UM-Bot Posted November 3 #1 Share Posted November 3 Brian Sterling-Vete maintains that intelligent paranormal entities may actually have a limited lifespan. https://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/news/382182/ghosts-may-die-after-lifespan-of-100-years-researcher-claims 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buzz_Light_Year Posted November 3 #2 Share Posted November 3 @XenoFish Well this might be the reason for the absence of Dinosaur ghosts. 1 1 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antigonos Posted November 3 #3 Share Posted November 3 “Researcher” 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Djehuty Posted November 3 #4 Share Posted November 3 In Egypt, there are alleged ghost sightings where people claim to have seen the spirits of some pharaohs. In the Valley of the Kings, for example. If they really have seen such spirits, one thing is clear. These spirits are older than just 100 years. So much for the theory of the 100-year lifespan of ghosts. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Homestead Posted November 3 #5 Share Posted November 3 Ghosts that haunt or linger after death for an extended amount of time, would be ghosts that didn't have closure, that are stuck in regrets, anger or feel there's unfinished business. Or they judge themselves and feel not worthy of the light, which you could see as hell. It would be logical, that when a ghost does find peace eventually, he or she would merge with the light, or conscious energy, and seem to be disappeared, or dead. The ghost-fase would then be only a fase, a fase between life and really moving on. That is, if ghosts and the afterlife are real. I believe it is. I believe consciousness is not fabricated by a piece of meat, just as AI will never be conscious. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Homestead Posted November 3 #6 Share Posted November 3 @Djehuty I think the afterlife, also for ghosts, would be timeless. Thinking in time and years is merely for the living I think. But you have a good point regarding the article. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
esoteric_toad Posted November 3 #7 Share Posted November 3 So roughly 56 million people die each year (since the beginning of the 21st century). If 1/1000th of them became ghosts that would leave 1.28 MILLION ghosts floating about. That is just in the last 23 years. Sounds like an arbitrary rule to explain the LACK of ghosts to me. JMO of course. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papageorge1 Posted November 3 #8 Share Posted November 3 My understanding is that typical ghosts are of people who have died with a strong attraction yet to things of the earth plane. They will eventually go to the light and get an afterlife. Would suck to be haunting an old mansion forever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papageorge1 Posted November 3 #9 Share Posted November 3 26 minutes ago, esoteric_toad said: So roughly 56 million people die each year (since the beginning of the 21st century). If 1/1000th of them became ghosts that would leave 1.28 MILLION ghosts floating about. That is just in the last 23 years. Sounds like an arbitrary rule to explain the LACK of ghosts to me. JMO of course. As I understand things most people move on quickly to higher planes and don't linger as roaming ghosts. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Wearer of Hats Posted November 3 #10 Share Posted November 3 The black monk of Pontifract sort of put pay to that idea, IMO. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antigonos Posted November 3 #11 Share Posted November 3 (edited) 3 hours ago, Djehuty said: In Egypt, there are alleged ghost sightings where people claim to have seen the spirits of some pharaohs. In the Valley of the Kings, for example. If they really have seen such spirits, one thing is clear. These spirits are older than just 100 years. So much for the theory of the 100-year lifespan of ghosts. Whoever he is, he’s not familiar with this subject in the slightest. There were contemporary accounts of normal everyday Egyptians encountering ghosts. One of the most famous is a man who’s written a letter to his deceased wife imploring her to stop haunting him and creating disturbances in their house. There are accounts from ancient Greece as well. I don’t know of any modern day reports of ancient ghosts but it doesn’t matter, there are plenty of others much older than a century that are supposedly still happening. More recently in time you have the Tower of London, allegedly one of the most haunted locations in the world, with dozens of stories spanning nearly a thousand years. There are countless “haunted” castles, manor houses, rectories, inns, churches, abbeys and other locations throughout the European continent and the British Isles, all of whose histories are far older than a century. Even the Victorian era ended over a century ago. I’ve barely scratched the surface here, and I haven’t even included the rest of the world. Whether or not one believes in the authenticity of the phenomena themselves, these accounts have been with Mankind for literally millenia. If this “researcher” thinks the phenomena are genuine, he’s either going to have to reconcile