ExpandMyMind Posted November 4 #1 Share Posted November 4 Quote Thousands of supporters of former president Donald Trump have been trained how to pressure local election officials to refuse to certify the vote ahead of November's election, according to a new report from Lawfare. David Clements, a former law professor who gained notoriety promoting Trump's baseless claims about the 2020 election being stolen from him, has hosted training sessions across the county, billed as a "Gideon 300" tour—named for the biblical figure who defeated a vast army with just 300 men. This year, he has hosted events attended by thousands of people in at least 40 counties in more than a dozen states, including battlegrounds Georgia, Michigan, North Carolina and Pennsylvania, according to Lawfare. Clements has been crisscrossing the country rallying Trump supporters to learn how to pressure local leaders to withhold certification of future elections. He pivoted to polling management training after leaving his university job following several disputes with administrators, as The Washington Post and Reuters reported in 2022. https://www.newsweek.com/trump-supporters-mobilized-block-election-certification-1978435 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trelane Posted November 4 #2 Share Posted November 4 If this is/were true they would be now tracked by the FBI and Homeland Security. Not a smart move, if true. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+and-then Posted November 5 #3 Share Posted November 5 Until the steal in 2020 there was never any widespread resistance to CHALLENGING an election's results. Apparently citizens no longer have that right unless they vote Dem. What happened in 2020 is NOT going to happen again without consequences. Millions of Americans will simply refuse to acknowledge Harris no matter how much bool ****e the media spews or even the courts refusing AGAIN to step in when there is obvious irregularities. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+and-then Posted November 5 #4 Share Posted November 5 6 hours ago, Trelane said: If this is/were true they would be now tracked by the FBI and Homeland Security. Not a smart move, if true. From the piece: "You have to create a righteous, sober-minded, well-spoken, articulate mob, if you will, because that's the only thing that will work short of where we're headed, which is a kinetic civil war—if we don't get this resolved peacefully," he told trainees at a meeting inside a church in Georgia in September, according to Lawfare. THIS^ is the reality America will face this time around. tens of millions of us simply will not be cowed in the same way again. No violence needed to organize a peaceful resistance through civil disobedience. Unless, of course, DC tries to crush it with force. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Socks Junior Posted November 5 #5 Share Posted November 5 9 minutes ago, and-then said: Until the steal in 2020 there was never any widespread resistance to CHALLENGING an election's results. Apparently citizens no longer have that right unless they vote Dem. What happened in 2020 is NOT going to happen again without consequences. Millions of Americans will simply refuse to acknowledge Harris no matter how much bool ****e the media spews or even the courts refusing AGAIN to step in when there is obvious irregularities. There wasn't a steal in 2020. Trump's attempt to steal the election was foiled. I think you're a little confused, chief. Was this another fantasy? 2 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExpandMyMind Posted November 5 Author #6 Share Posted November 5 11 minutes ago, and-then said: Until the steal in 2020 there was never any widespread resistance to CHALLENGING an election's results There was a steal in 2020? You should take your finding to the courts. 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UFO_Monster Posted November 5 #7 Share Posted November 5 18 minutes ago, and-then said: Until the steal in 2020 there was never any widespread resistance to CHALLENGING an election's results. Apparently citizens no longer have that right unless they vote Dem. What happened in 2020 is NOT going to happen again without consequences. Millions of Americans will simply refuse to acknowledge Harris no matter how much bool ****e the media spews or even the courts refusing AGAIN to step in when there is obvious irregularities. You probably believe kids are getting sex-change operations in public schools too. 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psyche101 Posted November 5 #8 Share Posted November 5 It's a real shame that such measures need to be taken. Maga is the worst thing to happen to America for a long time 3 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tatetopa Posted November 5 #9 Share Posted November 5 17 minutes ago, psyche101 said: It's a real shame that such measures need to be taken. Maga is the worst thing to happen to America for a long time Remember the MSG rally was famous because of the famous NAZI rally held there was 1939. That must have been a pretty hateful time. But I think there some very bad times during integration, and a lot of hate across the country during that period. And you recall, the 50's seem to be that nostalgic era that MAGA wants to return to. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psyche101 Posted November 5 #10 Share Posted November 5 13 minutes ago, Tatetopa said: Remember the MSG rally was famous because of the famous NAZI rally held there was 1939. That must have been a pretty hateful time. But I think there some very bad times during integration, and a lot of hate across the country during that period. And you recall, the 50's seem to be that nostalgic era that MAGA wants to return to. True true. And I've mentioned Woodstock 99 a couple times. It doesn't take much to get off the rails. It just seems everything bad about America lately seems to stem back to Maga. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+and-then Posted November 5 #11 Share Posted November 5 1 hour ago, UFO_Monster said: You probably believe kids are getting sex-change operations in public schools too. What does sex change insanity have to do with one party now refusing to acknowledge anyone's right to question electoral results? It has been a time-honored tradition until 2020. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UFO_Monster Posted November 5 #12 Share Posted November 5 Just now, and-then said: What does sex change insanity have to do with one party now refusing to acknowledge anyone's right to question electoral results? It has been a time-honored tradition until 2020. If you can't see the point I'm making, I can't help you. Questioning the results of the election isn't what people have had issues with. It's that the capitol was invaded almost four years ago by an angry mob, at the behest of a sore loser who kept claiming he was the victor before all votes were tallied. The same politician also made a claim that sex changes are occurring because of surgical operations in public schools and people have ran with it ever since. That is insanity, my friend. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tatetopa Posted November 5 #13 Share Posted November 5 1 hour ago, psyche101 said: It just seems everything bad about America lately seems to stem back to Maga. I think it has always been here, MAGA is the standard bearer today. On the positive side, they seem to have a fierce desire for their own personal freedom. When it becomes negative is when they do not respect the freedom of others. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Link of Hyrule Posted November 5 #14 Share Posted November 5 (edited) 1 hour ago, Tatetopa said: Remember the MSG rally was famous because of the famous NAZI rally held there was 1939. MSG was also where we got our first Wrestlemania, kick-starting an icon of modern pop culture. It's where Trumpamania ran wild mirroring Hulkamania. That seems to be the level of comparison to a random Nazi event on a random date in 1939. Edited November 5 by Link of Hyrule Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
