Popular Post +OverSword Posted October 30 Popular Post #1 Share Posted October 30 Quote Half of Generation Z’s voters said they have lied about their votes, according to a new Axios Vibes survey by The Harris Poll. Among the Gen Z voters in the survey, 48 percent said they had previously “lied to” those with whom they are close about which candidates received their votes; 23 percent of all registered voters said they had previously done the same. The survey took place Oct. 22-24, only a few weeks out from Election Day, which will follow a chaotic and heavily polarized campaign season. The 2024 general election brings with it multiple key Senate and House races, as well as a heated competition for the presidency between former President Trump and Vice President Harris. In the Axios and Harris survey, 22 percent of the registered voters said they might “lie about” the candidates they cast their ballot “for in the 2024 election to someone close,” while 78 percent said they wouldn’t. Link This is the world created by internet cancel culture. One in which you fear to be honest with family and friends about voting and more. I myself have been forced into a position of voting for something I don't support, lying about it, or possibly being excommunicated by my family for not following their political religion. 5 2 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+susieice Posted October 30 #2 Share Posted October 30 Tell people it's none of their business. If they're already mad anyway, oh well. 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L.A.T.1961 Posted October 30 #3 Share Posted October 30 I am wondering whether this affects voters equally or one set are more likely to hide their intentions? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrimsonKing Posted October 30 #4 Share Posted October 30 Yep,it has gotten stupid. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edumakated Posted October 30 #5 Share Posted October 30 2 hours ago, OverSword said: Link This is the world created by internet cancel culture. One in which you fear to be honest with family and friends about voting and more. I myself have been forced into a position of voting for something I don't support, lying about it, or possibly being excommunicated by my family for not following their political religion. I suspect it goes more one way than the other... people who lean right ideologically fear the backlash from rabid lefties. 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+OverSword Posted October 30 Author #6 Share Posted October 30 11 minutes ago, Edumakated said: I suspect it goes more one way than the other... people who lean right ideologically fear the backlash from rabid lefties. Absolutely. 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Socks Junior Posted October 30 #7 Share Posted October 30 52 minutes ago, Edumakated said: I suspect it goes more one way than the other... people who lean right ideologically fear the backlash from rabid lefties. You could, perhaps, read the poll. Hint: it doesn't go the way you suspect. 39 minutes ago, OverSword said: Absolutely. You could, perhaps, read the poll. But it'll be a cold day in heck before you read something before posting it. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+OverSword Posted October 30 Author #8 Share Posted October 30 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Doc Socks Junior said: You could, perhaps, read the poll. Hint: it doesn't go the way you suspect. You could, perhaps, read the poll. But it'll be a cold day in heck before you read something before posting it. There is no link to the poll about people feeling the need to lie and what is noted does not say how they voted. Please feel free to post it though. Edited October 30 by OverSword Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Socks Junior Posted October 31 #9 Share Posted October 31 1 hour ago, OverSword said: There is no link to the poll about people feeling the need to lie and what is noted does not say how they voted. Please feel free to post it though. https://www.axios.com/2024/10/30/election-gen-z-voting-lies 27% of Democrats vs 24% of Republicans. One might wish to know about the poll one posts about, and interprets, incorrectly. But that's just me. Obviously, not something you're interested in. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+OverSword Posted October 31 Author #10 Share Posted October 31 3 hours ago, Doc Socks Junior said: https://www.axios.com/2024/10/30/election-gen-z-voting-lies 27% of Democrats vs 24% of Republicans. One might wish to know about the poll one posts about, and interprets, incorrectly. But that's just me. Obviously, not something you're interested in. I posted an article about people being reluctant to share how they vote. In my personal experience as one about to be excommunicated from his family for not voting democrat I identify with the 24% Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Socks Junior Posted October 31 #11 Share Posted October 31 33 minutes ago, OverSword said: I posted an article about people being reluctant to share how they vote. In my personal experience as one about to be excommunicated from his family for not voting democrat I identify with the 24% That's fine. You're allowed to feel that way. However, the split doesn't go the way you and Ed thought it did. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tatetopa Posted October 31 #12 Share Posted October 31 7 hours ago, Edumakated said: I suspect it goes more one way than the other... people who lean right ideologically fear the backlash from rabid lefties. Well that is half of the arch. The other half is liberals undercover to stay out of trouble. One example, a child of voting age still living at home whose parents are very right wing. Another example, a liberal working in a very conservative industry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gromdor Posted October 31 #13 Share Posted October 31 19 minutes ago, Tatetopa said: Well that is half of the arch. The other half is liberals undercover to stay out of trouble. One example, a child of voting age still living at home whose parents are very right wing. Another example, a liberal working in a very conservative industry. I would say where they live matters too. Living in deep blue Chicago, Edumakated would not experience what someone living in say deep red rural Texas would experience. