WorldMysteries Posted October 5 #1 Share Posted October 5 The Utsuro-bune Incident is a fascinating legend from Japan dating back to 1803. According to the story, a strange, hollow boat (called "Utsuro-bune") washed ashore in Hitachi Province (now Ibaraki Prefecture). The boat was described as being round and made of metal and wood, with windows and mysterious symbols inside. Inside the vessel, fishermen found a young woman who appeared to be around 18-20 years old. She had pale skin, red hair, and wore unusual clothes. She carried a box that she guarded closely and was unable to communicate with the locals. After some time, the fishermen returned her and the boat to the sea, where it drifted away. The incident has intrigued historians, folklorists, and even ufologists, who have speculated that it might be an early account of a UFO encounter. The story is documented in several Edo-period texts, including "Toen Shōsetsu" and "Hyōryū Kishū". https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utsuro-bune https://www.nippon.com/en/japan-topics/g00879/ https://www.faena.com/aleph/utsuro-bune-the-legend-of-an-extraterrestrial-arrival-by-sea https://japanesetales.com/japans-200-year-old-ufo-mystery-close-encounter-of-the-third-kind/ https://history.howstuffworks.com/history-vs-myth/did-aliens-contact-japanese-fishermen-in-1803.htm 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Wearer of Hats Posted October 5 #2 Share Posted October 5 Often such myths (for want of a better word) serve to explain something that exists in the world (such as Bigfeets explaining knocking in the woods and broken tree limbs) but I cam’t see the “point” of this one. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jethrofloyd Posted October 5 #3 Share Posted October 5 Interesting reading, at least. One of the more realistic explanation is it was a woman who drifted on the sea front Tianzhu - present day India. It says she later passed on knowledge about the silk farming to a local people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrAnderson Posted October 5 #4 Share Posted October 5 1 hour ago, WorldMysteries said: The Utsuro-bune Incident is a fascinating legend from Japan dating back to 1803. According to the story, a strange, hollow boat (called "Utsuro-bune") washed ashore in Hitachi Province (now Ibaraki Prefecture). The boat was described as being round and made of metal and wood, with windows and mysterious symbols inside. Inside the vessel, fishermen found a young woman who appeared to be around 18-20 years old. She had pale skin, red hair, and wore unusual clothes. She carried a box that she guarded closely and was unable to communicate with the locals. After some time, the fishermen returned her and the boat to the sea, where it drifted away. The incident has intrigued historians, folklorists, and even ufologists, who have speculated that it might be an early account of a UFO encounter. The story is documented in several Edo-period texts, including "Toen Shōsetsu" and "Hyōryū Kishū". https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utsuro-bune https://www.nippon.com/en/japan-topics/g00879/ https://www.faena.com/aleph/utsuro-bune-the-legend-of-an-extraterrestrial-arrival-by-sea https://japanesetales.com/japans-200-year-old-ufo-mystery-close-encounter-of-the-third-kind/ https://history.howstuffworks.com/history-vs-myth/did-aliens-contact-japanese-fishermen-in-1803.htm Nice story! Often there is some truth associated with local legends and myths. But you need to search a lot to be able to see which parts of the story could be real. On the hand is this a myth or a legend? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unusual Tournament Posted October 5 #5 Share Posted October 5 I wonder if the red headed young women wanted to be returned to the sea, in her unusual vessel? 🤔 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hazzard Posted October 5 #6 Share Posted October 5 (edited) WTF 😄 I have so many questions... especially about this part.. "After some time, the fishermen returned her and the boat to the sea, where it drifted away." What if she needed help?? Edited October 5 by Hazzard 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrAnderson Posted October 5 #7 Share Posted October 5 6 hours ago, Unusual Tournament said: I wonder if the red headed young women wanted to be returned to the sea, in her unusual vessel? 🤔 Probably she asked for it? So after this incident she was returned back to the sea where she disappeared with her vessel. Is that vessel what we now call a USO? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrAnderson Posted October 5 #8 Share Posted October 5 6 hours ago, Unusual Tournament said: I wonder if the red headed young women wanted to be returned to the sea, in her unusual vessel? 🤔 Pale skin and unusual dress. Should this remind us the stories about UFOs and their occupants back in the 50s and 60d where they had a much more human appearance. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sky Scanner Posted October 5 #9 Share Posted October 5 I'm not sure where aliens got brought into this story, or why. The vessel she was described as turning up in was said to be made of wood and metal. Maybe it was an unusual design for that part of the world at the time, but clearly a boat. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrAnderson Posted October 5 #10 Share Posted October 5 20 minutes ago, The Sky Scanner said: I'm not sure where aliens got brought into this story, or why. The vessel she was described as turning up in was said to be made of wood and metal. Maybe it was an unusual design for that part of the world at the time, but clearly a boat. Maybe it was a USO? I am sure it fits the definition and we can call it a USO after all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sky Scanner Posted October 5 #11 Share Posted October 5 Just now, MrAnderson said: Maybe it was a USO? I am sure it fits the definition and we can call it a USO after all. Probably not, we don't make submarines out of wood, for very good reasons. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrAnderson Posted October 5 #12 Share Posted October 5 (edited) 4 minutes ago, The Sky Scanner said: Probably not, we don't make submarines out of wood, for very good reasons. Why not? What is the definition a USO? That's S stands for submarine or submerged? I think it stands for submerged. The same reasoning here when people call UFOs anything that unidentified they flies in our skies, from ballons to drones to plastic bags. At least here we have a vessel of some sort. So I don't see any problem with the USO definition. I think the original title can change to Japanese Fishermen encounter USO and its occupants back in 1803 @WorldMysteries Edited October 5 by MrAnderson 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sky Scanner Posted October 5 #13 Share Posted October 5 2 minutes ago, MrAnderson said: Why not? What is the definition a USO? That's S stands for submarine or submerged? Unidentified Submerged Object. You know water has pressure, right? 