Why does Donald Trump tell such blatant lies?

[Opus Magnus]

When Trump lies it is easy to see through it, and anyone with a stable mind will be able to understand the humor.

[Agent0range]

2 hours ago, preacherman76 said:

Danger? Danger is watching our middle class shrink by the day because of failed economic policies. Danger is allowing the entirety of South America to invade the country. 
 

If you’re an American, you are about to vote for a woman who skipped the entire democratic process up till this point, and at the same time cry about a dictatorship? You can’t make this stuff up. 

Can you explain how the middle class did well under Trump?  And you say the woman who skipped the entire democratic process...but that process clearly states the party picks their candidate.  So, OK.  Did Trump no tell Republicans to vote against a border bill so it wouldn't pass because it would hurt his election chances?  One person wants to fire everyone who doesn't support them.  That's as close to a dictator as this country has ever been.  

[Agent0range]

1 hour ago, Opus Magnus said:

When Trump lies it is easy to see through it, and anyone with a stable mind will be able to understand the humor.

"I passed Veteran's choice.  They said it couldn't be done, but I did it."  Obama passed it.  Did you laugh when he said it?  Was it humorous?  As a Veteran, I don't find the humor in him saying that.  With my VA 40 miles away, that was a pretty significant bill that affected my life that Obama passed it.  I don't understand the humor when Trump said he passed it.  Can you explain the humor to me?

Edited October 23 by Agent0range

[Arbenol]

6 hours ago, acidhead said:

This kind of journalism is reckless and has already led to two attempted assassinations on Donald Trump in the past few months. 

I thought libertarians were all about personal responsibility. 

Only when it suits, eh?

[acidhead]

2 minutes ago, Arbenol said:

I thought libertarians were all about personal responsibility. 

Only when it suits, eh?

Of course not. The attempted assassins are responsible for their actions obviously.  The journalists constant comparing Trump to Hitler is by no means illegal. It's reckless journalism.  Nice try at a lame attempted gotcha.  Have a nice day. 

[acidhead]

15 minutes ago, Agent0range said:

"I passed Veteran's choice.  They said it couldn't be done, but I did it."  Obama passed it.  Did you laugh when he said it?  Was it humorous?  As a Veteran, I don't find the humor in him saying that.  With my VA 40 miles away, that was a pretty significant bill that affected my life that Obama passed it.  I don't understand the humor when Trump said he passed it.  Can you explain the humor to me?

Both can be true. 

Obama originally passed the veterans choice program in 2014 and Trump expanded on it passing the VA mission act in 2018. 

 

[Agent0range]

2 minutes ago, acidhead said:

Both can be true. 

Obama originally passed the veterans choice program in 2014 and Trump expanded on it passing the VA mission act in 2018. 

 

LOL, Trump added 10 miles to the bill.  He didn't pass the bill.  He wasn't the only one who could do it as he said.  He straight up said he passed the bill.  As a Veteran that goes to the VA, as Maury Povich would say, that is a lie.

[Arbenol]

11 minutes ago, acidhead said:

Of course not. The attempted assassins are responsible for their actions obviously.  The journalists constant comparing Trump to Hitler is by no means illegal. It's reckless journalism.  Nice try at a lame attempted gotcha.  Have a nice day. 

Not a gotcha attempt. I just find it curious that you would blame the assassination attempts on journalism rather than the perpetrators.

[Opus Magnus]

51 minutes ago, Agent0range said:

"I passed Veteran's choice.  They said it couldn't be done, but I did it."  Obama passed it.  Did you laugh when he said it?  Was it humorous?  As a Veteran, I don't find the humor in him saying that.  With my VA 40 miles away, that was a pretty significant bill that affected my life that Obama passed it.  I don't understand the humor when Trump said he passed it.  Can you explain the humor to me?

You prove my point when you see straight through Trump's lie.  When I use the word humor I don't mean humor as in 'funny' but the other definition of humor as a temperament¹.