his hypothesis as it is to this fact or spend a lot of his future time reading to get himself up to date. Good luck with that. Edited November 3 by Antigonos 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antigonos Posted November 3 #12 Share Posted November 3 1 hour ago, esoteric_toad said: So roughly 56 million people die each year (since the beginning of the 21st century). If 1/1000th of them became ghosts that would leave 1.28 MILLION ghosts floating about. That is just in the last 23 years. Sounds like an arbitrary rule to explain the LACK of ghosts to me. JMO of course. That occurred to me too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vox Posted November 3 #13 Share Posted November 3 3 hours ago, Djehuty said: In Egypt, there are alleged ghost sightings where people claim to have seen the spirits of some pharaohs. In the Valley of the Kings, for example. If they really have seen such spirits, one thing is clear. These spirits are older than just 100 years. So much for the theory of the 100-year lifespan of ghosts. Mate. These were cosplayers. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
openozy Posted November 3 #14 Share Posted November 3 5 hours ago, Djehuty said: In Egypt, there are alleged ghost sightings where people claim to have seen the spirits of some pharaohs. In the Valley of the Kings, for example. If they really have seen such spirits, one thing is clear. These spirits are older than just 100 years. So much for the theory of the 100-year lifespan of ghosts. I think these are not spirit ghost but stone tape replays. I believe actual spirits may be held here by living people not wanting them to go forever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex_Rogan Posted November 4 #15 Share Posted November 4 I was gonna make a joke about being concerned with dinosaur ghosts, but apparently I'm not the only one. Now what am I supposed to think of the thunder lizard apparition in my backyard? Maybe I should get a Camero. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fred_mc Posted November 4 #16 Share Posted November 4 Are we talking about ghosts or energy memories? Psychics differ between those. They claim that when a strong emotion occurs, it can be imprinted, so that we can see the event over and over again. That's called an energy memory. I would guess that that could become weaker with time. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MissJatti Posted November 4 #17 Share Posted November 4 So you die, and then die again? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antigonos Posted November 4 #18 Share Posted November 4 9 hours ago, fred_mc said: Are we talking about ghosts or energy memories? Psychics differ between those. They claim that when a strong emotion occurs, it can be imprinted, so that we can see the event over and over again. That's called an energy memory. I would guess that that could become weaker with time. I can buy that if the “residual haunting” hypothesis has any merit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antigonos Posted November 4 #19 Share Posted November 4 15 hours ago, openozy said: I think these are not spirit ghost but stone tape replays. I believe actual spirits may be held here by living people not wanting them to go forever. Have you seen the British movie The Stone Tape that this theory gets its name from? It’s really good. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ell Posted November 4 #20 Share Posted November 4 On 11/3/2024 at 6:10 PM, UM-Bot said: Brian Sterling-Vete maintains that intelligent paranormal entities may actually have a limited lifespan. Do they have organs, like kidneys and a spleen for example? If they have a gut, do they have a gut microbiome? Does that hypothetical gut microbiome also have a limited lifespan? Would these entities produce feces? How much would half a gram of paranormal entities feces be worth? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
openozy Posted November 5 #21 Share Posted November 5 8 hours ago, Antigonos said: Have you seen the British movie The Stone Tape that this theory gets its name from? It’s really good. No, it sounds a good show, I'll look for it👍. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iAlrakis Posted November 5 #22 Share Posted November 5 That doesn't sound to weird. I've always considered ghosts as a form of energy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twas Brillig Posted November 5 #23 Share Posted November 5 On 11/3/2024 at 11:10 AM, Antigonos said: “Researcher” Antigonos would then make you a snide armchair critic. Why do people like you make accounts on this forum if that's all you do? Do you have anything useful to contribute? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ell Posted November 5 #24 Share Posted November 5 No matter how much I searched and re-searched I haven't found any ghost poo. I suspect that either there isn't any - or that there are no ghosts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XenoFish Posted November 5 #25 Share Posted November 5 On 11/4/2024 at 6:11 AM, MissJatti said: So you die, and then die again? The third times a charm. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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