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hazzard Posted October 5 #14 Share Posted October 5 7 minutes ago, MrAnderson said: Maybe it was a USO? I am sure it fits the definition and we can call it a USO after all. BWAAAHAHAHAHHA 😆 Clueless, as usual 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrAnderson Posted October 5 #15 Share Posted October 5 1 minute ago, Hazzard said: BWAAAHAHAHAHHA 😆 Clueless, as usual Thanks for your contribution. But you haven't said anything for once more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrAnderson Posted October 5 #16 Share Posted October 5 3 minutes ago, The Sky Scanner said: Unidentified Submerged Object. You know water has pressure, right? It's submerged as it seems. But I don't see why we cannot call this a USO. This is an encounter with a USO and its occupants back in 1803. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sky Scanner Posted October 5 #17 Share Posted October 5 6 minutes ago, MrAnderson said: Why not? What is the definition a USO? That's S stands for submarine or submerged? I think it stands for submerged. The same reasoning here when people call UFOs anything that unidentified they flies in our skies, from ballons to drones to plastic bags. At least here we have a vessel of some sort. So I don't see any problem with the USO definition. I think the original title can change to Japanese Fishermen encounter USO and its occupants back in 1803 @WorldMysteries If it needs explaining to you why we don't build underwater craft out of wood.....you know what, I'm not even engaging with you on it, a childish conversation and clearly a trolling attempt. I'll leave you with this thread... 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hazzard Posted October 5 #18 Share Posted October 5 This genious tried it with UFO earlier. Now we are going to have to endure 4 pages (and deraling 5 threads) watching Zetorian trying to re-define USO. Classic! 🤭 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sky Scanner Posted October 5 #19 Share Posted October 5 1 minute ago, Hazzard said: This genious tried it with UFO earlier. Now we are going to have to endure 4 pages (and deraling 5 threads) watching Zetorian trying to re-define USO. Classic! 🤭 In-between telling every one how many galaxies and stars there are, he knows exactly what he's doing... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrAnderson Posted October 5 #20 Share Posted October 5 (edited) 12 minutes ago, The Sky Scanner said: If it needs explaining to you why we don't build underwater craft out of wood.....you know what, I'm not even engaging with you on it, a childish conversation and clearly a trolling attempt. I'll leave you with this thread... I am not trolling at all. If you are using UFO as any object that flies in our skies then what is wrong with this vessel to be called a USO? It does fit the definition as far I understand it. It was a vessel of some sort and it came from the sea. It's a legend by the way and we can say that it was made of wood and metal as it has been mentioned. We can also say it was submerged at one point. Unless you think it's a historical event. Edited October 5 by MrAnderson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sky Scanner Posted October 5 #21 Share Posted October 5 Just now, MrAnderson said: I am not trolling at all. If you are using UFO as any object that flies in our skies then what is wrong with this vessel to be called a USO? It does fit the definition as far I see understand it. It was a vessel of some sort and it came from the sea. One last time, then I'm done with you on this thread: The "vessel" was described as being made of WOOD and metal. Objects that float on the sea are generally called boats, and can be made of WOOD Objects that are submerged, are not made of WOOD. End of my discussion with you on this immature and childish point you're making. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unusual Tournament Posted October 5 #22 Share Posted October 5 4 hours ago, MrAnderson said: Probably she asked for it? So after this incident she was returned back to the sea where she disappeared with her vessel. Is that vessel what we now call a USO? I was thinking more along the lines of some shipwrecked Caucasian girl in a strange vessel. Who knows 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrAnderson Posted October 5 #23 Share Posted October 5 (edited) 4 hours ago, The Sky Scanner said: One last time, then I'm done with you on this thread: The "vessel" was described as being made of WOOD and metal. Objects that float on the sea are generally called boats, and can be made of WOOD Objects that are submerged, are not made of WOOD. End of my discussion with you on this immature and childish point you're making. If you read the legend/myth this wasn't a normal boat but a vessel of some kind made of metal and wood. Take a look at the Wikipedia page and the way they have described it. If it was made of metal too then it was probably able to submerge if we assume there was enough metal to cover the wood. Because it's a legend/myth we can make up whatever we want to but I didn't realise you will have a problem with this and not with the title of the thread referring to aliens back in 1803. Edited October 6 by MrAnderson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrAnderson Posted October 5 #24 Share Posted October 5 16 minutes ago, Unusual Tournament said: I was thinking more along the lines of some shipwrecked Caucasian girl in a strange vessel. Who knows That's also a possibility. The strange vessel is what catches the attention of the reader. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golden Duck Posted October 6 #25 Share Posted October 6 On 10/5/2024 at 5:48 PM, Sir Wearer of Hats said: Often such myths (for want of a better word) serve to explain something that exists in the world (such as Bigfeets explaining knocking in the woods and broken tree limbs) but I cam’t see the “point” of this one. It's about 50 years before The Black Ships. It could serve as a tale of the wisdom of the isolationist culture. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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