Supreme Court allows Virginia to remove suspected non-citizens from voter rolls

[+OverSword]

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The Supreme Court on Wednesday temporarily blocked an order by a federal judge that would have required Virginia to return more than 1,600 people to the voter rolls. U.S. District Judge Patricia Tolliver Giles found that since early August the state had canceled the registration of more than 1,600 voters – at least some of whom were U.S. citizens eligible to vote – under a program intended to remove suspected noncitizens from the voting rolls.  

In a brief unsigned order on Wednesday morning, the justices granted Virginia’s request to put Giles’ order on hold while a challenge to it continues. Justices Sonia Sotomayor, Elena Kagan, and Ketanji Brown Jackson indicated that they would have denied the state’s request.

 

https://www.scotusblog.com/2024/10/supreme-court-allows-virginia-to-remove-suspected-non-citizens-from-voter-rolls/

[Buzz_Light_Year]

7 minutes ago, OverSword said:

Justices Sonia Sotomayor, Elena Kagan, and Ketanji Brown Jackson indicated that they would have denied the state’s request.

Well that's not surprising. 

[ExpandMyMind]

Madness 6 days out from the election, even with same day voter registration.

This is setting a supremely dangerous precedent.

The groundwork is being laid for much shenanigans this election. And the electorate are just watching it unfold in front of their eyes.

[+OverSword]

29 minutes ago, Buzz_Light_Year said:

Well that's not surprising. 

I'm surprised they allow it this close to an election.

[+Razman]

17 minutes ago, ExpandMyMind said:

Madness 6 days out from the election, even with same day voter registration.

This is setting a supremely dangerous precedent.

The groundwork is being laid for much shenanigans this election. And the electorate are just watching it unfold in front of their eyes.

Agreed , there should be some kind of checks and balances before you can just drop SUSPECTED non citizens from voter rolls. Especially this close to an election , there is a chance this could easily be abused, or even unintentionally rob voters of their rights. In my opinion , it’s becoming more clear that they are really biased for Trump and Repubs. 

[ExpandMyMind]

Just now, Razman said:

Agreed , there should be some kind of checks and balances before you can just drop SUSPECTED non citizens from voter rolls. Especially this close to an election , there is a chance this could easily be abused, or even unintentionally rob voters of their rights. In my opinion , it’s becoming more clear that they are really biased for Trump and Repubs. 

It's going to be used to purge citizens from voting in swing states.

Hopefully not, but that's the way things are looking.

"If conservatives become convinced they cannot win democratically, they will not abandon conservatism. They will reject democracy."

[+OverSword]

6 minutes ago, Razman said:

Agreed , there should be some kind of checks and balances before you can just drop SUSPECTED non citizens from voter rolls. Especially this close to an election , there is a chance this could easily be abused, or even unintentionally rob voters of their rights. In my opinion , it’s becoming more clear that they are really biased for Trump and Repubs. 

According to the governor of Virginia the triggering event is when the person has self identified as a non-citizen but was somehow placed on the roles regardless.  If the case is that they incorrectly checked a box indicating they are not a citizen they will be able to re-register when they go to vote.

Edited October 30 by OverSword

[+OverSword]

1 minute ago, ExpandMyMind said:

It's going to be used to purge citizens from voting in swing states.

 

This is only in Virginia.

[+Razman]

2 minutes ago, OverSword said:

According to the governor of Virginia the triggering event is when the person has self identified as a non-citizen but was somehow placed on the roles regardless.  If the case is that they incorrectly checked a box indicating that they will be able to re-register when they go to vote.

Of course. What could go wrong a few days out from an election?

[acidhead]

🤣 

[Buzz_Light_Year]

I've stated this before, if a state can't purge the voter rolls 90 days before election then no one should be allowed to register to vote in the same time frame. The state can't ensure election integrity with people registering to vote right up to election day and the state not being able to do anything about it should it be discovered that someone is ineligible to cast a vote. That becomes a recipe for election fraud regardless of party.

[ExpandMyMind]

3 minutes ago, OverSword said:

This is only in Virginia.

Yes, but it's a decision made at the federal level. This paves the way for it to happen all throughout the country without challenge.

Think about it. They can purge voters any time they want, for any purpose they decide and the voters are chosen by the state.

They can purge the day of the election or day before, and by the time things are sorted out, the election could be over and decided.

I hope it doesn't happen but that's the purpose of all of this. The whole point here was to get in front of the Supreme Court. They purged them with 89 days to go out of the 90 allowed by law.

It's so transparent.

[+OverSword]

19 minutes ago, Razman said:

Of course. What could go wrong a few days out from an election?

I'm surprised they allow it this close to the election but at least they have a path to vote for actual citizens mistakenly removed.

Edited October 30 by OverSword

[+OverSword]

11 minutes ago, ExpandMyMind said:

Yes, but it's a decision made at the federal level. This paves the way for it to happen all throughout the country without challenge.

Think about it. They can purge voters any time they want, for any purpose they decide and the voters are chosen by the state.

They can purge the day of the election or day before, and by the time things are sorted out, the election could be over and decided.

