Where Harris’ campaign went wrong

[F3SS]

[WVK]

8 minutes ago, CrimsonKing said:

He said it about 6 months back as well,I remember posting an article about it.

At one time Bernie was against open borders because of the depressing effect on working peoples wages. Then he was taken into the woodshed to get his mind right and went along with the open borders agenda. 

[+DieChecker]

17 minutes ago, Razman said:

I would wonder , did Bernie tell them months ago that he thought it was a disastrous campaign because they were abandoning the working class people , or just spit that out after the election loss?

From what I read, Bernie was ranting back last year, before the Primaries. I saw several articles when I was Googling the subject earlier today.

[+DieChecker]

3 minutes ago, WVK said:

At one time Bernie was against open borders because of the depressing effect on working peoples wages. Then he was taken into the woodshed to get his mind right and went along with the open borders agenda. 

If he was going to caucus with the liberal democrats, he had to toe the line.

[+Razman]

45 minutes ago, F3SS said:

They even got Trump himself saying he won , multiple times. The article itself at the bee is hilarious.

Edited November 8, 2024 by Razman

[F3SS]

24 minutes ago, Razman said:

They even got Trump himself saying he won , multiple times. The article itself at the bee is hilarious.

I didn't realize the BB had actual articles. I know they have parody videos as well. Thought they were just a meme factory.

[F3SS]

57 minutes ago, WVK said:

At one time Bernie was against open borders because of the depressing effect on working peoples wages. Then he was taken into the woodshed to get his mind right and went along with the open borders agenda. 

The woodshed talk was making him rich and shutting up. Bernie famously railed against the "millionaires and billionaires" until he became a millionaire. Then it was just about the billionaires.

[+Razman]

5 minutes ago, F3SS said:

I didn't realize the BB had actual articles. I know they have parody videos as well. Thought they were just a meme factory.

Yea its short thing but funny if you read through it.

4D Chess: Democrats Admit Trump Actually Won In 2020 And Is Now Unable To Serve Third Term | Babylon Bee

"Yeah, he actually won a second term in 2020. Sorry about that," said Congresswoman Nancy Pelosi. "It's a real shame he already served two terms. Unfortunately, that means he wasn't eligible to run again, which nullifies Tuesday night's election. We probably should have been more up-front about the fact that we stole the election and Biden was never president, but oh well. Hindsight is 20-20. I guess Kamala wins by default now, right?"

Other prominent Democrats seconded the admission. "That's true, Trump was already elected twice," said Pennsylvania Governor Josh Shapiro. "Trust me, I worked really hard to help steal the election and convince everyone that Biden won. So, even though Tuesday night was certainly an impressive showing by the American people, we're just bound by law to block Trump from serving what is, in actuality, a prohibited third term. Sorry, everyone. But, hey, congrats to Trump on that win in 2020."

[+and-then]

It won't surprise me if the Left does admit stealing it in a decade or so.  

[Sir Wearer of Hats]

2 minutes ago, and-then said:

It won't surprise me if the Left does admit stealing it in a decade or so.  

Nah, it’ll be in a few weeks when they explain how Trump stole this election and someone slips out “that’s how we did it in 2020 anyway”. But then … we’d need footage from the Legion of Doom headquarters ….

[+and-then]

Just now, Sir Wearer of Hats said:

Nah, it’ll be in a few weeks when they explain how Trump stole this election and someone slips out “that’s how we did it in 2020 anyway”. But then … we’d need footage from the Legion of Doom headquarters ….

These people have little to no built in filters on their behavior due to having a media that is a backstop, bolstering nearly every lie they tell.  Add to that their utter hubris and lack of self awareness, and nothing they do would really surprise me.  This election will not serve to cause them to reflect on their bad choices.  They are corporately unable to admit wrongdoing.  

[Sir Wearer of Hats]

4 minutes ago, and-then said:

These people have little to no built in filters on their behavior due to having a media that is a backstop, bolstering nearly every lie they tell.  Add to that their utter hubris and lack of self awareness, and nothing they do would really surprise me.  This election will not serve to cause them to reflect on their bad choices.  They are corporately unable to admit wrongdoing.  

 

[F3SS]

41 minutes ago, Razman said:

"Sorry about that"

Hilarious.

