docyabut2 Posted October 12 #1 Share Posted October 12 https://www.foxnews.com/politics/doj-sues-virginia-allegedly-purging-noncitizens-voting-rolls-close-election The commonwealth has removed 6,303 noncitizens from voting in the upcoming general election 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Wearer of Hats Posted October 12 #2 Share Posted October 12 So why didn’t they purge the rolls before the 90 period specified by law? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
preacherman76 Posted October 12 #3 Share Posted October 12 (edited) 6 hours ago, Sir Wearer of Hats said: So why didn’t they purge the rolls before the 90 period specified by law? If I had to guess I say they probably registered after that 90 days began. Besides what kind of insanity is that? Illegals are not allowed to vote in our elections. Any law standing in the way of that is treason. Edited October 12 by preacherman76 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
preacherman76 Posted October 12 #4 Share Posted October 12 So basically anyone who has registered to vote after that 90 days began is allowed to vote no matter what. Forced by the federal government. it’s possible not one of those 6000 people were even here 90 days ago. This is an outrage. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will Due Posted October 12 #5 Share Posted October 12 I've already asked the following question in another thread but I have to ask it again. Who the hell supports allowing non-citizens to vote in elections? If you do, please explain WHY you do. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gromdor Posted October 12 #6 Share Posted October 12 It doesn't say that they were illegals, it just said that they had answered some questions on their driver's license form that flagged them. The article also says that they didn't do any follow up to verify the citizenship before removing them from the rolls. Also there is nothing there saying that they registered to vote within the last 90 days. Virginia does have a same day registration law, so there really is nothing stopping someone from voting: Virginia Dept. of Elections: Same Day Voter Registration It does get reviewed, so there is a higher chance of any fraud being caught. So basically Virginia broke the law for no reason at all in my opinion. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will Due Posted October 12 #7 Share Posted October 12 1 minute ago, Gromdor said: It doesn't say that they were illegals, it just said that they had answered some questions on their driver's license form that flagged them. The article also says that they didn't do any follow up to verify the citizenship before removing them from the rolls. Also there is nothing there saying that they registered to vote within the last 90 days. Virginia does have a same day registration law, so there really is nothing stopping someone from voting: Virginia Dept. of Elections: Same Day Voter Registration It does get reviewed, so there is a higher chance of any fraud being caught. So basically Virginia broke the law for no reason at all in my opinion. Are you in favor of non-citizens being able to vote in elections? If so, why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gromdor Posted October 12 #8 Share Posted October 12 Just now, Will Due said: Are you in favor of non-citizens being able to vote in elections? If so, why? No. I am in favor of the law being followed. Which Virginia did not in this case. I see little evidence that Virginia removed real illegals in this instance, but plenty of evidence that Virginia broke the law. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will Due Posted October 12 #9 Share Posted October 12 4 minutes ago, Gromdor said: No. I am in favor of the law being followed. Which Virginia did not in this case. I see little evidence that Virginia removed real illegals in this instance, but plenty of evidence that Virginia broke the law. Are you in favor of breaking the law when it serves a political agenda? Like engaging in prosecutorial misconduct (an illegal act) in order to convict a political opponent just because you know as a prosecutor you can get away with getting him wrongly convicted? Which will have the effect of interfering with an election? Are you in favor of a prosecutor breaking the law in a case like that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gromdor Posted October 12 #10 Share Posted October 12 2 hours ago, Will Due said: Are you in favor of breaking the law when it serves a political agenda? Like engaging in prosecutorial misconduct (an illegal act) in order to convict a political opponent just because you know as a prosecutor you can get away with getting him wrongly convicted? Which will have the effect of interfering with an election? Are you in favor of a prosecutor breaking the law in a case like that? If it is illegal then charges should be pressed. In recent history we have seen many examples of this regarding Trump and his lawyers being disbarred and even charged for conduct of this nature. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buzz_Light_Year Posted October 12 #11 Share Posted October 12 If you can register to vote up to and including election day then the same should apply to purging the voter rolls. Easy fix: You can not register to vote after 90 days before election and you can't purge the voter rolls after 90 days prior to election. Otherwise change both but make the requirements equal. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gromdor Posted October 12 #12 Share Posted October 12 Just now, Buzz_Light_Year said: If you can register to vote up to and including election day then the same should apply to purging the voter rolls. Easy fix: You can not register to vote after 90 days before election and you can't purge the voter rolls after 90 days prior to election. Otherwise change both but make the requirements equal. I agree with that. They should fix the law, but in the meantime we have to follow it. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will Due Posted October 12 #13 Share Posted October 12 1 hour ago, Gromdor said: I agree with that. They should fix the law, but in the meantime we have to follow it. There are many laws law enforcement doesn't follow. Why this one then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Sherapy Posted October 12 #14 Share Posted October 12 4 hours ago, Will Due said: Are you in favor of non-citizens being able to vote in elections? If so, why? Not in favor, one must be a citizen to vote. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Wearer of Hats Posted October 12 #15 Share Posted October 12 3 hours ago, Will Due said: There are many laws law enforcement doesn't follow. Why this one then? I dare say the DOJ is following this law in Virginia because of the “colour” of the state’s elected government. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
preacherman76 Posted October 12 #16 Share Posted October 12 8 hours ago, Gromdor said: It doesn't say that they were illegals, it just said that they had answered some questions on their driver's license form that flagged them. The article also says that they didn't do any follow up to verify the citizenship before removing them from the rolls. Also there is nothing there saying that they registered to vote within the last 90 days. Virginia does have a same day registration law, so there really is nothing stopping someone from voting: Virginia Dept. of Elections: Same Day Voter Registration It does get reviewed, so there is a higher chance of any fraud being caught. So basically Virginia broke the law for no reason at all in my opinion. The article says the people didn’t respond to a request to prove their citizenship. The lawsuit claims the 90 day rule as reason for not being allowed to remove them 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gromdor Posted October 13 #17 Share Posted October 13 17 hours ago, preacherman76 said: The article says the people didn’t respond to a request to prove their citizenship. The lawsuit claims the 90 day rule as reason for not being allowed to remove them The article merely said that the people didn't respond within 14 days with proof of citizenship which is a bit different than them being non citizens. We don't have any evidence that they received the request, how many had to go through this procedure, processed it correctly, etc. If this is from the rolls state wide, it can easily be explained by the small percentage of people who are actually citizens but wasn't able to comply with submitting proof in that timeframe for some reason. One would think that the state or federal government would be able to determine their citizenship by itself without having to ask for proof. It's not healthy for a governement to assume someone is guilty of something unless the person can provide proof in 14 days. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gromdor Posted October 13 #18 Share Posted October 13 21 hours ago, Will Due said: There are many laws law enforcement doesn't follow. Why this one then? Dang. You should be a spokesperson for BLM at the next riots. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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