I hope it doesn't happen but that's the purpose of all of this. The whole point here was to get in front of the Supreme Court. They purged them with 89 days to go out of the 90 allowed by law.

It's so transparent.

Yeah, no.  This is an existing law in Virginia that the biden administration sued over.  So you're saying they can purge voter roles thanks to this?  Since when couldn't a state purge voter roles?  Hysteria a bit?  Yep.

[Buzz_Light_Year]

Meanwhile in PA.

https://loudobbs.com/news/frustration-boils-as-pennsylvania-voters-witness-non-english-speaking-citizens-escorted-past-long-lines-to-vote-report/

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A shocking scene reportedly unfolded at a satellite election office in South Park Ice Rink in Bethel Park, PA, where early voters, who had been waiting for hours, witnessed ‘vanloads’ of ‘non-English-speaking citizens’ allegedly escorted to the front by “translators” to cast their ballots.

According to X user Emma Cawwod, at least “three buses” arrived, with individuals being guided in by representatives from “Vote Today PA,” a vote mobilization group funded by the progressive organization Working Families Power, which advocates for causes like “economic fairness, racial justice, gender equity, climate sustainability.”

Some of these individuals were seen wearing hooded sweatshirts with “Vote Today PA” printed on them.

One witness described a disorganized scene, claiming, “They had these people, they had about 12 of them walked in who were all foreigners, and then they took them up to these younger people help them fill out — they say ‘Vote Today PA’ — and somehow they beat a two-hour line.”

“And then they walked up and the one lady, they were even asking her…they were like, ‘We don’t have you in the system. Your name’s not right.’ And they’re like, ‘Oh, we’ll take it back and change it.’ How do you change your damn name?” the witness added.

 

 

[+Razman]

15 minutes ago, Buzz_Light_Year said:

Meanwhile in PA.

https://loudobbs.com/news/frustration-boils-as-pennsylvania-voters-witness-non-english-speaking-citizens-escorted-past-long-lines-to-vote-report/

 

Maybe they had a flash pass.🤐.  Seriously though , is this originating from an X user? Otherwise I don’t really see the point of some non English speaking people being moved to the front of the line. Assuming they were US citizens , out of curiosity I would wonder what language did they speak? Maybe there was a reason for it , maybe they were handicapped or something. I mean , you’d think everyone there would say something to them, and ask them how come this is , I probably would have. 

Edited October 30 by Razman

[+Razman]

Who is Vote Today PA? Anyway 

[Buzz_Light_Year]

10 minutes ago, Razman said:

Maybe they had a flash pass.🤐.  Seriously though , is this originating from an X user? Otherwise I don’t really see the point of some non English speaking people being moved to the front of the line. Assuming they were US citizens , out of curiosity I would wonder what language did they speak? Maybe there was a reason for it , maybe they were handicapped or something. I mean , you’d think everyone there would say something to them, and ask them how come this is , I probably would have. 

A person has to show at least a little proficiency with the English language to pass the citizenship test. 

I have issues with them being moved to the front of the line for any reason.

[Gromdor]

Eh, It will let the lawyers make some more money after some citizens get dropped like this lady in Texas and they sue for having their Constitutional rights violated: She Supports Trump’s Anti-Immigration Policies. Texas Incorrectly Flagged Her as a “Noncitizen” on Its Voting Rolls.

[Gromdor]

34 minutes ago, Razman said:

Maybe they had a flash pass.🤐.  Seriously though , is this originating from an X user? Otherwise I don’t really see the point of some non English speaking people being moved to the front of the line. Assuming they were US citizens , out of curiosity I would wonder what language did they speak? Maybe there was a reason for it , maybe they were handicapped or something. I mean , you’d think everyone there would say something to them, and ask them how come this is , I probably would have. 

Puerto Ricans are all US citizens but the island speaks Spanish.  Only 50% speak English.

[Buzz_Light_Year]

9 minutes ago, Gromdor said:

Puerto Ricans are all US citizens but the island speaks Spanish.  Only 50% speak English.

They can't vote in Federal elections.

[Gromdor]

Just now, Buzz_Light_Year said:

They can't vote in Federal elections.

Say's who?  They can move to Virginia and vote if they stay long enough for residency...

[+OverSword]

1 hour ago, Buzz_Light_Year said:

if a state can't purge the voter rolls 90 days before election then no one should be allowed to register to vote in the same time frame.

That actually makes perfect sense.

[Buzz_Light_Year]

27 minutes ago, Gromdor said:

Say's who?  They can move to Virginia and vote if they stay long enough for residency...

Constitution says they can't and no mention was made by you about Puerto Ricans living in the continental U.S.. So my reply is correct.

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Puerto Ricans are all US citizens but the island speaks Spanish.

 

[+susieice]

1 hour ago, Buzz_Light_Year said:

A person has to show at least a little proficiency with the English language to pass the citizenship test. 

I have issues with them being moved to the front of the line for any reason.

Speaking English isn't a requirement but they do need to show some proficiency in the language.

Is speaking English a requirement for us citizenship? [2024]