 From Merriam-Webster definition 2b of humor: characteristic or habitual disposition or bent : temperament
of cheerful humor

1. Merriam-Webster, "humor: noun," Dictionary, accessed October 22, 2014, https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/humor

[Tatetopa]

10 hours ago, Wakka25 said:

Show me a more blatant lie in the history of politics than this campaign promise:

 

We he did not cure it but he put some effort into it.  

https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/statements-releases/2024/08/13/fact-sheet-biden-harris-administration-announces-150-million-from-arpa-h-to-deliver-progress-on-biden-cancer-moonshot-goals-and-improve-health-outcomes/

More than two years ago, President Joe Biden and First Lady Jill Biden reignited the Cancer Moonshot with the goals of reducing the cancer death rate in the United States by at least half—preventing more than 4 million cancer deaths—by 2047, and improving the experience of people who are touched by cancer. As part of this effort, President Biden and Vice President Harris secured bipartisan Congressional support to establish the Advanced Research Projects Agency for Health (ARPA-H) to generate breakthroughs in ways to prevent, detect, and treat cancer and other diseases. In its first two years, ARPA-H has invested more than $400 million to fast-track progress on how we prevent, detect, and treat cancer.

Today in New Orleans, the President and First Lady will announce up to $150 million in ARPA-H awards to develop technologies that will allow surgeons to provide more successful tumor-removal surgeries for people facing cancer. These awards will support researchers from eight teams across the country who are pursuing innovative ideas as part of ARPA-H’s Precision Surgical Interventions (PSI) program.

For the nearly two million Americans who are newly diagnosed with solid tumor cancers each year, surgical removal is often the first step in their treatment. PSI aims to make these surgeries more effective, reducing the need for repeat surgeries and decreasing the damage to healthy tissue, ultimately saving and extending lives.

https://news.tulane.edu/news/president-biden-announces-nearly-23-million-tulane-develop-revolutionary-cancer-moonshot

Tulane’s portion of the Biden Cancer Moonshot project will be funded with an award of up to $22.9 million from the Advanced Research Projects Agency for Health, also known as ARPA-H, a federal funding agency established by the Biden Administration in 2022 to rapidly advance high-potential, high-impact biomedical research.

Biden, whose son Beau died of brain cancer in 2015, announced the award at a ceremony in the Marshall Family Commons, an expansive atrium on the ground floor the Goldring-Woldenberg Business Complex on Tulane’s uptown campus. A sign emblazoned with the words “Curing Cancer Faster” served as a backdrop along with eight American flags.

 

[psyche101]

4 hours ago, Opus Magnus said:

When Trump lies it is easy to see through it, and anyone with a stable mind will be able to understand the humor.

So why do so many still lie and repeat Trump's lies about a stolen election? 

[Opus Magnus]

9 hours ago, psyche101 said:

So why do so many still lie and repeat Trump's lies about a stolen election? 

Leaders achieve more by lying than by acting honestly.  They have to lie about one thing to cover up another.  Everything is about appearances, and people care more about the end result.  A leader who never stops preaching about peace and trust is a sworn enemy to both, and would lose his power if he ever practiced either¹.

1. Niccolò Machiavelli, The Prince, 1513, trans. Tim Parks (2009; reiss.,Great Britain: Penguin, 2014), 69-71, https://apeiron.iulm.it/retrieve/handle/10808/4129/46589/Machiavelli%2C The Prince.pdf

Edited October 23 by Opus Magnus

[itsnotoutthere]

 

[WVK]

11 hours ago, psyche101 said:

So why do so many still lie and repeat Trump's lies about a stolen election? 

Lack of trust in the institutions from 80% to 20%
Public Trust in Government: 1958-2024

https://www.pewresearch.org/politics/2024/06/24/public-trust-in-government-1958-2024/

[Wakka25]

22 hours ago, moonman said:

You didn't ask me any ****ing question, you just deflected right off the bat playing whattabout. Swing and a miss. Yes, all politicians lie and make false promises, but not with every breath the way he does.

Maybe respond to the actual article and try to explain why he lies all day, every day about everything. Better yet, explain why you and your ilk eat his lies up like candy and suck his figurative nuts harder with every one he spews.

I didn't ask anything? That's not true. I said: "Show me a more blatant lie in the history of politics than this campaign promise"

You didn't do that. You simply deflected. 

[moonman]

12 minutes ago, Wakka25 said:

I didn't ask anything? That's not true. I said: "Show me a more blatant lie in the history of politics than this campaign promise"

You didn't do that. You simply deflected. 

Cool story bro. Answering a question with a question. Classic whatabout diversion.

Since you need an answer so badly, try looking at post #25 where your orange baby daddy claimed the EXACT SAME THING, but even more biggly.

Edited October 23 by moonman

[Wakka25]

17 hours ago, psyche101 said:

 

Here you go. Same one by Donald, with aids and Alzheimer's thrown in for good measure.

