ADHD is responsible for modern humans…

[Abramelin]

2 minutes ago, The Puzzler said:

Didnt they possess the evolved ADHD skills to forage better, to be quicker thinking, to be more…everything?

That's psychologist bull.

I know you're just digging for a real answer.

But psychologists will never ever solve the question why we are the only surviving Homo Sapiens.

[cormac mac airt]

1 hour ago, The Puzzler said:

I think it’s interesting that the ADHD is carried by Neanderthals and modern humans has a lack of it conforming  in mtDNA K, of which (again) however you wish to look at the figures, remains the predominant maternal Jewish clade…

Except U…K being an offshoot from U via U’K..

Additionally, a study from 2020 found that the presence of haplogroup K served as a protective agent against ADHD, with a significant value ().^[46] Used in conjunction with haplogroup U, the precursor to haplogroup K, was shown to have an even more significant effect in protecting against ADHD in the participants ().^[

 

Incorrect, U’K is the outdated name for Haplogroup K which itself is a subclade of Haplogroup U8b. 
 

cormac

[Abramelin]

1 hour ago, Abramelin said:

That's psychologist bull.

I know you're just digging for a real answer.

But psychologists will never ever solve the question why we are the only surviving Homo Sapiens.

And why not?

It's because these socalled 'psychologists'  already have many difficulties understanding modern human's psychological problems.

Only USAns still believe in their 'therapies'.

And that's why Trump will be their next president.

[Piney]

22 hours ago, Abramelin said:

That's psychologist bull.

I know you're just digging for a real answer.

But psychologists will never ever solve the question why we are the only surviving Homo Sapiens.

When your ADD it's easier to "splatter" your awareness and pay attention to everything going on in a forest but other than that it doesn't help. 

 

[Piney]

20 hours ago, Abramelin said:

Only USAns still believe in their 'therapies'.

And that's why Trump will be their next president.

The Chiropractor/ Alternative medicine Lobby. Something that could never legally exist in Europe or the UK.

[The Puzzler]

On 10/14/2024 at 3:29 AM, Abramelin said:

That's psychologist bull.

I know you're just digging for a real answer.

But psychologists will never ever solve the question why we are the only surviving Homo Sapiens.

Maybe because psychologists are full of woke bull.

Your answer is interesting, like contradicting your first answer or maybe you meant to…

Thats why I’m here.

 

[The Puzzler]

18 hours ago, Piney said:

When your ADD it's easier to "splatter" your awareness and pay attention to everything going on in a forest but other than that it doesn't help. 

 

It’s you’re

[The Puzzler]

18 hours ago, Piney said:

When your ADD it's easier to "splatter" your awareness and pay attention to everything going on in a forest but other than that it doesn't help. 

 

The Cure ~ A Forest

 

[The Puzzler]

It turns out that the ancestors of attention deficit hyperactivity disorder (ADHD) patients received an evolutionary gift. Even if it doesn’t necessarily translate into today’s society.

https://www.psychiatrist.com/news/adhd-might-have-been-an-early-evolutionary-edge/#:~:text=Clinical relevance%3A ADHD traits like,an advantage in certain contexts.

[The Puzzler]

@Piney  It was indeed ADD in my earlier life also….(attention deficient disorder) but now it’s ADHD, (attention deficient HYPERACTIVITY disorder)…ever wonder why I make 10 posts in a row….. does ADD even exist without it being ADHD these days.?

Edited October 15 by The Puzzler

[The Puzzler]

On 10/14/2024 at 5:28 AM, Abramelin said:

And why not?

It's because these socalled 'psychologists'  already have many difficulties understanding modern human's psychological problems.

Only USAns still believe in their 'therapies'.

And that's why Trump will be their next president.

The camel, the gimel…? Kamala

Shes even a Libra, like me….she wants to dress up, to be famous…Kim Kardashian,but she is real, that’s her actual real… Eminem, there’s a tonne of us to compare but I’ll spare you my Libra analogies too much…. to laugh, to joke, people loving her. I actually think she’s trying to lose, because she knows she’s not really cut out to be President, she’s already in the history books, she’s had her laugh. Vote Trump  2024.

Edited October 15 by The Puzzler

[cladking]

On 10/13/2024 at 12:24 PM, The Puzzler said:

Didnt they possess the (by then, more) evolved ADHD skills to forage better, to be quicker thinking, to be more…everything? Did ADHD actually make our brains smaller but more quick thinking, impulsive, believing, devious, .all those things that make us successful in a strange way but  could also be dangerous and even disastrous to mankind itself, if not controlled or recognised…

Yes.  ADHD is a gift and it would be a valuable asset to many people even today if individual differences were noted and used for advantage.   14 year old boys with ADHD are hard to tie down on a warm spring day when they know they be galivanting instead of sitting in a classroom learning scientific notation.  Most will suffer if forced to do a 9 to 5 job as well.   Some people are naturally inclined to do things differently because they are different.  This applies to many other conditions as well like gifted individuals who are forced to learn with their slower classmates and slow who can't keep up.  Across the board we are all different and modern society only wants cookie cutter specialists and doesn't tolerate things like generalists.  It's small wonder that the status quo has become enshrined.  Anyone different might be forced to take drugs.  

In ancient times I believe everyone knew exactly where everyone belonged and the individual simply grew into that niche.  It was exceedingly effective and efficient.  Today very few are where they belong.  

[Trelane]

This is hilarious. So we are throwing this poop burrito into the speculation fan? 🤣

 

[Abramelin]

On 10/15/2024 at 11:40 AM, The Puzzler said:

contradicting your first answer

??

