WorldMysteries Posted October 4 #1 Share Posted October 4 The topic of alien abductions is quite fascinating and has been the subject of many debates and studies. While there are numerous reports from individuals claiming to have been abducted by extraterrestrial beings, the scientific community generally remains skeptical. Scientific Explanations: 1. Sleep Paralysis: This condition occurs when a person is between stages of wakefulness and sleep, leading to a temporary inability to move or speak. It can be accompanied by hallucinations, which might be interpreted as alien encounters. 2. False Memories: Some psychologists suggest that suggestibility and the creation of false memories can explain many abduction claims. People might misinterpret or distort real events, especially under hypnosis or during therapy. 3. Temporal Lobe Sensitivity: Increased activity in the temporal lobe of the brain has been linked to paranormal experiences, including feelings of alien presence. While these explanations provide plausible reasons for the experiences reported by many, the lack of concrete evidence makes it difficult to confirm the reality of alien abductions. NASA's recent report on UFO sightings also found no conclusive evidence of extraterrestrial involvement. https://theconversation.com/some-scientific-explanations-for-alien-abduction-that-arent-so-out-of-this-world-71255 https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-66812332 https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alien_abduction https://www.bps.org.uk/research-digest/what-leads-people-believe-they-have-been-abducted-aliens https://www.skeptic.com/reading_room/abducted-scientific-explanations-of-alien-abduction-experience/ 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawken Posted October 4 #2 Share Posted October 4 What has me wondering is these people that claim abductions seem to have similar experiences to each other. Sighting an orb in the sky, car won't start or floated out the window, strange beings take them aboard a craft, medical procedures performed on abductee, missing time. And most of entities described are short, grey w large eyes. If this is sleep paralysis or hallucinations. Then why do these abductees describe similar episodes to each other? 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WorldMysteries Posted October 4 Author #3 Share Posted October 4 13 minutes ago, Hawken said: What has me wondering is these people that claim abductions seem to have similar experiences to each other. Sighting an orb in the sky, car won't start or floated out the window, strange beings take them aboard a craft, medical procedures performed on abductee, missing time. And most of entities described are short, grey w large eyes. If this is sleep paralysis or hallucinations. Then why do these abductees describe similar episodes to each other? Cultural Influence. The portrayal of aliens in popular media, such as movies, TV shows, and books, often shapes people's expectations and imaginations. For example, the "grey alien" with a large head and big eyes became iconic after being popularized in the 1960s and 70s. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawken Posted October 4 #4 Share Posted October 4 1 minute ago, WorldMysteries said: Cultural Influence. The portrayal of aliens in popular media, such as movies, TV shows, and books, often shapes people's expectations and imaginations. For example, the "grey alien" with a large head and big eyes became iconic after being popularized in the 1960s and 70s. There were other types of aliens in movies such as Star Wars, Star Trek, Predator etc. But no one claimed abduction by these types. It is always the greys. And you hardly see old sci-fi movies from the 50s & 60s today where young people could be influenced. Nobody ever made claim of being abducted by a Wookie or Klingon. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jethrofloyd Posted October 4 #5 Share Posted October 4 I was abducted by aliens. They made me wash my hands, clean my room, and eat my vegetables. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrAnderson Posted October 4 #6 Share Posted October 4 3 hours ago, jethrofloyd said: I was abducted by aliens. They made me wash my hands, clean my room, and eat my vegetables. There is no point in trying to troll the thread or make fun of people who could have been abducted or had some sort of sleep paralysis or other conditions. It's a rather serious topic for discussion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrAnderson Posted October 4 #7 Share Posted October 4 5 hours ago, Hawken said: What has me wondering is these people that claim abductions seem to have similar experiences to each other. Sighting an orb in the sky, car won't start or floated out the window, strange beings take them aboard a craft, medical procedures performed on abductee, missing time. And most of entities described are short, grey w large eyes. If this is sleep paralysis or hallucinations. Then why do these abductees describe similar episodes to each other? If you take a look at what John Mack said while examining the alleged abductees. He concluded that these people are genuine are telling the truth either because they experienced these events or believe they have experienced these events. He found no history of chronic mental and psychiatric disorders in any of these people and in a few words they were regarded as sane and genuine. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trelane Posted October 4 #8 Share Posted October 4 "Are Alien Abductions Real?" No. