Popular Post Still Waters Posted October 22 Popular Post #1 Share Posted October 22 Quote When it comes to lying in politics, Donald Trump is in a class of his own. According to the Washington Post, he made 30,573 false or misleading claims in his four years as president, increasing year-on-year from six per day in his first year to 39 per day in his fourth. Although other presidents have lied to the public, none have lied like this. Some of Trump’s lies are trivial, and many are self-aggrandising (“Nobody builds better walls than me”). Then there are his more egregious lies, like the one about the 2020 presidential election being “stolen” – demonstrably and dangerously contrary to the facts, with serious consequences for the nation and public trust. https://theconversation.com/why-does-donald-trump-tell-such-blatant-lies-241192 6 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moonman Posted October 22 #2 Share Posted October 22 (edited) Simple, he doesn't like the truth, and/or his cult doesn't. I take that back, whatever he says IS truth to them, so they don't really count. Edited October 22 by moonman 5 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+OverSword Posted October 22 #3 Share Posted October 22 1 hour ago, Still Waters said: https://theconversation.com/why-does-donald-trump-tell-such-blatant-lies-241192 Good article 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the13bats Posted October 22 #4 Share Posted October 22 1 hour ago, Still Waters said: https://theconversation.com/why-does-donald-trump-tell-such-blatant-lies-241192 Well pretty yellow seahorse you will lose your maga cool points with this truthful post, I knew a guy or two in my life very much like trump albeit they didnt have kult worshippers, These guys lied like breathing after a while a person just assumed nothing they said was fully truthful, I believe these type do it from being huge egomaniacs yet know they are losers pos, really have nothing to offer. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tatetopa Posted October 22 #5 Share Posted October 22 People lie when they think their truth is not good enough. They may just be insecure or they may be right. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+OverSword Posted October 22 #6 Share Posted October 22 Quote Perhaps Trump managed to convince himself that they really were eating the dogs and cats in Springfield. Or perhaps he thought to himself: “Plant the emotional image, that’s all you need for the faithful.” That from the article. They are reading too much into what trump thought. I believe that trump never checked the veracity of the story nor cared. It was a handy dandy outrageous (lie) talking point of opportunity that he knew a sector of his base would eat up (pun intended). If it happened even once, and I'm sure that it did, then that's all the believers need once the overall rumor is debunked and it is demonstrated that this is not happening at any meaningful level. They will always just point to the one instance and their hero's reputation is intact and they can tell themselves the liberal MSM is out to get trump so you can't believe negative stories about him. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gromdor Posted October 22 #7 Share Posted October 22 I recall a saying that went to the effect of: "People don't repeat lies to make you distrust the lie, they repeat the lies to make you distrust everyone." 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+and-then Posted October 22 #8 Share Posted October 22 16 minutes ago, OverSword said: the liberal MSM is out to get trump so you can't believe negative stories about him. I think it's impossible to rationally look at media coverage of the man during his campaign and his presidency and not come to the conclusion that they were out to get him. The coverage was so over the top negative that it was unprecedented. There has never been anything remotely like it in our modern history. He was an outsider that was not part of the DC "club" and wasn't selected by them. His idiotic ramblings make their task much easier but at this point he represents the only option for stopping the insanity, true irrationality, of the agenda of the Left in America. In short, against all odds and despite his flaws and all the negative media coverage, he could win this thing and then we'll see if the country can survive the reaction of the Left. I think that the best case scenario is an energetic repeat of his first presidency, where he is hampered by ridiculous lawsuits and protests on every action he takes. I don't like to even entertain what the worst case could be. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+OverSword Posted October 22 #9 Share Posted October 22 19 minutes ago, and-then said: I think it's impossible to rationally look at media coverage of the man during his campaign and his presidency and not come to the conclusion that they were out to get him. The coverage was so over the top negative that it was unprecedented. There has never been anything remotely like it in our modern history. He was an outsider that was not part of the DC "club" and wasn't selected by them. I completely agree. I also think he is not presidential material. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wakka25 Posted October 22 #10 Share Posted October 22 Show me a more blatant lie in the history of politics than this campaign promise: Quote Joe Biden: If I'm elected, we're going to cure cancer AT THIS HOUR At a campaign rally, Democratic presidential candidate Joe Biden told the crowd that if he is elected President, "we're going to cure cancer." CNN's Kate Bolduan presses Biden campaign co-chairman Rep. Cedric Richmond on Biden's promise. https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2019/06/12/joe-biden-cure-cancer-campaign-richmond-bolduan-sot-ath-vpx.cnn 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moonman Posted October 22 #11 Share Posted October 22 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Wakka25 said: Show me a more blatant lie in the history of politics than this campaign promise: You guys are incapable of anything other than whattabout. But if you want to play that game, you only have 30,572 left to go. Edited October 22 by moonman 6 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wakka25 Posted October 22 #12 Share Posted October 22 4 minutes ago, moonman said: You guys are incapable of anything other than whattabout. But if you want to play that game, you only have 30,572 left to go. Yes, deflect because you're unable to answer my question. Why are Democrats allowed to benefit from fanciful lies while Repubilcans get a running tally? 