Popular Post Claira Posted November 6 Popular Post #1 Share Posted November 6 It was supposed to be everything short of a free ad – a panel of women not containing their excitement to welcome Kamala Harris, ready to introduce her to their committed daytime audience of exactly the type of women the vice president’s campaign always hoped were going to be critical to her base. It was a moment that encapsulated one of the biggest challenges facing her campaign – which, in the end, proved insurmountable. https://www.cnn.com/2024/11/06/politics/harris-campaign-went-wrong/index.html 8 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post glorybebe Posted November 6 Popular Post #2 Share Posted November 6 She was the wrong candidate. She would go off on tangents in answered that had nothing to do with the question. She didn't fulfill her duties as VP, how was she going to handle being president? 13 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claira Posted November 6 Author #3 Share Posted November 6 25 minutes ago, glorybebe said: She was the wrong candidate. She would go off on tangents in answered that had nothing to do with the question. She didn't fulfill her duties as VP, how was she going to handle being president? Harris was most definitely the wrong candidate, I agree. Biden should have taken himself out of the running a great deal sooner than he did and Harris, an already flawed candidate, could not, or would not, escape his shadow and the not so perfect track record of his administration around key issues. She also did not have the self-confidence to select a strong running mate such as Shapiro — something I've still no forgiven her for. The Democrats should have selected someone who possessed the gravitas of a world leader — someone with a hard approach and viable solutions to important issues such as the economy and immigration — not someone who campaigned more on 'vibes' than they did policy. 7 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post glorybebe Posted November 6 Popular Post #4 Share Posted November 6 And calling out the male black voters really didn't help. That actually turned voters against them. As one black male youtuber said he felt they were saying he was too stupid to know his own mind. 10 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itsnotoutthere Posted November 6 #5 Share Posted November 6 (edited) One of the comments below the video :- "Thank goodness Kamala clarified that the stuff is not just stuff but fundamental stuff. I feel like a huge burden has been lifted about the stuff that has been because the stuff is indeed fundamental stuff. Vote for Kamala if you believe in solving world hunger with word salad." Edited November 6 by itsnotoutthere 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Razman Posted November 6 #6 Share Posted November 6 1 hour ago, Claira said: Harris was most definitely the wrong candidate, I agree. Biden should have taken himself out of the running a great deal sooner than he did and Harris, an already flawed candidate, could not, or would not, escape his shadow and the not so perfect track record of his administration around key issues. She also did not have the self-confidence to select a strong running mate such as Shapiro — something I've still no forgiven her for. The Democrats should have selected someone who possessed the gravitas of a world leader — someone with a hard approach and viable solutions to important issues such as the economy and immigration — not someone who campaigned more on 'vibes' than they did policy. They could have done a lot more, indeed they could have brought someone in a long time ago to replace Biden , they could have done something about the border a lot longer ago , instead of waiting around til the last minute. Which would have limited the ammunition the Republicans had to talk against them. They knew this time would come a long time ago , yet they lolly gagged around. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrimsonKing Posted November 6 #7 Share Posted November 6 1 hour ago, Claira said: Harris was most definitely the wrong candidate, I agree. Biden should have taken himself out of the running a great deal sooner than he did and Harris, an already flawed candidate, could not, or would not, escape his shadow and the not so perfect track record of his administration around key issues. She also did not have the self-confidence to select a strong running mate such as Shapiro — something I've still no forgiven her for. The Democrats should have selected someone who possessed the gravitas of a world leader — someone with a hard approach and viable solutions to important issues such as the economy and immigration — not someone who campaigned more on 'vibes' than they did policy. Newsom as I said,would have been their best bet... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duke Wellington Posted November 6 #8 Share Posted November 6 2 hours ago, Claira said: It was supposed to be everything short of a free ad – a panel of women not containing their excitement to welcome Kamala Harris, ready to introduce her to their committed daytime audience of exactly the type of women the vice president’s campaign always hoped were going to be critical to her base. It was a moment that encapsulated one of the biggest challenges facing her campaign – which, in the end, proved insurmountable. https://www.cnn.com/2024/11/06/politics/harris-campaign-went-wrong/index.html Wholly negative campaign against her opponent, nothing to offer the public on the economy, and nothing to stop mass illegal migration. Game over. 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrimsonKing Posted November 6 #9 Share Posted November 6 1 minute ago, Razman said: They could have done a lot more, indeed they could have brought someone in a long time ago to replace Biden , they could have done something about the border a lot longer ago , instead of waiting around til the last minute. Which would have limited the ammunition the Republicans had to talk against them. They knew this time would come a long time ago , yet they lolly gagged around. Again,I told everyone back in 2020-2021 it wasn't just a "well known stutter" that was wrong with Biden...and I'm no "specialist". 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alchopwn Posted November 6 #10 Share Posted November 6 Harris hasn't conceded defeat yet, and as far as I am aware, the postal votes haven't been counted yet. This is a Red Mirage. Trump called his victory too early. 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkHunter Posted November 6 #11 Share Posted November 6 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Alchopwn said: Harris hasn't conceded defeat yet, and as far as I am aware, the postal votes haven't been counted yet. This is a Red Mirage. Trump called his victory too early. Kamala is conceding around 6 PM and this isn't 2020, the overwhelming majority of the mail in vote has been counted already, only a few thousand votes mailed in on election day are still outstanding and they are no where near enough to flip any of the called states or even the uncalled states. The reality is Trump won Edited November 6 by DarkHunter 4 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrimsonKing Posted November 6 #12 Share Posted November 6 11 minutes ago, Alchopwn said: Harris hasn't conceded defeat yet, and as far as I am aware, the postal votes haven't been counted yet. This is a Red Mirage. Trump called his victory too early. Yesterday was "Back to the Future" day... November 5th. Kinda wild lol 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claira Posted November 6 Author #13 Share Posted November 6 23 minutes ago, CrimsonKing said: Newsom as I said,would have been their best bet... He and Shapiro would have been my top choices, but of the two, I agree that Newsom would have been the better choice this time around. But I'm sure we'll see them going after the top spot four years from now. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glorybebe Posted November 6 #14 Share Posted November 6 19 minutes ago, Alchopwn said: Harris hasn't conceded defeat yet, and as far as I am aware, the postal votes haven't been counted yet. This is a Red Mirage. Trump called his victory too early. Everyone could see the numbers. He won early on 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claira Posted November 6 Author #15 Share Posted November 6 28 minutes ago, Razman said: They could have done a lot more, indeed they could have brought someone in a long time ago to replace Biden , they could have done something about the border a lot longer ago , instead of waiting around til the last minute. Which would have limited the ammunition the Republicans had to talk against them. They knew this time would come a long time ago , yet they lolly gagged around. Lolly gagging around is exactly what they did, and it cost them. 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrimsonKing Posted November 6 #16 Share Posted November 6 1 minute ago, Claira said: He and Shapiro would have been my top choices, but of the two, I agree that Newsom would have been the better choice this time around. But I'm sure we'll see them going after the top spot four years from now. I actually thought Shapiro was a sure thing as VP... really silly gamble they made with Walz. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkHunter Posted November 6 #17 Share Posted November 6 1 minute ago, glorybebe said: Everyone could see the numbers. He won early on The main issue seems to be that people are unaware that procedures have changed since 2020. In Pennsylvania for example, can't speak for every battleground state since I didn't check them all, but in 2020 Pennsylvania counted the in person voting first then the mail in ballots but after all the problems that occured the procedure was changed and in 2024 the on hand mail in ballots were counted first than the in person voting. 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DayoOlabisi Posted November 6 #18 Share Posted November 6 21 minutes ago, CrimsonKing said: Newsom as I said,would have been their best bet... Newsom is scary good. So good that he has a terrible resume and scandals and yet would be formidable as a presidential candidate. 2028 will be interesting as I expect Newsom to step up and battle the likes of Buttitieg (also very skilled) as lead candidates. The rest of the field is murky as the party will have to undergo significant changes (Newsom and Pete will survive those changes, but not sure who else will). On the other side, it would seem Vance is the heir-apparent, but will Trump give the nod to Don Jr. if he's interested? Will Tulsi or RFK Jr. go for the top spot if their run in the administration goes well? Will Vivek run again? Does DeSantis find a way? If the next four years are moderately successful, I expect all of them to be positioned. If not, I think the republicans go back to the Nikki Haley types. A Newsom/Don Jr. matchup would be awkward for Kimberly Guilfoyle so that could be fun. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkHunter Posted November 6 #19 Share Posted November 6 4 minutes ago, CrimsonKing said: I actually thought Shapiro was a sure thing as VP... really silly gamble they made with Walz. I read an article where her campaign staff wanted Shapiro but Kamala broke with them and went with Walz cause she liked him more/had a good feeling about him. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claira Posted November 6 Author #20 Share Posted November 6 2 minutes ago, CrimsonKing said: I actually thought Shapiro was a sure thing as VP... really silly gamble they made with Walz. If Harris was smart, she would have chosen him, but she feared his ambition and the fact that he would outshine her. She played it safe and chose someone who was content to lay low. The problem with that, however, is that Walz came off, at least to me, as weak and not someone capable of tackling hard issues. Indeed, they both came off that way. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DayoOlabisi Posted November 6 #21 Share Posted November 6 Kamala was a historically unpopular VP even before Biden's favorability started dropping. She only got the nomination because she could keep all the Biden/Harris money and because she did some wheeling and dealing to make that happen. She's never been a good candidate for anything and she was purely a marketing product that ultimately failed. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glorybebe Posted November 6 #22 Share Posted November 6 Sore loser Kamala STILL hasn't admitted she lost as world waits for concession speech and Biden stays silent https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14049277/kamala-harris-delays-concession-speech-donald-trump-victory.html So, she didn't even thank her supporters? Just walked off the stage? 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claira Posted November 6 Author #23 Share Posted November 6 1 minute ago, glorybebe said: Sore loser Kamala STILL hasn't admitted she lost as world waits for concession speech and Biden stays silent https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14049277/kamala-harris-delays-concession-speech-donald-trump-victory.html So, she didn't even thank her supporters? Just walked off the stage? Apparently, she's scheduled to speak at 4PM EST and will call Trump to concede. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DayoOlabisi Posted November 6 #24 Share Posted November 6 1 minute ago, Claira said: If Harris was smart, she would have chosen him, but she feared his ambition and the fact that he would outshine her. She played it safe and chose someone who was content to lay low. The problem with that, however, is that Walz came off, at least to me, as weak and not someone capable of tackling hard issues. Indeed, they both came off that way. he was also completely unprepared (relatively). he wasn't familiar with national issues with any depth. it's understandable. he probably never thought he'd really be a national candidate, but certainly imagined he'd have years to gear up for a run if he ever was. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrimsonKing Posted November 6 #25 Share Posted November 6 1 minute ago, DarkHunter said: I read an article where her campaign staff wanted Shapiro but Kamala broke with them and went with Walz cause she liked him more/had a good feeling about him. A really bad call on her part,the guy actually seems to be able to tell the truth,and the whole truth at that...I've watched him speak a few times with zero lies or untruths mixed in for max effect. I believe Shapiro being Jewish hurt his chances,as Kamala didn't want to offend the campus rioting part of her base. Bit her in the ass. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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