeral god (angel) are called gods linguistically the same.

That entirely depends on which language we are using.  As you are likely well aware, there are several languages that use cuneiform, including Sumeriam, Akkadian, Eblaite, Elamite, Hittite (my favorite), Hurrian, Persian, Palaic, Aramaic, Luwian, and Uratian.  I came at cuneiform first from Aramaic.  I wouldn't suggest that these terms are generally of the same meaning.  Beliefs in these areas were far from homogenous, and while there were broad similarities, an angel is not the same as a deity, and may well refer to something quite different.  For example, an angel may well mean a Lammashtu, a great winged bull with a man's head, who serves as a servant of the gods, and seems to be the origin of all angels, including the Hebrew  use of the term.  A good translator of these old texts is required to have a deep understanding of the cultures involved, as accurate translation is impossible without one.  It's a calling.  Don't be too quick to dismiss work which some poor schmoe likely sweated blood over.

On 9/26/2024 at 2:16 AM, Great Old Man said:

God in the Bible is the same as you said, but the concept of God I'm talking about is close to the Greek god.

Have you been watching Kaos?  I am enjoying Jeff Goldbloom as Zeus.

[Sir Wearer of Hats]

On 9/26/2024 at 2:10 AM, Green Devil said:

i believe in god. he doesn't bring destruction.

Ask Noah. 
Ot Lott. 
Or The Canaanites. 
Or the people of Jericho. 

[Green Devil]

4 hours ago, Sir Wearer of Hats said:

Ask Noah. 
Ot Lott. 
Or The Canaanites. 
Or the people of Jericho. 

ask them?what?

[Sir Wearer of Hats]

7 hours ago, Green Devil said:

ask them?what?

Whether or not God brings Destruction. 

[pellinore]

The only real gods are Nammu and An. The birth of the human world was in the fertile crescent. All other gods are false.

Sumerian religion - Wikipedia

Edited September 28 by pellinore

[Obviousman]

[+joc]

On 9/25/2024 at 11:10 AM, Green Devil said:

i believe in god. he doesn't bring destruction.

When  you say you believe in god...what god?  Zeus?  The God of The Old Testament?  God of the OT most certainly brought and promises to bring destruction.  Do does Allah.  What god are you referring to that you believe in?