[The Puzzler]

10 hours ago, Abramelin said:

??

You need to quote my whole post, so I can know what  I’m on about…tbh

Edited October 18 by The Puzzler

[The Puzzler]

12 hours ago, Trelane said:

This is hilarious. So we are throwing this poop burrito into the speculation fan? 🤣

 

What? Have you read any of the links or quotes I posted.

Hardly poop tbh.

[Piney]

On 10/17/2024 at 2:05 PM, cladking said:

Yes.  ADHD is a gift and it would be a valuable asset to many people even today if individual differences were noted and used for advantage.   14 year old boys with ADHD are hard to tie down on a warm spring day when they know they be galivanting instead of sitting in a classroom learning scientific notation.  Most will suffer if forced to do a 9 to 5 job as well.   Some people are naturally inclined to do things differently because they are different.  This applies to many other conditions as well like gifted individuals who are forced to learn with their slower classmates and slow who can't keep up.  Across the board we are all different and modern society only wants cookie cutter specialists and doesn't tolerate things like generalists.  It's small wonder that the status quo has become enshrined.  Anyone different might be forced to take drugs.  

 I'm guessing you never raised children.....

 In the Friends (Quaker) and Montessori school systems they actually teach you how to apply it. 

On 10/17/2024 at 2:05 PM, cladking said:

In ancient times I believe everyone knew exactly where everyone belonged and the individual simply grew into that niche.  It was exceedingly effective and efficient.  Today very few are where they belong.  

It's called a "caste system". I was born into a Amerind one and not everyone has the ability to do what they were "born into". They are "lost" because they choose to be. Making your own way doing what you love works better. 

[cladking]

47 minutes ago, Piney said:

 In the Friends (Quaker) and Montessori school systems they actually teach you how to apply it. 

I wasn't aware of this.  Obviously every child is different and most parents and teachers will treat them as they deem most appropriate.  Only modern American institutions could come up with such insane ideas as "zero tolerance policies".  

47 minutes ago, Piney said:

It's called a "caste system". I was born into a Amerind one and not everyone has the ability to do what they were "born into". They are "lost" because they choose to be.

Actually I meant in very ancient times before the language splintered and became confused.  In the very old days your strengths and weakness were obvious every time you opened your mouth.  

Edited October 18 by cladking

[Piney]

1 hour ago, cladking said:

In the very old days your strengths and weakness were obvious every time you opened your mouth.  

They still are today in Quipchak, Oglala and Algonquian.

American English is the marble mouthed one.  

[Antigonos]

21 minutes ago, Piney said:

They still are today in Quipchak, Oglala and Algonquian.

American English is the marble mouthed one.  

He’s talking his Ancient Language/Tower of Babel drivel again.

[The Puzzler]

13 hours ago, Piney said:

 I'm guessing you never raised children.....

 In the Friends (Quaker) and Montessori school systems they actually teach you how to apply it. 

It's called a "caste system". I was born into an Amerind one and not everyone has the ability to do what they were "born into". They are "lost" because they choose to be. Making your own way doing what you love works better. 

 Was born into a Celtic Anglo-Australian one…it is and you are no different to everyone else who has lost their need to do what they were ‘born into’.

I’ve raised three children, they think I’m a nutjob…don’t get the deeper stuff…although my eldest daughter, 28 now….who has started medication for ADHD is getting it more everyday, she’s a social worker, her mind is like being short circuited…with realisation of her crazy mothers ways and thinking wtf, I’m the same x

Not many have children in the Quaker or Montessori system worldwide, even though we do have the latter here.

The way of the world changes, you can’t keep hanging into your old ways and expect to move forward, unless everyone gets and accepts it…. Cladking is correct in his psychological assessment.

Edited October 19 by The Puzzler

[Piney]

9 minutes ago, The Puzzler said:

 Was born into a Celtic Anglo-Australian one…

Errrrr....no. That's not a vocation or leadership caste.

My family is a "medicine/shaman family" for my band who's members are eligible to be elected chief or war leader. I was taught our form of Shamanism at a early age by my grandmother's brother decided I couldn't BS people into believing that crap and ran. 

And now I'm hated for discussing our beliefs and the psychology behind shamanism on here. 

 

[The Puzzler]

10 minutes ago, Piney said:

Errrrr....no. That's not a vocation or leadership caste.

My family is a "medicine/shaman family" for my band who's members are eligible to be elected chief or war leader. I was taught our form of Shamanism at a early age by my grandmother's brother decided I couldn't BS people into believing that crap and ran. 

And now I'm hated for discussing our beliefs and the psychology behind shamanism on here. 

 

A person who owns a Hotel, my great great grandfather, when entering Australia is in fact a leadership/shaman caste.

Whiskey is as good as what, peyote?

Im sick of you thinking you’re a better caste person quite frankly Piney.

I still work at a Hotel. You would all last a week there. 

[Piney]

Just now, The Puzzler said:

I still work at a Hotel. You would all last a week there. 

🤣

I was raised in a logging-livestock breeding family with a 27 square mile "summer station" in Nebraska, a 300 acre stewardship forest and have been wrangling and logging since I was a teen. I rode and fixed fence, built barns, doctored cows, broke horses and harvested the stewardship forest. I was also a heavy rescue and forest firefighter.

I still logged up until last year in the field with my men since last year even though I could of sat on my ass. 

@Abramelin was a landscaper- horticulturist who also broke his ass, ran a big saw and fed "chuck and ducks". 

 

[Piney]

20 minutes ago, The Puzzler said:

Im sick of you thinking you’re a better caste person quite frankly Piney.

Where'd you pull this from? Most will tell you I hate the Algonquian caste system.