 

"We will push onward with new medical frontiers," Mr. Trump said. "We will come up with the cures to many, many problems, to many, many diseases including cancer and others. And we're getting closer all the time."

 

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/trump-cure-cancer-aids-joe-biden-orlando-campaign-rally/

 

Trumpers are like the new truthers hey. 

There is no comparison between these quotes:

Quote

 

"We will come up with the cures to many, many problems, to many, many diseases including cancer and others. And we're getting closer all the time."

"If I'm elected, we're going to cure cancer."

 

Trump gave an open ended statement. Biden made a campaign promise based on the condition if won the election. 

Edited October 23 by Wakka25

[Wakka25]

23 minutes ago, moonman said:

Cool story bro. Answering a question with a question. Classic whatabout diversion.

Since you need an answer so badly, try looking at post #25 where your orange baby daddy claimed the EXACT SAME THING, but even more biggly.

 I asked that question before you posted in this thread. Keep making your silly excuses.  

[moonman]

8 minutes ago, Wakka25 said:

There is no comparison between these quotes: 

Trump gave an open ended statement. Biden made a campaign promise based on the condition if won the election.  

Ah yes, rule #2 from the playbook of "How to be a TRUE magat cult member":

1. Deflect, never answer directly

2. Play the semantics word game whenever possible

3. Accuse the other party of the thing leader daddy did

4. When all else fails, accuse the other party of having "TDS"

5. Never, EVER admit big orange did something wrong

6. Profit?

Edited October 23 by moonman

[moonman]

14 minutes ago, Wakka25 said:

 I asked that question before you posted in this thread. Keep making your silly excuses.  

Your question got answered, which of course you didn't accept. Whatever. 

That said, now we can move on to the other 30,574 lies. The thread is not about ONE lie after all, or the lies you perceived someone else told, but the pattern he has of averaging one lie per sentence (and before you try to go there, no, that isn't an actual statistic. Or maybe it is. I don't know). Any comments on the actual thread topic?

Edited October 23 by moonman

[Trelane]

Everyone lies. He's no different than anyone else.

[moonman]

7 minutes ago, Trelane said:

He's no different than anyone else.

I disagree. He takes it to a whole new level. Magnitudes higher of right to your face full on BS.

People really want that for a president? The highest office in the land filled by a misinformed BS con artist? The guy who gleefully admits to firing people smarter than he is?

Edited October 23 by moonman

[Trelane]

1 minute ago, moonman said:

I disagree. He takes it to a whole new level. Magnitudes higher of right to your face full on BS.

Ok well that's cool, but it shows your priors. He lies to drive his narrative. We all do. It's just because he's in the media all the time that anyone cares. I mean seriously, if he never ran or was running for president, no one would give a **** about his lies. Now, people act like it's some awful thing that he lies when EVERYONE in politics lies. It's what they all do. You opinion is shaped by your personal dislike of him and place a greater emphasis on him because of that opinion. That's all.

[moonman]

7 minutes ago, Trelane said:

Ok well that's cool, but it shows your priors. He lies to drive his narrative. We all do. It's just because he's in the media all the time that anyone cares. I mean seriously, if he never ran or was running for president, no one would give a **** about his lies. Now, people act like it's some awful thing that he lies when EVERYONE in politics lies. It's what they all do. You opinion is shaped by your personal dislike of him and place a greater emphasis on him because of that opinion. That's all.

True I wouldn't care if he wasn't in the race. But he's a complete piece of **** regardless - felon, liar, abuser, likely pedo, wannabe dictator. He doesn't need my opinion to show he is all these things on a daily basis, he proves that on his own.

He embodies everything a president should NOT be. Lying is nearly the least of it, and yes they all do it, but not so stupidly, blatantly and shamefully like he does.

Edited October 23 by moonman

[Wakka25]

15 minutes ago, moonman said:

Ah yes, rule #2 from the playbook of "How to be a TRUE magat cult member":

1. Deflect, never answer directly

2. Play the semantics word game whenever possible

3. Accuse the other party of the thing leader daddy did

4. When all else fails, accuse the other party of having "TDS"

5. Never, EVER admit big orange did something wrong

6. Profit?

There's no comparison between those quotes. Nothing in your handy list applies just silly excuses because you can't defend Biden's self benefit by fanciful campaign  promises.