The secret code of french architecture

[Frenchman]

Good morning.
There is an architectural coding in the monuments of France. Castles and cathedrals contain secret messages that can be found. In this presentation video, we understand that our study leads to two essential themes: the forgotten civilizations of Prehistory, such as Atlantis, and contacts with beings from elsewhere.
 

 

Edited September 24 by Frenchman

[Piney]

🙄 

Vivid imagination mate. 

[Windowpane]

4:37 (from video), discussing the Hall of Mirrors at Versailles:

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... a beautiful ceiling painted by Charles le Brun.  24 Atlanteans of Atlantis are painted on the ceiling.  Here, King Louis XIV is dressed in antique costume.  He has in his hand the trident of Neptune who is the god of Atlantis.  On the sides, there are two Atlanteans who are dressed only in a sheet.  In Old French, a sheet was called "un drap", and this word also meant a shroud; so are dressed in a shroud because the end of Atlantis is near.

Surprisingly, Nicolas Milovanovic, author of the official Versailles Hall of Mirrors page, has a completely different interpretation.  He shows that le Brun depicts Louis involved in various victorious battles, military victories, and other initiatives.  This one [no. 15] shows the restoration of navigation (1663):

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[Trans.] The king is seated on a golden throne; he points with his left hand to bales of merchandise. Under pressure from Colbert, Louis XIV strove to restore the lustre of the French navy, both civil and military. Without doubt, the composition evokes the creation of the East and West India companies in 1664.

Le roi est assis sur un trône en or ; il désigne de la main gauche des ballots de marchandises. Sous l’impulsion de Colbert, Louis XIV s’efforça de redonner du lustre à la marine française, tant civile que militaire. La composition évoque certainement la création des compagnies des Indes orientales et occidentales en 1664. On peut donc s’étonner de la date de 1663 qui figure dans l’inscription dans l’état Boileau-Racine. C’est très probablement une erreur, ce que démontre le dessin que Jean-Baptiste Massé réalisa d’après la peinture : on y lit la date de 1664 (dessin conservé au musée du Louvre, inv. 30916). Pourtant, c’est la date de 1663 qui est reprise dans la gravure réalisée d’après le dessin et c’est cette date qui figure encore dans l’inscription actuelle (la date correcte, 1664, est lisible en couche sous-jacente dans le décor).

So not too much about Atlantis or Atlanteans in this interpretation ...

Le Brun.

Louis XIV.

[Alchopwn]

If you had said Freemasonry, AMORC or Hermeticism, I might have agreed.  But flying saucers?

[MrsGently]

3 hours ago, Frenchman said:

Good morning.
There is an architectural coding in the monuments of France. Castles and cathedrals contain secret messages that can be found. In this presentation video, we understand that our study leads to two essential themes: the forgotten civilizations of Prehistory, such as Atlantis, and contacts with beings from elsewhere.
 

 

Ah!?! Château de Chambord! Mhm that's for sure an architecture bomb. The double spiral staircase in the donjon, was it da Vinci?

I'm not going to watch sorry, but I congratulate you on being brave and pursuing your own ideas. Alas Neptune as god of Atlantis is somewhat far fetched. His wife Salacia(?) is in the salt water business he's more the river, springs and horses guy.

[Abramelin]

3 hours ago, Frenchman said:

Good morning.
There is an architectural coding in the monuments of France. Castles and cathedrals contain secret messages that can be found. In this presentation video, we understand that our study leads to two essential themes: the forgotten civilizations of Prehistory, such as Atlantis, and contacts with beings from elsewhere.
 

 

Love the accent, Frenchman.

But because of it, I understand nearly half of what you're saying. I'm Dutch, btw.

Another 'but'... as soon as you mentioned Cayce, I stopped watching the video.

Cayce was a 'colon talker', also known as 'channeler' and a source of great fantasies about Atlantis.

 

Ok, I wish you good luck on this site.

Edited September 24 by Abramelin

[Windowpane]

32 minutes ago, MrsGently said:

 

...

Neptune as god of Atlantis is somewhat far fetched. 

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Well ... Neptune was the Roman god of the sea, Roman counterpart of Poseidon, who was the Greek god of the sea, and also of Atlantis, where (according to Plato, who, as we know, made the whole thing up) he married a mortal woman called Cleito.

