Unusual Tournament Posted October 24 #1 Share Posted October 24 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hazzard Posted October 24 #2 Share Posted October 24 UFOs are seen everywhere and all the time. Im pretty sure we could change the word "missile base" with whatever we want and it would be as true as this claim. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unusual Tournament Posted October 24 Author #3 Share Posted October 24 20 minutes ago, Hazzard said: UFOs are seen everywhere and all the time. Im pretty sure we could change the word "missile base" with whatever we want and it would be as true as this claim. Are you saying UFO’s have visited every MacDonald year after year since 1960? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unusual Tournament Posted October 24 Author #4 Share Posted October 24 A tad off topic: it’s evident the anti UAP crowd is losing ground in these discussions as of late as their participation and argumentative rates have fallen dramatically. we’re kicking goals 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hazzard Posted October 24 #5 Share Posted October 24 6 minutes ago, Unusual Tournament said: A tad off topic: it’s evident the anti UAP crowd is losing ground in these discussions as of late as their participation and argumentative rates have fallen dramatically. we’re kicking goals The question of alien visitation will be decided by the evidence, not by the intensity of opinion. So far there is zero corroborating evidence that UFOs have anything at all to do with ET. All the believers have at this point are opinions and wishful thinking. Thats a fact. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hazzard Posted October 24 #6 Share Posted October 24 14 minutes ago, Unusual Tournament said: Are you saying UFO’s have visited every MacDonald year after year since 1960? No Im saying that your OP is dog💩 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.UFO Posted October 24 #7 Share Posted October 24 1 hour ago, Hazzard said: UFOs are seen everywhere and all the time. Im pretty sure we could change the word "missile base" with whatever we want and it would be as true as this claim. What about in 1967 when a UFO turned off nuclear missiles in Montana? 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golden Duck Posted October 24 #8 Share Posted October 24 43 minutes ago, Unusual Tournament said: A tad off topic: it’s evident the anti UAP crowd is losing ground in these discussions as of late as their participation and argumentative rates have fallen dramatically. we’re kicking goals Own goals are nothing to brag about. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hazzard Posted October 24 #9 Share Posted October 24 (edited) 17 minutes ago, Mr.UFO said: What about in 1967 when a UFO turned off nuclear missiles in Montana? That old fairytale was debunked a long time ago. Edited October 24 by Hazzard 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claira Posted October 24 #10 Share Posted October 24 No surprise that UFOs have visited every major nuclear missile base. If one country is going to spy on another, nuclear missile bases and other military installations would be key targets. The other possibility is that these UFOs belong to the bases themselves and are operating in a protective capacity. Just a guess obviously, but the likelihood of them being alien craft is zilch to none. 3 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unusual Tournament Posted October 25 Author #11 Share Posted October 25 3 hours ago, Hazzard said: The question of alien visitation will be decided by the evidence, not by the intensity of opinion. So far there is zero corroborating evidence that UFOs have anything at all to do with ET. All the believers have at this point are opinions and wishful thinking. Thats a fact. Well you’ve been inundated with fact and testimony from military and government sources. You don’t know as much as them and your only defence to date is ridicule and persistence in being negative Happy to wait for your arguments on UFO’s visiting military bases since the 1960’s?? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unusual Tournament Posted October 25 Author #12 Share Posted October 25 3 hours ago, Hazzard said: No Im saying that your OP is dog💩 You know more than the military. Okay got it! 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unusual Tournament Posted October 25 Author #13 Share Posted October 25 3 hours ago, Golden Duck said: Own goals are nothing to brag about. Coming from the dude that calls himself ‘Golden Duck’ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hazzard Posted October 25 #14 Share Posted October 25 52 minutes ago, Unusual Tournament said: Well you’ve been inundated with fact and testimony from military and government sources. You don’t know as much as them and your only defence to date is ridicule and persistence in being negative They clearly stated in the last report (from 2024) that there is no evidence that any of the UFOs (going back decades) have anything to do with ET. Dont you believe them? Quote Happy to wait for your arguments on UFO’s visiting military bases since the 1960’s?? Its been debunked many times here at UM, use the search function. Regurgitating old stories and opinions is Skyeagles thing not mine. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golden Duck Posted October 25 #15 Share Posted October 25 (edited) 1 hour ago, Unusual Tournament said: Coming from the dude that calls himself ‘Golden Duck’ That's right. It's called self deprecating humour. You know, free from an unjustified ego that claims to have kicked goals when in fact you've been nutmegged. Edited October 25 by Golden Duck 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+and-then Posted October 25 #16 Share Posted October 25 7 hours ago, Unusual Tournament said: in these discussions These are "discussions"? You post some oddball on X saying something with zero proof and how do you expect skeptics to react? 