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HandsomeGorilla Posted October 22 #13 Share Posted October 22 Simple: It obviously works. It riles up the liberals and energizes his base. Task failed successfully. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moonman Posted October 22 #14 Share Posted October 22 (edited) 27 minutes ago, Wakka25 said: Yes, deflect because you're unable to answer my question. Why are Democrats allowed to benefit from fanciful lies while Repubilcans get a running tally? You didn't ask me any ****ing question, you just deflected right off the bat playing whattabout. Swing and a miss. Yes, all politicians lie and make false promises, but not with every breath the way he does. Maybe respond to the actual article and try to explain why he lies all day, every day about everything. Better yet, explain why you and your ilk eat his lies up like candy and suck his figurative nuts harder with every one he spews. Edited October 22 by moonman 5 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acidhead Posted October 22 #15 Share Posted October 22 2 hours ago, OverSword said: Good article It's a good article if one is inclined to be convinced Donald Trump is Adolf Hitler as the author of the article implies. Trump's rhetoric concerning illegal immigration is in no way close to Hitlers and the Nazis rhetoric used to justify the persecution of the Jewish population. This kind of journalism is reckless and has already led to two attempted assassinations on Donald Trump in the past few months. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will Due Posted October 22 #16 Share Posted October 22 Quote According to the Washington Post You mean that bastion of journalistic integrity? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+OverSword Posted October 22 #17 Share Posted October 22 2 minutes ago, acidhead said: It's a good article if one is inclined to be convinced Donald Trump is Adolf Hitler as the author of the article implies. Trump's rhetoric concerning illegal immigration is in no way close to Hitlers and the Nazis rhetoric used to justify the persecution of the Jewish population. This kind of journalism is reckless and has already led to two attempted assassinations on Donald Trump in the past few months. It's a good article about big liars in general. Yes it is calling out trump because either the author is "one of those" or because trump equals clicks. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acidhead Posted October 22 #18 Share Posted October 22 3 minutes ago, OverSword said: It's a good article about big liars in general. Yes it is calling out trump because either the author is "one of those" or because trump equals clicks. Yeah, without a doubt Trump lies. He also speaks hyperbolic. He's always been like this because it sells. He sells himself probably better than anybody on the planet. He's also really good at selling other people, groups of people or businesses. This requires often time hyperbolic catch phrases. Embellishments. More often than not he does this to humor people. His humor is a dry, intelligent, timely humor. Probably the most hilarious aspect of it all is the media who pretend to fact check all these socalled lies when the majority of his hyperbole is intended to humor and troll the media into talking about the issues he wants discussed. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lightly Posted October 22 #19 Share Posted October 22 Because he’s a compulsive Liar? ..Exaggerator, Braggart, & FOOL? 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tatetopa Posted October 22 #20 Share Posted October 22 59 minutes ago, acidhead said: Yeah, without a doubt Trump lies. He also speaks hyperbolic. He's always been like this because it sells. He sells himself probably better than anybody on the planet. He's also really good at selling other people, groups of people or businesses. This requires often time hyperbolic catch phrases. Embellishments. More often than not he does this to humor people. Reasonable point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Wearer of Hats Posted October 22 #21 Share Posted October 22 All politicians lie, Trump just does it worse than the others. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superman73 Posted October 22 #22 Share Posted October 22 People aren't out to get trump,the sane and rational of our population realize the danger he poses to society.Only fools and sheep would want to live among a dictatorship! Morons.. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
preacherman76 Posted October 22 #23 Share Posted October 22 (edited) 2 hours ago, superman73 said: People aren't out to get trump,the sane and rational of our population realize the danger he poses to society.Only fools and sheep would want to live among a dictatorship! Morons.. Danger? Danger is watching our middle class shrink by the day because of failed economic policies. Danger is allowing the entirety of South America to invade the country. If you’re an American, you are about to vote for a woman who skipped the entire democratic process up till this point, and at the same time cry about a dictatorship? You can’t make this stuff up. Edited October 22 by preacherman76 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Link of Hyrule Posted October 22 #24 Share Posted October 22 (edited) 8 hours ago, Still Waters said: https://theconversation.com/why-does-donald-trump-tell-such-blatant-lies-241192 Ah, The Conversation - the uber left wing arm of the already left wing ABC. The article embarrassed itself by using the WaPo article alleging 30 thousand lies in its first sentence (this is the kind of article that can only be written about Donald Trump, no one would dare do the same for Kamala Harris or Joe Biden (and the ones that pretended to try were so inadequate for the task it was just laugable). The Conversation is just proving it's a left wing mouthpiece, and I am ashamed that my tax dollars pay for this publication. Edited October 22 by Link of Hyrule 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psyche101 Posted October 23 #25 Share Posted October 23 5 hours ago, Wakka25 said: Show me a more blatant lie in the history of politics than this campaign promise: Here you go. Same one by Donald, with aids and Alzheimer's thrown in for good measure. "We will push onward with new medical frontiers," Mr. Trump said. "We will come up with the cures to many, many problems, to many, many diseases including cancer and others. And we're getting closer all the time." https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/trump-cure-cancer-aids-joe-biden-orlando-campaign-rally/ Trumpers are like the new truthers hey. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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