The Americans Prepping for a Second Civil War

[+OverSword]

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“Did he say fight?” Drew Miller asked me. It was July 13th, and we were in rural Colorado, near an outpost of Fortitude Ranch, a network of survivalist retreats that Miller has constructed in anticipation of civilizational collapse. News of the attempted assassination of Donald Trump—the first one—had just pinged: a young man named Thomas Crooks had shot at Trump from a rooftop near a rally in Butler, Pennsylvania, striking his right ear. Trump had stood, with blood on his face, and shouted to his crowd, “Fight, fight, fight!” The shooter’s motives were unknown, but Republicans were blaming Democrats. “File charges against Joseph R. Biden for inciting an assassination,” Representative Mike Collins posted on X. Representative Marjorie Taylor Greene accused the “evil” Democratic Party of attempting “murder.” Miller’s phone began to make the sound of a dog barking—his ringtone—as members and employees of the ranches sent texts and e-mails.

A salesperson in Nevada was seeing a sudden increase in requests to join: “Member interest. I’m already getting previous leads texting me.”

 

The Americans Prepping for a Second Civil War | The New Yorker

I'm going to predict there will be no civil war.  I will also predict this guy running Fortitude Ranch is making a bundle from people's fears.

[+Desertrat56]

I agree with you.   I am prepping for not being able to pay my utility bills because no matter who wins as president prices will go up on everything.

[Wakka25]

Whoever wins one thing is certain the country will be ever more polarized. 

[Wakka25]

5 minutes ago, OverSword said:

I doubt if it will be if Harris is elected.  If Harris is elected the Republican party will start a purge of their more extreme people such as MTG and both side will start working across the aisle more.  If Trump wins that will happen in four years.

Harris was the worst rated VP in history of the poll. She had 92% staff turnover. These traits suggest she'll be very polarizing even within her own party. 

[HandsomeGorilla]

1 hour ago, ExpandMyMind said:

You don't have to be clairvoyant to see there will be no revolution. You just have to look at the attendees of a Trump rally.

On a warm enough day those lard deposits would fuse together.

No one expects the Gravy Seals!

SEMPER PIE!

[+OverSword]

1 minute ago, Wakka25 said:

Harris was the worst rated VP in history of the poll. She had 92% staff turnover. These traits suggest she'll be very polarizing even within her own party. 

I'm not a fan.  Just predicting an overall trend.  If Trump wins there will be four more years of strong division and if Harris wins the republican party will start to remake itself to be more functional.

[Wakka25]

2 minutes ago, OverSword said:

I'm not a fan.  Just predicting an overall trend.  If Trump wins there will be four more years of strong division and if Harris wins the republican party will start to remake itself to be more functional.

Good luck with that. 

[ExpandMyMind]

38 minutes ago, OverSword said:

That's an opinion.  Some people are more concerned with policy than personality.  Nobody knows what Harris's real personality or policy is.  She's a chameleon otherwise known as a politician that will take any stance necessary to get votes.

Bro, you've just created a whole thread to discuss the possibility that these *******s will attempt a civil war. They've been calling for one for 4 years, many on this very forum.

That alone shows you how warped these cultists' minds are. They deserve no respect.

[+OverSword]

4 minutes ago, ExpandMyMind said:

Bro, you've just created a whole thread to discuss the possibility that these *******s will attempt a civil war. They've been calling for one for 4 years, many on this very forum.

That alone shows you how warped these cultists' minds are. They deserve no respect.

I posted an article from the New Yorker Magazine and clearly state I disagree and that there will not be a civil war.  I thought you Englishmen read?  I know a lot of doom and gloom types are interested so I posted something to create a discussion about it.

Edited November 4 by OverSword

[Sir Wearer of Hats]

46 minutes ago, OverSword said:

That's an opinion.  Some people are more concerned with policy than personality.  Nobody knows what Harris's real personality or policy is.  She's a chameleon otherwise known as a politician that will take any stance necessary to get votes.

I doubt if it will be if Harris is elected.  If Harris is elected the Republican party will start a purge of their more extreme people such as MTG and both sides will start working across the aisle more.  If Trump wins that will happen after four years.

I don’t know … I think you’ll be correct if this election is entirely fair and no one can make “allegations” like last time. 
But if anything hinky happens, anything even vaguely potentially “odd” can be spun from what happens … it’ll be on like Donkey Kong. 

[ExpandMyMind]

17 minutes ago, OverSword said:

I posted an article from the New Yorker Magazine and clearly state I disagree and that there will not be a civil war.  I thought you Englishmen read?  I know a lot of doom and gloom types are interested so I posted something to create a discussion about it.

Next time I see an Englishman I'll be sure to ask them.

[+Razman]

47 minutes ago, Sir Wearer of Hats said:

I don’t know … I think you’ll be correct if this election is entirely fair and no one can make “allegations” like last time. 
But if anything hinky happens, anything even vaguely potentially “odd” can be spun from what happens … it’ll be on like Donkey Kong. 

If Trump loses do you think he would spin up trouble no matter what the election looks like? My main point being , he's done it before.

Edited November 4 by Razman

[+OverSword]

1 minute ago, ExpandMyMind said:

Next time I see an Englishman I'll be sure to ask them.

Thought you were one.  My bad.  

[Sir Wearer of Hats]

9 minutes ago, Razman said:

If Trump loses do you think he would spin up trouble no matter what the election looks like?

I think he’s try, but without “evidence” even his most devout will go “nah, we done lost. Run in 2028!” 

[Tatetopa]

4 minutes ago, Razman said:

If Trump loses do you think he would spin up trouble no matter what the election looks like?