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hazzard Posted October 4 #9 Share Posted October 4 There is (new) very good research on this topic. This is from the National Center for Biotechnology and the British Psychological Society. "In their conclusions, the researchers note that people who believe they have been abducted by aliens may have problems with source monitoring — remembering how and when a memory is acquired. For example, someone may watch a movie featuring alien abduction, or even just otherworldly creatures, and years later when assessing an episode of sleep paralysis, recall that monster and incorrectly incorporate it into their supposed abduction experience. In other words, they forget the actual source of the memory, and glue together memory fragments that seem to fit — much in the same way that abductee participants incorporated significantly more never-presented words into their recall and recognition responses." https://www.bps.org.uk/research-digest/what-leads-people-believe-they-have-been-abducted-aliens https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/18834282/ "So why do people believe that they have been abducted by aliens when, presumably, they haven’t? Psychologists looking to answer this question have appealed to awareness during sleep paralysis (ASP) and accompanying hallucinations. During Rapid Eye Movement (REM) sleep, the sleeper is immobilized. In ASP, the sleeper wakes up before the paralysis has disappeared and is aware that they are unable to move. 75% of subjects will hallucinate whilst experiencing ASP.6 Abductees report a variety of these experiences; the hallucinations may be visual, including ‘lights, animals, strange figures, and demons’, or auditory including ‘heavy footsteps, humming or buzzing noises’.7 Several reports from abductees chime well with this explanation. Like this one... A male abductee awoke in the middle of the night seized with panic. He was entirely paralysed, and felt electricity shooting throughout his body. He felt his energy draining away from him. He could see several alien beings standing around his bed." https://www.birmingham.ac.uk/research/perspective/abducted-by-aliens And this from the Harvard Gazette. "He and his colleagues conclude, “a combination of pre-existing New Age beliefs, episodes of sleep paralysis, accompanied by hallucinations and hypnotic memory recovery may foster beliefs and memories that one has been abducted by space aliens.” https://news.harvard.edu/gazette/story/2003/02/alien-abduction-claims-examined-2/ Now, all you have to do is to ask yourselves - What seems more likely - That all these people are being abducted by space aliens in their flying saucers, and nobody around them noticed??!! ... or is there something else going on here? Logic and reason, people, use it. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Devil Posted October 4 #10 Share Posted October 4 10 hours ago, WorldMysteries said: The topic of alien abductions is quite fascinating and has been the subject of many debates and studies. While there are numerous reports from individuals claiming to have been abducted by extraterrestrial beings, the scientific community generally remains skeptical. Scientific Explanations: 1. Sleep Paralysis: This condition occurs when a person is between stages of wakefulness and sleep, leading to a temporary inability to move or speak. It can be accompanied by hallucinations, which might be interpreted as alien encounters. 2. False Memories: Some psychologists suggest that suggestibility and the creation of false memories can explain many abduction claims. People might misinterpret or distort real events, especially under hypnosis or during therapy. 3. Temporal Lobe Sensitivity: Increased activity in the temporal lobe of the brain has been linked to paranormal experiences, including feelings of alien presence. While these explanations provide plausible reasons for the experiences reported by many, the lack of concrete evidence makes it difficult to confirm the reality of alien abductions. NASA's recent report on UFO sightings also found no conclusive evidence of extraterrestrial involvement. https://theconversation.com/some-scientific-explanations-for-alien-abduction-that-arent-so-out-of-this-world-71255 https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-66812332 https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alien_abduction https://www.bps.org.uk/research-digest/what-leads-people-believe-they-have-been-abducted-aliens https://www.skeptic.com/reading_room/abducted-scientific-explanations-of-alien-abduction-experience/ 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hazzard Posted October 4 #11 Share Posted October 4 9 hours ago, Hawken said: There were other types of aliens in movies such as Star Wars, Star Trek, Predator etc. But no one claimed abduction by these types. It is always the greys. And you hardly see old sci-fi movies from the 50s & 60s today where young people could be influenced. Nobody ever made claim of being abducted by a Wookie or Klingon. If you would give a thousand people from around the world a pen and paper and ask them to draw an alien... how many do you think would think of and draw a Predator??! Nah dude... most of them would draw the classic Spielberg big head black eyes "grey" alien. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawken Posted October 4 #12 Share Posted October 4 4 hours ago, MrAnderson said: If you take a look at what John Mack said while examining the alleged abductees. He concluded that these people are genuine are telling the truth either because they experienced these events or believe they have experienced these events. He found no history of chronic mental and psychiatric disorders in any of these people and in a few words they were regarded as sane and genuine. Yes, he went out on a limb to say that whereas other doctors of his profession would deny it in fear of their careers being jeopardized. I bet a lot of doctors agree with Dr. Mack secretly. But won't admit it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saru Posted October 4 #13 Share Posted October 4 5 hours ago, MrAnderson said: There is no point in trying to troll the thread or make fun of people who could have been abducted or had some sort of sleep paralysis or other conditions. It's a rather serious topic for discussion. Leave the moderating to the moderators please - if you think someone's post is inappropriate, use the 'report' button. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piney Posted October 4 #14 Share Posted October 4 10 hours ago, WorldMysteries said: Cultural Influence. The portrayal of aliens in popular media, such as movies, TV shows, and books, often shapes people's expectations and imaginations. For example, the "grey alien" with a large head and big eyes became iconic after being popularized in the 1960s and 70s. It actually goes back to Aleister Crowley and H.G. Wells. Greys also fit the description of Mind Snails in Vodou and Sleep Ghosts among Algonquians which are subconscious thoughtforms. I think it's embedded in humanity's psyche. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Resume Posted October 4 #15 Share Posted October 4 5 hours ago, Hazzard said: There is (new) very good research on this topic. This is from the National Center for Biotechnology and the British Psychological Society. "In their conclusions, the researchers note that people who believe they have been abducted by aliens may have problems with source monitoring — remembering how and when a memory is acquired. For example, someone may watch a movie featuring alien abduction, or even just otherworldly creatures, and years later when assessing an episode of sleep paralysis, recall that monster and incorrectly incorporate it into their supposed abduction experience. In other words, they forget the actual source of the memory, and glue together memory fragments that seem to fit — much in the same way that abductee participants incorporated significantly more never-presented words into their recall and recognition responses." https://www.bps.org.uk/research-digest/what-leads-people-believe-they-have-been-abducted-aliens https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/18834282/ "So why do people believe that they have been abducted by aliens when, presumably, they haven’t? Psychologists looking to answer this question have appealed to awareness during sleep paralysis (ASP) and accompanying hallucinations. During Rapid Eye Movement (REM) sleep, the sleeper is immobilized. In ASP, the sleeper wakes up before the paralysis has disappeared and is aware that they are unable to move. 75% of subjects will hallucinate whilst experiencing ASP.6 Abductees report a variety of these experiences; the hallucinations may be visual, including ‘lights, animals, strange figures, and demons’, or auditory including ‘heavy footsteps, humming or buzzing noises’.7 Several reports from abductees chime well with this explanation. Like this one... A male abductee awoke in the middle of the night seized with panic. He was entirely paralysed, and felt electricity shooting throughout his body. He felt his energy draining away from him. He could see several alien beings standing around his bed." https://www.birmingham.ac.uk/research/perspective/abducted-by-aliens And this from the Harvard Gazette. "He and his colleagues conclude, “a combination of pre-existing New Age beliefs, episodes of sleep paralysis, accompanied by hallucinations and hypnotic memory recovery may foster beliefs and memories that one has been abducted by space aliens.” https://news.harvard.edu/gazette/story/2003/02/alien-abduction-claims-examined-2/ Now, all you have to do is to ask yourselves - What seems more likely - That all these people are being abducted by space aliens in their flying saucers, and nobody around them noticed??!! ... or is there something else going on here? Logic and reason, people, use it. When posters ignore reasonable, commonly observed phenomena as a candidate explantion in favor of a extraordinary explanation, that tells you all you need to know about that poster's grasp of critical thinking. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hazzard Posted October 4 #16 Share Posted October 4 Just now, Resume said: When posters ignore reasonable, commonly observed phenomena as a candidate explantion in favor of a extraordinary explanation, that tells you all you need to know about that poster's grasp of critical thinking. Its impossible to take people like that seriously. 😄 They did it to themselves! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Resume Posted October 4 #17 Share Posted October 4 (edited) 16 minutes ago, Hazzard said: Its impossible to take people like that seriously. 😄 They did it to themselves! Given the continual logical fallacies employed by certain prolific posters even after those fallicies are pointed out, there is no reason to take them seriously. I never put them on ignore because like a broken clock, they might be right on occasion, but I wouldn't wager on how often. Edited October 4 by Resume English: Can you type it? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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