Georgia judge declares state’s abortion ban unconstitutional

[MrAnderson]

https://www.cnn.com/2024/09/30/politics/georgia-abortion-ban/index.html

CNN — 

A Georgia judge has struck down the state’s six-week abortion ban, declaring it unconstitutional.

In a ruling issued on Monday, Judge Robert McBurney said Georgia’s Living Infants Fairness and Equality Act, or LIFE Act, infringes on a woman’s state constitutional rights.

The legal challenge was brought by SisterSong Women of Color Reproductive Collective against the state of Georgia.

 

 

Edited Tuesday at 07:01 PM by MrAnderson

[Buzz_Light_Year]

Well this is the Judge's second attempt on this law with the first one being thrown out by Georgia's Supreme Court.

https://apnews.com/article/georgia-abortion-law-struck-down-632db7d5de815efa18aea52dadbfc59b

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Fulton County Superior Court Judge Robert McBurney wrote in his order that the law violates Georgia’s Constitution, finding that “liberty in Georgia includes in its meaning, in its protections, and in its bundle of rights the power of a woman to control her own body, to decide what happens to it and in it, and to reject state interference with her healthcare choices.”

Looks like the judge will lose this judgement also. 

[MrAnderson]

11 minutes ago, Buzz_Light_Year said:

Well this is the Judge's second attempt on this law with the first one being thrown out by Georgia's Supreme Court.

https://apnews.com/article/georgia-abortion-law-struck-down-632db7d5de815efa18aea52dadbfc59b

Looks like the judge will lose this judgement also. 

Need to wait and see as you don't know if the judge will succeed this time.

Edited Tuesday at 07:21 PM by MrAnderson

[Hawken]

It all boils down to not wanting the responsibility to raise a child. Rape, incest and the woman's life in danger is a very small percentage.

[Buzz_Light_Year]

2 minutes ago, MrAnderson said:

You don't know how this will go. Need to wait and see.

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“liberty in Georgia includes in its meaning, in its protections, and in its bundle of rights the power of a woman to control her own body, to decide what happens to it and in it, and to reject state interference with her healthcare choices.”

Too vague!

[MrAnderson]

1 hour ago, Hawken said:

It all boils down to not wanting the responsibility to raise a child. Rape, incest and the woman's life in danger is a very small percentage.

Some people are not ready to have a child and this is something we need to realise and accept as reality. Of course the state should not force women to have kids when these pregnancies are a result of rape, incest, or when the life of the woman is under danger.

[pellinore]

2 hours ago, Hawken said:

It all boils down to not wanting the responsibility to raise a child. Rape, incest and the woman's life in danger is a very small percentage.

Oh good, so they can bring them round to your house and you will look after them? Excellent! That's solved all the problems of poverty, mental health, poor choices, etc. Just take the babies to the people who have a sense of responsibility like yourself. It really is admirable, and you should be applauded. When do you want the first one?

[MrAnderson]

14 minutes ago, pellinore said:

Oh good, so they can bring them round to your house and you will look after them? Excellent! That's solved all the problems of poverty, mental health, poor choices, etc. Just take the babies to the people who have a sense of responsibility like yourself. It really is admirable, and you should be applauded. When do you want the first one?

It's a rather complex situation where everything has to be taken into account. The rights of a woman and the rights of the unborn baby depending on how many months the woman is into the pregnancy.

[Tatetopa]

2 hours ago, Hawken said:

It all boils down to not wanting the responsibility to raise a child. Rape, incest and the woman's life in danger is a very small percentage.

That is probably true, at least they did not want a child at that point in time or with that person.

[ExpandMyMind]

3 hours ago, Hawken said:

It all boils down to not wanting the responsibility to raise a child

Yes. It's this silly concept called autonomy. Pesky little critter.

That judge is a legend.

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Women are not some piece of collectively owned community property the disposition of which is decided by majority vote.