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unusual Tournament Posted October 25 Author #17 Share Posted October 25 49 minutes ago, and-then said: These are "discussions"? You post some oddball on X saying something with zero proof and how do you expect skeptics to react? So you’re saying the “odd ball” is wrong? Haven’t we been hearing for decades about these incidents over military and nuclear facilities? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeyBim Posted October 25 #18 Share Posted October 25 11 hours ago, Unusual Tournament said: A tad off topic: it’s evident the anti UAP crowd is losing ground in these discussions as of late as their participation and argumentative rates have fallen dramatically. we’re kicking goals Isn't it more like "anti UAP=alien spacecraft crowd"? I haven't been here long but it seems that the majority accept people see things in the sky they can't identify, but some people prefer not to jump straight to what they see as an extraordinary conclusion without sufficient evidence. I would also suggest any lack of participation from them might be more to do with not wanting to repeat the same arguments over and over, rather than any point-scoring from the other side. 4 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iAlrakis Posted October 25 #19 Share Posted October 25 13 hours ago, Unusual Tournament said: A tad off topic: it’s evident the anti UAP crowd is losing ground in these discussions as of late as their participation and argumentative rates have fallen dramatically. we’re kicking goals A bit of nuance is needed here. I've been reading about UFOs for about 40 years. They're called UAPs now but that doesn't change anything. The fact is that I never doubted their existence but so far I haven't seen any concrete evidence that aliens are involved. 1 of the things that's mostly used as 'proof' are the 'un-earthly' capabilities. "We cannot do those speeds". "The human body cannot handle..." That's all based on knowledge that's publicly available. What's going on in black/classified projects is mostly 30-40 years ahead of what we see in the unclassified world. 1. because it's extremely expensive, 2. because of military or other advantages. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Essan Posted October 25 #20 Share Posted October 25 15 hours ago, Unusual Tournament said: But only in the USA cos that's the only country aliens are interested in on account that they only study more primitive lifeforms Seriously, what a load of nonsense. But hey, people will believe it cos ol' Barnum was absolutely right 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timothy Posted October 25 #21 Share Posted October 25 14 hours ago, Unusual Tournament said: A tad off topic: it’s evident the anti UAP crowd is losing ground in these discussions as of late as their participation and argumentative rates have fallen dramatically. we’re kicking goals Much more likely (as is the case with me) that people get bored arguing, when it’s the same rehashed stuff over and over with nothing new or compelling enough to warrant a response. Also I wouldn’t call it the ‘anti UAP’ crowd, pretty much everyone agrees that there’s stuff people can’t identify. But it’s usually due to lack of data rather than evidence of anything fantastical. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trelane Posted October 25 #22 Share Posted October 25 15 hours ago, Unusual Tournament said: A tad off topic: it’s evident the anti UAP crowd is losing ground in these discussions as of late as their participation and argumentative rates have fallen dramatically. we’re kicking goals I don't think there's an "anti UAP crowd" as you put it. However, there many people skeptical of the the connections of UAPs to extraterrestrials. There has been zero scientific evidence of the existence of an alien species, let alone routine visitation. That's where the real divide lies currently. Events and stories are not the smoking guns some have been praying for. They are interesting from time to time and it would be awesome if it turned out to be aliens visiting. However, the data and science show that the phenomenon is not connected to alien visitation. Kicking goals eh? I wouldn't quite say that my fiend. This is what I've seen in the cases presented thus far. 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abramelin Posted October 25 #23 Share Posted October 25 15 hours ago, Unusual Tournament said: Are you saying UFO’s have visited every MacDonald year after year since 1960? Yes, but since a couple of days they stopped doing that. I wonder why... 😛 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hazzard Posted October 25 #24 Share Posted October 25 13 hours ago, Unusual Tournament said: You know more than the military. Okay got it! A couple of guys in the armed forces stating their belief and opinions (that some UFOs are ET) does in no way make it true or valid. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unusual Tournament Posted October 25 Author #25 Share Posted October 25 12 hours ago, HeyBim said: Isn't it more like "anti UAP=alien spacecraft crowd"? I haven't been here long but it seems that the majority accept people see things in the sky they can't identify, but some people prefer not to jump straight to what they see as an extraordinary conclusion without sufficient evidence. I would also suggest any lack of participation from them might be more to do with not wanting to repeat the same arguments over and over, rather than any point-scoring from the other side. Hi HeyBim, yes and no. You need some reasoning to discount something otherwise you need to have an open mind. You can’t say they’re aliens without providing some data that they could be and alternatively, you can’t discount something without providing some reasoning. As lots of proof in the form of performance of these UAP is no guarantee they are aliens, they do provide a sort of evidence on why they cannot be man made. Deductive reasoning 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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