[Piney]

11 minutes ago, Windowpane said:

Well... Neptune was the Roman god of the sea, Roman counterpart of Poseidon, who was the Greek god of the sea, and also of Atlantis, where (according to Plato, who, as we know, made the whole thing up) he married a mortal woman called Cleito.

Poseidon was originally rivers and horses. 

[MrsGently]

50 minutes ago, Windowpane said:

Well ... Neptune was the Roman god of the sea, Roman counterpart of Poseidon, who was the Greek god of the sea, and also of Atlantis, where (according to Plato, who, as we know, made the whole thing up) he married a mortal woman called Cleito.

Well Poseidon is more father of Atlantis though than "god", he got the island as playground to father children with mortal women, ... Neptune didn't because they are not the same, they developed out of different origins.

 

In my opinion that's what Plato really wanted to "demonstrate" with this story:

The hot-blooded (like their horse-father), half-god, progressive (with all them futuristic gadgets and ideas) and expansionary Atlanteans got so problematic, at a time before Plato's contemporary Athens, the Ancient Athens, even existed.

And what's so great about Athens in Plato's comparison is that it's all orderly and calm and traditional etc and if someone's ideas get too modern they get ostracised.

 

Poseidon wasn't that popular in Greece. More one to appease and fear.

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[Windowpane]

22 minutes ago, Piney said:

Poseidon was originally rivers and horses. 

"sea, storms, earthquakes and horses" - and apparently "the terms for horses and springs are related in the Greek language" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poseidon

It's interesting that Plato wasn't so overawed by Poseidon's status that he didn't borrow him for his (Plato's) own fiction-related purposes.  Perhaps other mythographers had been doing the same sort of thing since time immemorial.

[Thanos5150]

58 minutes ago, Piney said:

Poseidon was originally rivers and horses. 

I thought it was hookers and blow. 

[Trelane]

On 9/24/2024 at 8:17 AM, Frenchman said:

Good morning.
There is an architectural coding in the monuments of France. Castles and cathedrals contain secret messages that can be found. In this presentation video, we understand that our study leads to two essential themes: the forgotten civilizations of Prehistory, such as Atlantis, and contacts with beings from elsewhere.
 

Ohh no. No, no, no.

Oh dear....

[iAlrakis]

2 hours ago, Trelane said:

Ohh no. No, no, no.

Oh dear....

It's true.  And the Catacombs of Paris were created to hide all skeletal evidence between boring normal humans :-)

[Windowpane]

9 minutes ago, iAlrakis said:

It's true.  And the Catacombs of Paris were created to hide all skeletal evidence between boring normal humans 🙂

Ah, but what about the Catacombs of Helen ...

[Kenemet]

5 hours ago, Windowpane said:

Ah, but what about the Catacombs of Helen ...

Helen's cat combing led to fewer hairballs but fluff all over the fabled Towers of Troy.

[Windowpane]

9 hours ago, Kenemet said:

Helen's cat combing led to fewer hairballs but fluff all over the fabled Towers of Troy.

We know that the AE liked cats because of all the mummified remains that have been found.  But was there any tradition of household pets in Ancient Greece and Anatolia?  Dogs, cats, hamsters ... ?

[jethrofloyd]

On 9/24/2024 at 2:17 PM, Frenchman said:

Good morning.
There is an architectural coding in the monuments of France. Castles and cathedrals contain secret messages that can be found. In this presentation video, we understand that our study leads to two essential themes: the forgotten civilizations of Prehistory, such as Atlantis, and contacts with beings from elsewhere.
 

 

What is this?! The new version of 'The Da Vinci Code' book from 2003?

[Thanos5150]

6 hours ago, Windowpane said:

We know that the AE liked cats because of all the mummified remains that have been found.  But was there any tradition of household pets in Ancient Greece and Anatolia?  Dogs, cats, hamsters ... ?

Of course: Dogs & Their Collars in Ancient Greece

 

Edited September 28 by Thanos5150

[Windowpane]

24 minutes ago, Thanos5150 said:

Of course: Dogs & Their Collars in Ancient Greece

 

Thank you .... I think ...