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… [T]he liberty of privacy means that they alone should choose whether they serve as human incubators for the five months leading up to viability. It is not for a legislator, a judge, or a Commander from The Handmaid’s Tale to tell these women what to do with their bodies during this period when the fetus cannot survive outside the womb any more so than society could – or should – force them to serve as a human tissue bank or to give up a kidney for the benefit of another.

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… [L]iberty in Georgia includes in its meaning, in its protections, and in its bundle of rights the power of a woman to control her own body, to decide what happens to it and in it, and to reject state interference with her healthcare choices.

See? Silly concept indeed.

[MrAnderson]

2 minutes ago, ExpandMyMind said:

Yes. It's this silly concept called autonomy. Pesky little critter.

That judge is a legend.

See? Silly concept indeed.

I don't know whether the judge is a legend or not but he is at least reasonable, I will argue that 6weeks into the pregnancy is too early and a woman may not even realise she is pregnant in the first few weeks. I tend to agree with states that allow abortion in the range between 16-24 weeks but I am not in favor of late stage abortions.

[Hawken]

1 hour ago, pellinore said:

Oh good, so they can bring them round to your house and you will look after them? Excellent! That's solved all the problems of poverty, mental health, poor choices, etc. Just take the babies to the people who have a sense of responsibility like yourself. It really is admirable, and you should be applauded. When do you want the first one?

Why do people pay a vet to spay or neuter their pet? Pregnancy prevention. There's a procedure for men and women also.

It's called Vasectomy or Tubal Litigation.

[Michelle]

3 hours ago, Hawken said:

Why do people pay a vet to spay or neuter their pet? Pregnancy prevention. There's a procedure for men and women also.

It's called Vasectomy or Tubal Litigation.

My mom had her tubes tied and had me. When I had my tubes tied I stayed on the pill until I got rid of everything. I was not going to have a kid! I couldn't in good conscience have an abortion and tubal ligations don't always work.

[Hawken]

8 minutes ago, Michelle said:

My mom had her tubes tied and had me. When I had my tubes tied I stayed on the pill until I got rid of everything. I was not going to have a kid! I couldn't in good conscience have an abortion and tubal ligations don't always work.

Nothing is ever 100%. But it could reduce the chances.

[psyche101]

On 10/2/2024 at 5:23 AM, Hawken said:

It all boils down to not wanting the responsibility to raise a child. Rape, incest and the woman's life in danger is a very small percentage.

Not quite.

It really boils down to the individual situation which is quite frankly none of your fricking business.

[MrAnderson]

On 10/2/2024 at 3:22 AM, Michelle said:

My mom had her tubes tied and had me. When I had my tubes tied I stayed on the pill until I got rid of everything. I was not going to have a kid! I couldn't in good conscience have an abortion and tubal ligations don't always work.

An abortion is a very difficult decision and it's up to the individual to decide within the limits of the law. Even though I do recognise the right women have to an abortion on many of the states here in the US but also in other parts of the world, it's an issue which opinions are divided because it involves the life of another person which the woman has to terminate. I am against late stage abortions and I think the limit for ethical reasons should be set at 24 weeks. Usually the fetus become medically viable after that period and I find it very difficult to argue in favor of abortions after this period. I am also against trivialising ambitions where young women think it's ok to play around but if anything goes wrong there is always the safety net of having an abortion.

Edited Thursday at 12:11 PM by MrAnderson

[preacherman76]

On 10/1/2024 at 4:45 PM, MrAnderson said:

Some people are not ready to have a child and this is something we need to realise and accept as reality. Of course the state should not force women to have kids when these pregnancies are a result of rape, incest, or when the life of the woman is under danger.

You mean some women are not ready to have children. Men will be forced to be held accountable as they have for many decades. Not many seem to have a problem with that. 

[MrAnderson]

2 hours ago, preacherman76 said:

You mean some women are not ready to have children. Men will be forced to be held accountable as they have for many decades. Not many seem to have a problem with that. 

Yes, some women are not ready to have children and also some men are not ready to support them or start a family with the women that will be having children with. So in that scenario is best not to bring others around who will be miserable and unwanted. That's one of the realities of life.

Edited Thursday at 04:25 PM by MrAnderson