DNA study confirms Christopher Columbus’s remains are entombed in Seville

[Still Waters]

Scientists in Spain claim to have solved the two lingering mysteries that cling to Christopher Columbus more than five centuries after the explorer died: are the much-travelled remains buried in a magnificent tomb in Seville Cathedral really his? And was the navigator who changed the course of world history really from Genoa – as history has long claimed – or was he actually Basque, Catalan, Galician, Greek, Jewish or Portuguese?

The answer to the first question is yes. The answer to the second is … wait until Saturday.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/oct/11/dna-study-christopher-columbus-remains-seville-cathedral

[Abramelin]

23 hours ago, Still Waters said:

The answer to the first question is yes. The answer to the second is … wait until Saturday.

And where can I watch it? The BBC? If so, how late?

[Still Waters]

24 minutes ago, Abramelin said:

And where can I watch it? The BBC? If so, how late?

I don't know who is showing it other than in Spain. The article says:

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The knottier question of the explorer’s precise origins will be revealed in Columbus DNA: His True Origin, a special TV programme shown on Saturday 12 October, the date when Spain celebrates its national day

 

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The programme Colón ADN. Su verdadero origen (Columbus’s DNA: His true origins) goes out on Spain’s TVE 1 on Saturday at 22:30 (20:30GMT).

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c2ek271jxpvo

[Abramelin]

On 10/11/2024 at 4:56 PM, Still Waters said:

Scientists in Spain claim to have solved the two lingering mysteries that cling to Christopher Columbus more than five centuries after the explorer died: are the much-travelled remains buried in a magnificent tomb in Seville Cathedral really his? And was the navigator who changed the course of world history really from Genoa – as history has long claimed – or was he actually Basque, Catalan, Galician, Greek, Jewish or Portuguese?

The answer to the first question is yes. The answer to the second is … wait until Saturday.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/oct/11/dna-study-christopher-columbus-remains-seville-cathedral

The answer:

Researchers from the University of Granada claim that Christopher Columbus' DNA is "compatible" with a Sephardic Jewish origin

https://elpais-com.translate.goog/television/2024-10-12/investigadores-de-la-universidad-de-granada-afirman-que-el-adn-de-cristobal-colon-es-compatible-con-un-origen-judio-sefardi.html?_x_tr_sl=es&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=nl&_x_tr_pto=wapp

Edited October 13 by Abramelin

[Abramelin]

And that means that Shimon Wiesenthal was right all the time.

[Antigonos]

4 hours ago, Abramelin said:

And that means that Shimon Wiesenthal was right all the time.

I have a lot of admiration for the man.

[Still Waters]

Claim raises idea explorer was from community expelled by his Spanish patrons, but experts view it with caution

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Rodrigo Barquera, an expert in archaeogenetics at the Max Planck Institute for Evolutionary Anthropology, said he was surprised the findings had been shared without prior scrutiny from others in the scientific community.

“Normally, you send your article to a scientific journal,” he told El País. “An editor is then assigned to the piece and at least three independent reviewers examine the work and decide whether it’s scientifically valid or not. If it is, it gets published and so the rest of the scientific community can say whether they agree with it or not. Putting it on the screen, far from that dialogue and with all this media focus gets in the way of the scientific community being able to say something about it.”

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/oct/13/christopher-columbus-was-spanish-and-jewish-documentary-reveals

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Experts criticise the lack of scientific evidence in the RTVE documentary starring forensic scientist José Antonio Lorente, who has not published any analysis since the exhumation of the sailor's alleged grave in 2003

https://elpais.com/ciencia/2024-10-12/el-show-del-adn-de-cristobal-colon-pudo-ser-un-judio-de-valencia-o-no.html

[Abramelin]

1 hour ago, Still Waters said:

Claim raises idea explorer was from community expelled by his Spanish patrons, but experts view it with caution

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/oct/13/christopher-columbus-was-spanish-and-jewish-documentary-reveals

https://elpais.com/ciencia/2024-10-12/el-show-del-adn-de-cristobal-colon-pudo-ser-un-judio-de-valencia-o-no.html

That may be true, but after I read Simon Wiesenthal's book, "Sails of Hope", I have no doubts he was a (converted) Jew.

If you ever read his book, you'll know why. Far too many 'coincidences' that point to his 'jewishness'.

On the other hand: if it is finally proven that he really wàs a Jew, there will be a new 'reason' for anti-semitics to harass Jews all over the planet for what Israel is doing in Gaza and Libanon.

Jews have bowed down to oppresion and extermination (pogroms, Inquisition) far too long, for many centuries.

Now they fight back with all their might. No mercy for thugs.

We non-Jews created this attitude.

Think about that for more than 5 seconds.

Edited October 13 by Abramelin

[Abramelin]

An important thing in Wiesenthal's book is this: the evil Christian Spanish king and queen decided to kick out all Jews on August 2 (or 1, I forgot), 1492.

He, Columbus, set out on his voyage just the night before the Jews were to be kicked (or killed) out of Spain.

And he was financially supported by rich and important Jews. Nòt by the king and queen of Spain as many think.