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Among the most popular breeds in ancient Greece was the Alopekis ("small fox") which is depicted on a ceramic vase dated to c. 3000 BCE. This is also most likely the dog featured on the famous grave stele of a young girl named Melisto of the 4th century BCE (although the dog has also been identified as a Melitan, the modern Maltese). The stele shows the girl, holding a doll in one hand and a bird in the other which she seems to be offering with a gentle smile to the small dog jumping up to greet her.

Not exactly the outcome one might have hoped for ...

[Thanos5150]

10 minutes ago, Windowpane said:

Not exactly the outcome one might have hoped for ...

Sorry, not sure what you mean. You asked: "But was there any tradition of household pets in Ancient Greece and Anatolia?"

Melisto's grave stele is not unique in representing the deceased with a favorite pet dog, however, as this practice was fairly common. Another grave stele shows a young girl playing with her dog and another depicts a boy playing catch with his. 

Edited September 28 by Thanos5150

[Kenemet]

6 hours ago, Windowpane said:

We know that the AE liked cats because of all the mummified remains that have been found.  But was there any tradition of household pets in Ancient Greece and Anatolia?  Dogs, cats, hamsters ... ?

Yes, we do have evidence of them (in Greece, there's a number of vases and dishes depicting pet dogs.  The last information I saw was that there is a single instance of an apparently tamed cat on Crete that is the oldest evidence of cat as a pet, but that genetically our modern house moggies come mainly from Egypt.

We were watching a NatGeo on cats the other night and the claim was made that the Oriental Shorthair (Siamese types) had a slightly different origin (mixing with their local small wild felines (most of what they presented is echoed in this paper Lyons, Leslie A., Jennifer Dawn Kurushima, and J. D. Kurushima. "A short natural history of the cat and its relationship with humans." The Cat: Clinical Medicine and Management; Little, SE, Ed.; WB Saunders: Saint Louis, MO, USA (2012): 1254-1262. https://www.academia.edu/download/37869479/A_Short_Natural_History_of_the_Cat__Lyons_Book_excerpt.pdf)

[Windowpane]

On 9/28/2024 at 4:38 PM, Thanos5150 said:

Sorry, not sure what you mean.

Sorry, I should perhaps have been clearer.  I was trying to indicate that I wasn't too keen on the idea of the young girl giving (feeding?) the bird to the dog ... 

Although I suppose live mice and rats are fed to pythons.

[jethrofloyd]

The Man in the Iron Mask 

When we already have a word French in the title....I wonder is anyone here interested to the famous French mystery of the "Man in the Iron Mask"?

Who was he? It is still an unidentified man who was a prisoner during the reign of King Louis XIV (1643-1715).

He was  prisoner who was kept always masked. He was at first time imprisoned in a few prisons around France, I believe. And then later he arrived at the most famous French prison at the time, Bastille on September 1698.

The most people and historians today believe it was en man with a name Eustace Dauger. But, on the other hand meny believe it is just a fake name.

Why was he so important, and what he was done in the past to need to wore a velvet/iron mask all the time? Was he maybe unknown brother/half brother of the king Louis XIV who was kept away from a throne on that way?

 

[Sir Wearer of Hats]

3 hours ago, jethrofloyd said:

The Man in the Iron Mask 

When we already have a word French in the title....I wonder is anyone here interested to the famous French mystery of the "Man in the Iron Mask"?

Who was he? It is still an unidentified man who was a prisoner during the reign of King Louis XIV (1643-1715).

He was  prisoner who was kept always masked. He was at first time imprisoned in a few prisons around France, I believe. And then later he arrived at the most famous French prison at the time, Bastille on September 1698.

The most people and historians today believe it was en man with a name Eustace Dauger. But, on the other hand meny believe it is just a fake name.

Why was he so important, and what he was done in the past to need to wore a velvet/iron mask all the time? Was he maybe unknown brother/half brother of the king Louis XIV who was kept away from a throne on that way?

 

There are several theories, and one that I find intriguing is that he was the younger twin of Louis, and French thinking at the time was that the second born twin was conceived first and therefore the elder of the two. 
 

Another is that he was the guy who ferreted away some of the king’s fortune/secrets etc and he was kept alive but incognito so he couldn’t be able to access that loot himself but they could find out where it was if/when needed.