the13bats Posted October 16 #26 Share Posted October 16 5 minutes ago, Gromdor said: That's just it. These people do it because they are just good people and not for attention. That's why there aren't publicized lists like this. Im a resident dj two nights a week but never had a request for anything by swift except a cover of her song by some guy, But when maga had their insane unhinged meltdown over her standing up to them abusing her in AI and her backing harris i did look her up, she sure does make a heck of a lot of money and gives a heck of a lot away, shes very popular very loved by her fans. It helps people, for example my 22 yo roof doesnt have another hurricane left in it if a person like swift bought me a roof, its pocket change to her yet would actually be life changing to me and my situation, i wont question these peoples motives. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cho Jinn Posted October 16 #27 Share Posted October 16 An actor not towing the line. Randy's got some, come se dice, cahjones! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psyche101 Posted October 16 #28 Share Posted October 16 20 hours ago, Gromdor said: Dolly Parton regularly gives money for things like this too. Some people just have class. That lady had always been all class. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Desertrat56 Posted October 16 #29 Share Posted October 16 2 hours ago, the13bats said: Im fine them getting the write offs helping people. Me too, as long as it isn't a money laundering scam like the Gates foundations. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Desertrat56 Posted October 16 #30 Share Posted October 16 2 hours ago, Cho Jinn said: An actor not towing the line. Randy's got some, come se dice, cahjones! Randy? Did you mean Dennis? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cho Jinn Posted October 16 #31 Share Posted October 16 1 minute ago, Desertrat56 said: Randy? Did you mean Dennis? Yes, I did, though it may be in the genes; Randy is somewhat of a character himself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Desertrat56 Posted October 16 #32 Share Posted October 16 (edited) 2 hours ago, Gromdor said: That's just it. These people do it because they are just good people and not for attention. That's why there aren't publicized lists like this. Well, I agree with you on most, but do you really think Mel Gibson is a good person? I suppose alcohol can be blamed, but usually alcohol just helps people reveal what they really think. They all have a reason to give to charity and some of them are really good people. I would not question Dolly Parton, Betty White, Taylor Swift or many others, but some I do question, partly because of the charities they donate to and partly because of things they have said or done in public that makes them seem like unconscious, entitled gits. (Mel Gibson, Tom Cruise, etc) Everyone of them is as human as the rest of us and we all have our demons. Edited October 16 by Desertrat56 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Desertrat56 Posted October 16 #33 Share Posted October 16 5 minutes ago, Cho Jinn said: Yes, I did, though it may be in the genes; Randy is somewhat of a character himself. Yeah, but those two brothers are so different from each other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the13bats Posted October 17 #34 Share Posted October 17 23 hours ago, Desertrat56 said: Well, I agree with you on most, but do you really think Mel Gibson is a good person? I suppose alcohol can be blamed, but usually alcohol just helps people reveal what they really think. They all have a reason to give to charity and some of them are really good people. I would not question Dolly Parton, Betty White, Taylor Swift or many others, but some I do question, partly because of the charities they donate to and partly because of things they have said or done in public that makes them seem like unconscious, entitled gits. (Mel Gibson, Tom Cruise, etc) Everyone of them is as human as the rest of us and we all have our demons. In mels case and my 2 cents to your post i dont think mel meant to be a bad person, As you know i have been in the music band club biz all my life so i have seen first hand countless times the effects of alcohol and or drugs on people, sure some just get more free with what they say some have a great time and are fun but ive also seen drugs and or alcohol make a normally very kind caring person into a nightmare, ive actually seen the hyde jeckle thing ruin lives, could you imagine being with a person who becomes a horror when imbibing but blames you for it? I've seen that situation. Mel had some pretty wicked demons that in his case i think he tried to control self medicating with excessive drink, it turned on him. While i have no doubts some found it amusing like when amber herd got it handed to her i didn't find mels too young for him gf playing his raving tantrum he sent her to the world just to get 5 mins attention for herself and show me she was a much bigger narcissist than mel. None of us are perfect and if anyone says they've never freaked out they are either lying or lacking emotions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Desertrat56 Posted October 18 #35 Share Posted October 18 21 hours ago, the13bats said: In mels case and my 2 cents to your post i dont think mel meant to be a bad person, As you know i have been in the music band club biz all my life so i have seen first hand countless times the effects of alcohol and or drugs on people, sure some just get more free with what they say some have a great time and are fun but ive also seen drugs and or alcohol make a normally very kind caring person into a nightmare, ive actually seen the hyde jeckle thing ruin lives, could you imagine being with a person who becomes a horror when imbibing but blames you for it? I've seen that situation. Mel had some pretty wicked demons that in his case i think he tried to control self medicating with excessive drink, it turned on him. While i have no doubts some found it amusing like when amber herd got it handed to her i didn't find mels too young for him gf playing his raving tantrum he sent her to the world just to get 5 mins attention for herself and show me she was a much bigger narcissist than mel. None of us are perfect and if anyone says they've never freaked out they are either lying or lacking emotions. I know all about the horrors alcoholic drug addicts can create, and even sober they blame others for their bad behavior. I was raised by one of those so I may have a more cynical view of alcohol induced madness/rudeness/nasty, hateful behavior. Alocohol alone does not change a person's personality so those kind people you know who are horrible when drunk are actually horrible people with self control when they are sober. No excuses. I have known people who are loving and kind and when they get drunk they are still loving and kind because that is who they are, they get sillly and spend a lot of time hugging peoeple when they have had too much to drink. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Link of Hyrule Posted October 18 #36 Share Posted October 18 7 hours ago, Desertrat56 said: I know all about the horrors alcoholic drug addicts can create, and even sober they blame others for their bad behavior. I was raised by one of those so I may have a more cynical view of alcohol induced madness/rudeness/nasty, hateful behavior. Alocohol alone does not change a person's personality so those kind people you know who are horrible when drunk are actually horrible people with self control when they are sober. No excuses. I have known people who are loving and kind and when they get drunk they are still loving and kind because that is who they are, they get sillly and spend a lot of time hugging peoeple when they have had too much to drink. The effects of alcohol and drugs go far beyond the difference between a violent and happy drunk. I was the most placid drunk you could meet, chill, relaxed, but that means squat if you're addicted and prioritise the drugs over your family. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Desertrat56 Posted October 19 #37 Share Posted October 19 16 hours ago, Link of Hyrule said: The effects of alcohol and drugs go far beyond the difference between a violent and happy drunk. I was the most placid drunk you could meet, chill, relaxed, but that means squat if you're addicted and prioritise the drugs over your family. THat's why I specified alcohol in my commentary, drugs do not do the same thing the mind as alcohol. And there are a lot of *******s who prioritize their next drink over the well being of their family and their own life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will Due Posted October 19 #38 Share Posted October 19 (edited) Harris has only one policy to speak of. If you hate Trump (and America) vote for me. And that's it. Edited October 19 by Will Due Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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