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psyche101 Posted October 31 #14 Share Posted October 31 8 hours ago, CrimsonKing said: Yep,it has gotten stupid. Got? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golden Duck Posted October 31 #15 Share Posted October 31 5 hours ago, OverSword said: I posted an article about people being reluctant to share how they vote. In my personal experience as one about to be excommunicated from his family for not voting democrat I identify with the 24% That's why Trafalgar ask respondents what way others will vote. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+DieChecker Posted October 31 #16 Share Posted October 31 Probably the 50% who lied will not vote anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trelane Posted October 31 #17 Share Posted October 31 Ok, so who voted for Dukakis then? 🤣 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+OverSword Posted October 31 Author #18 Share Posted October 31 10 hours ago, Doc Socks Junior said: That's fine. You're allowed to feel that way. However, the split doesn't go the way you and Ed thought it did. Not for GenZ, who the article was about. I'm not a part of that demographic. I would also say it's a fair bet that we on the left coast face more pushback if we are not democrats. when is the last time your state was red? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edumakated Posted October 31 #19 Share Posted October 31 9 hours ago, Gromdor said: I would say where they live matters too. Living in deep blue Chicago, Edumakated would not experience what someone living in say deep red rural Texas would experience. My personal experience is that conservatives are far more forgiving than liberals when it comes to disagreements. There are some policies that I disagree with conservatives on and have had good robust debates and no hard feelings. We just agree to disagree and remain friends. On the other hand, it is taking a big risk to publicly out yourself disagreeing with liberal talking points even on say one or two issues. You will be quickly branded a racist, fascist, maga, etc and ultimately cancelled... 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+DieChecker Posted October 31 #20 Share Posted October 31 (edited) 56 minutes ago, Edumakated said: My personal experience is that conservatives are far more forgiving than liberals when it comes to disagreements. As witnessed by Bezos.. and the Washington Post losing 250,000 subscribers. But... But... They (Liberals) don't believe in bullying, or revenge, or pressing their opinions on others... RIGHT!!! Sure they don't... Edited October 31 by DieChecker 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+DieChecker Posted October 31 #21 Share Posted October 31 56 minutes ago, Edumakated said: You will be quickly branded a racist, fascist, maga, etc and ultimately cancelled... I'm not a big fan of Trump, but I end up defending him when these far left people start in with just open lies that they call The Truth. I wish I didn't have to. They're level of rabid stupid makes me want to vote Trump out of pure Spite. Right now I'm about 20/0/80. 20% likely to vote Trump. 0% to vote Harris. And 80% likely to vote None. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cho Jinn Posted October 31 #22 Share Posted October 31 3 hours ago, Trelane said: Ok, so who voted for Dukakis then? 🤣 My dad (and I myself for a few years) worked for General Dynamics for an extended time and was there when Dukakis' infamous tank photo shoot took place. His campaign insisted on getting him in a tank, despite dad's team's advice that he'd would not look right given his stature and the loader's seat on which he was standing being so low. Their advice was disregarded, and the rest is history. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trelane Posted October 31 #23 Share Posted October 31 (edited) 52 minutes ago, Cho Jinn said: My dad (and I myself for a few years) worked for General Dynamics for an extended time and was there when Dukakis' infamous tank photo shoot took place. His campaign insisted on getting him in a tank, despite dad's team's advice that he'd would not look right given his stature and the loader's seat on which he was standing being so low. Their advice was disregarded, and the rest is history. It is interesting going back through different election cycles uncovering some of those types of missteps. That one though, oh boy. https://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2008/01/17/the-photo-op-that-tanked "Bush used that image in an ad describing you as soft on defense. The irony is that you supported a buildup in conventional weapons like tanks." "I was at the tank factory to make that point, obviously. Now, should I have been in the tank? Probably not, in retrospect. But these days when people ask me, "Did you get here in a tank?" I always respond by saying, "No, and I've never thrown up all over the Japanese prime minister." But, you know, things happen." Edited October 31 by Trelane 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Portre Posted October 31 #24 Share Posted October 31 We are supposed to believe they told the truth on the survey that they lied about their votes 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Socks Junior Posted October 31 #25 Share Posted October 31 1 hour ago, DieChecker said: As witnessed by Bezos.. and the Washington Post losing 250,000 subscribers. But... But... They (Liberals) don't believe in bullying, or revenge, or pressing their opinions on others... RIGHT!!! Sure they don't... Go woke go broke...something I've heard quite a bit. I'm sure Bezos feels very bullied by the purple-haired straw person who canceled their subscription. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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