Yes.  He will fight to stay out of jail.  He would do anything necessary, even rip the country apart to protect himself. 

 

1 hour ago, ExpandMyMind said:

You don't have to be clairvoyant to see there will be no revolution. You just have to look at the attendees of a Trump rally.

On a warm enough day those lard deposits would fuse together.

It won't be these people.  It will be proud Boys and militias,  who will be in the forefront. I wouldn't doubt that some crazies also try to shoot FBI and other government officials.

Right now, Republicans are putting out false polls showing they are winning.  That lie sets the groundwork for Trump supporters calling the election fake. 

[+Razman]

54 minutes ago, Wakka25 said:

Harris was the worst rated VP in history of the poll. She had 92% staff turnover. These traits suggest she'll be very polarizing even within her own party. 

I believe that was early in the adjustment period , then it stabilized .I believe a large portion of her current staff have supported her and are praising her leadership these days. I'll give the Republican lawmakers credit though , they have been doing what they have to lately to kiss the ring and stick it out to help Republicans try to win. Otherwise i get the feeling they don't care for Trump one bit. And many of them have said so , and where is his previous staff now? Mostly backing Harris? In the earlier stages of the campaign , it was not pretty between the Repub lawmakers and Trump. But when he started winning the primaries , one by one they came kissing the ring.

Edited November 4 by Razman

[+OverSword]

6 minutes ago, Tatetopa said:

Yes.  He will fight to stay out of jail.  He would do anything necessary, even rip the country apart to protect himself. 

 

It won't be these people.  It will be proud Boys and militias,  who will be in the forefront. I wouldn't doubt that some crazies also try to shoot FBI and other government officials.

Right now, Republicans are putting out false polls showing they are winning.  That lie sets the groundwork for Trump supporters calling the election fake. 

Check the right hand where the forecast is.  The Hill is not Republican

https://thehill.com/

[Tatetopa]

1 minute ago, OverSword said:

Check the right hand where the forecast is.  The Hill is not Republican

Very true.

[DarkHunter]

12 minutes ago, Tatetopa said:

Right now, Republicans are putting out false polls showing they are winning.  That lie sets the groundwork for Trump supporters calling the election fake.

What false polls cause a lot of reputable polls show Trump lead or a tie

[Antigonos]

Oh please.  Civil war my a$$.
 

And certain states threatened to secede when Obama got re-elected and again when Trump lost. This is just the latest temper tantrum thrown by right wing extremists.

Just like with the Jan 6 insurrectionists, the second it gets real for them and the arrests start and they start getting shot they’re going to start whining like little bitches and crying victim feigning outrage. And once again Trump won’t do a thing for any of these useful idiots.

Magats are the biggest snowflakes.

[+OverSword]

4 minutes ago, Antigonos said:

Oh please.  Civil war my a$$.
 

And certain states threatened to secede when Obama got re-elected and again when Trump lost. This is just the latest temper tantrum thrown by right wing extremists.

Just like with the Jan 6 insurrectionists, the second it gets real for them and the arrests start and they start getting shot they’re going to start whining like little bitches and crying victim feigning outrage. And once again Trump won’t do a thing for any of these useful idiots.

Magats are the biggest snowflakes.

I predict if trump wins he will pardon all Jan 6 charges.

[Tatetopa]

1 hour ago, DarkHunter said:

What false polls cause a lot of reputable polls show Trump lead or a tie

https://newrepublic.com/article/187425/gop-polls-rigging-averages-trump

“Red Wave” Redux: Are GOP Polls Rigging the Averages in Trump’s Favor?

Polling by right-leaning firms has exploded this cycle. Maybe they want to be accurate—or maybe they’re trying to create a sense of momentum for Donald Trump.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/nov/01/republicans-donald-trump-polls-us-election-lawsuits

 

Republicans preparing to reject US election result if Trump loses, warn strategists

Polling experts point to ‘fake polls’ exaggerating his support, with baseless lawsuits alleging fraud already filed

[+OverSword]

20 minutes ago, Tatetopa said:

https://newrepublic.com/article/187425/gop-polls-rigging-averages-trump

“Red Wave” Redux: Are GOP Polls Rigging the Averages in Trump’s Favor?

Polling by right-leaning firms has exploded this cycle. Maybe they want to be accurate—or maybe they’re trying to create a sense of momentum for Donald Trump.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/nov/01/republicans-donald-trump-polls-us-election-lawsuits

 

Republicans preparing to reject US election result if Trump loses, warn strategists

Polling experts point to ‘fake polls’ exaggerating his support, with baseless lawsuits alleging fraud already filed

I have a better theory.  left leaning polls are fixing the polls to lean toward Trump in order to scare more Harrison voters to the polls 

God Bless America I can't wait until Wednesday.

[Cho Jinn]

1 hour ago, OverSword said:

I predict if trump wins he will pardon all Jan 6 charges.

Probably Hunter Biden, too.  There will be no civil war, at least in the pew pew sense, and the states are pretty interdependent on resources.  An official, state-sanctioned boycott on anything from another would not likely be supported writ large, or enduring as a practical matter.

Now, will anyone threatening to Move to Canada™ actually do so?  Sadly, of course not.

[Hankenhunter]

5 hours ago, ExpandMyMind said:

You don't have to be clairvoyant to see there will be no revolution. You just have to look at the attendees of a Trump rally.

On a warm enough day those lard deposits would fuse together.

Here's an example of what happens when you diss the AV guys at your rallies.

https://m.fark.com/goto/13450680/www.threads.net/@jklappenbach/post/DB5eE7ctkup%3Fxmt%3DAQGz76ANokLcr35KyUA9h4-uALF0MH99AMAQHr38IKXnO