godnodog Posted November 5 #15 Share Posted November 5 12 minutes ago, Link of Hyrule said: MSG was also where we got our first Wrestlemania, kick-starting an icon of modern pop culture. It's where Trumpamania ran riot mirroring Hulkamania. That seems to be the level of comparison to a random Nazi event on a random date in 1939. was wondering what MSG was...i needed the Wrestlemania reference to get it was Madison Square Garden, thanks 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unusual Tournament Posted November 5 #16 Share Posted November 5 (edited) 3 hours ago, and-then said: Until the steal in 2020 there was never any widespread resistance to CHALLENGING an election's results. Apparently citizens no longer have that right unless they vote Dem. What happened in 2020 is NOT going to happen again without consequences. Millions of Americans will simply refuse to acknowledge Harris no matter how much bool ****e the media spews or even the courts refusing AGAIN to step in when there is obvious irregularities. I put that down to Trump, as would most other logical observers. I sincerely hope the lawyers and senior republicans are lined up to make sure of no repeat of the Trump shenanigans in 2020. Harris is gonna win 🏆 and the election results needs to be respected otherwise this civil war you speak so often of will be become a reality when Trump and horde are locked up for good! Edited November 5 by Unusual Tournament 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unusual Tournament Posted November 5 #17 Share Posted November 5 2 hours ago, psyche101 said: True true. And I've mentioned Woodstock 99 a couple times. It doesn't take much to get off the rails. It just seems everything bad about America lately seems to stem back to Maga. It’s bad alright with its wackiness and cult following. I can’t see the MAGA movement being absorbed and rehabilitated back into mainstream republican politics. I think the movement will survive and morph into a third party in America politics. Since it will draw mainly from the GOP this will keep the democrats strong for a long time 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psyche101 Posted November 5 #18 Share Posted November 5 1 hour ago, Unusual Tournament said: It’s bad alright with its wackiness and cult following. I can’t see the MAGA movement being absorbed and rehabilitated back into mainstream republican politics. I think the movement will survive and morph into a third party in America politics. Since it will draw mainly from the GOP this will keep the democrats strong for a long time I agree. Do you think the movement will maintain itself after Trump is gone? If he does miss out again, he's not going to run again in four years surely. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psyche101 Posted November 5 #19 Share Posted November 5 1 hour ago, Unusual Tournament said: It’s bad alright with its wackiness and cult following. I can’t see the MAGA movement being absorbed and rehabilitated back into mainstream republican politics. I think the movement will survive and morph into a third party in America politics. Since it will draw mainly from the GOP this will keep the democrats strong for a long time Harris up by 1.2 points. https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/president-general/2024/national/ 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
godnodog Posted November 5 #20 Share Posted November 5 (edited) 48 minutes ago, psyche101 said: I agree. Do you think the movement will maintain itself after Trump is gone? If he does miss out again, he's not going to run again in four years surely. Regardless of who wins, if new checks (don't know what the current ones are) are not set in place and actively and quickly applied to bs like those done in the last elections, it will allow to others to use the same BS Trump has being pulling, and my statement is based on the lack of courts siding with Trumps claims of fraud back then and until now (to my knowledge) Edited November 5 by godnodog 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Sherapy Posted November 5 #21 Share Posted November 5 6 hours ago, and-then said: Until the steal in 2020 there was never any widespread resistance to CHALLENGING an election's results. Apparently citizens no longer have that right unless they vote Dem. What happened in 2020 is NOT going to happen again without consequences. Millions of Americans will simply refuse to acknowledge Harris no matter how much bool ****e the media spews or even the courts refusing AGAIN to step in when there is obvious irregularities. There was no stolen election. Trump lost, period. It is not rocket science. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
preacherman76 Posted November 5 #22 Share Posted November 5 5 hours ago, psyche101 said: It's a real shame that such measures need to be taken. Maga is the worst thing to happen to America for a long time Globalism is the worst thing that’s happened to America. Maga while still falling short, represents the spirit of resistance many of us grew up believing America to be. I imagine you would have took Englands side in the revolutionary war. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
preacherman76 Posted November 5 #23 Share Posted November 5 20 minutes ago, Sherapy said: There was no stolen election. Trump lost, period. It is not rocket science. Sure it was. Heck this election right now is full of fraud and deceit. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Sherapy Posted November 5 #24 Share Posted November 5 1 hour ago, preacherman76 said: Sure it was. Heck this election right now is full of fraud and deceit. For you PM, you maintain the position that trump just couldn’t lose an election this is simply evidence of your own confirmation bias, not the actuality. Trump lost 2020. Regardless of whether you believe it or not is immaterial, trump lost. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Sherapy Posted November 5 #25 Share Posted November 5 (edited) 3 hours ago, psyche101 said: Harris up by 1.2 points. https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/president-general/2024/national/ Well she does have an army of support behind her. It is incredible the enthusiasm this candidate has gathered. Regardless, of outcome thank you for your support Andy. Edited November 5 by Sherapy 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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