[+and-then]

24 minutes ago, Sir Wearer of Hats said:

 

Yep, should have been more specific.  Democrat Party leaders...

[CrimsonKing]

https://nypost.com/2024/11/08/us-news/bitter-pelosi-now-says-biden-should-have-dropped-out-earlier-so-democrats-could-have-open-primary/

This is getting a bit sorry how people are throwing Joe under the bus...

That old drunken lush was one of the main people pushing him toward a second term!

Some of these people should be jailed for lieing and elder abuse.

She also laughed at people for saying there should have been an open primary after hand picking Kamala!

Unbelievable if it wasn't coming out of Washington...they don't even try nor do they have to try hiding their BS from their followers anymore.

[F3SS]

37 minutes ago, CrimsonKing said:

https://nypost.com/2024/11/08/us-news/bitter-pelosi-now-says-biden-should-have-dropped-out-earlier-so-democrats-could-have-open-primary/

This is getting a bit sorry how people are throwing Joe under the bus...

That old drunken lush was one of the main people pushing him toward a second term!

Some of these people should be jailed for lieing and elder abuse.

She also laughed at people for saying there should have been an open primary after hand picking Kamala!

Unbelievable if it wasn't coming out of Washington...they don't even try nor do they have to try hiding their BS from their followers anymore.

The should give her all opposite information as a policy and we'll see her fortune tumble while she places the wrong market bets.

[psyche101]

It's actually pretty bloody obvious where the Harris campaign went wrong.

They lost.

Not how it works. 

[psyche101]

21 hours ago, F3SS said:

Yes, I do comprehend that and he is right. You don't like that. You want somebody in charge of that and I've laid a case against that. 

No you don't. 

No wonder you are Maga. Talk about comprehension problems. 

He and I never discussed validity of information. It doesn't have to be fact checked or anything. The poster literally said lies and misinformation are free speech 

He did not say lies and misinformation can be reinterpreted as truth by another source, he said "lies and misinformation are free speech"

Nothing whatsoever to do with proving lies or misinformation as truth. Nothing. They themselves are free speech.

You support lies and misinformation based on conspiracy theories. That's not the case here  The poster said one can tell a known lie, one can spread known misinformation, it is free speech to do so and as such protected. 

How is that so difficult to understand?

[psyche101]

22 hours ago, DieChecker said:

10% savings is actually enough that a US corporation will send production overseas. 

You're right it would increase prices, but I think the idea is to "on-shore" more industries that have been dying out... Pennsylvania used to have steel mills, but all the production was sent elsewhere. If foreign steel gets expensive enough those $30, $40, $50, an hour jobs could return. I think that's what people think is going to happen. But I'm skeptical that it actually would happen... Without government money thrown in on top.

That's spot on. It's what made America so prosperous to begin with. You could mine your own nation for your own resources and use your own people when transport was slow and expensive, labour was cheap and construction was booming. 

To recreate that in the modern world is another thing altogether. Obstacles overcome, labour rates wildly different. It could build America, but in four years is highly doubtful and it can only come at record inflation trade wars and a very tough time before good times even begin. 

[psyche101]

11 hours ago, DieChecker said:

Hey, to those who wanted to remove the Electoral College. Some states started a thing called the National Popular Vote Interstate Compact.

Someone thought this was a good idea, because Republicans were never going to ever, ever win the Popular Vote ever again.

If this was enforced Trump wins almost all the Blue states...

Oh, just so funny to me.

 

Kamala got 71 million votes and Trump 75. How can the map be at all accurate considering that? 

[Doc Socks Junior]

33 minutes ago, psyche101 said:

 

Kamala got 71 million votes and Trump 75. How can the map be at all accurate considering that? 

Because the map shows what would happen if states who signed a compact to award electoral votes to the winner of the popular vote did so.

So, for instance, California went to Harris, but if that compact was in force, they would instead award their delegates to the winner of the popular vote. In this case, that was Trump.

[CrimsonKing]

https://nypost.com/2024/11/08/us-news/kamala-harris-campaigns-election-eve-concerts-said-to-cost-up-to-20m-as-rank-and-file-staff-vendors-fear-they-wont-be-paid/

God damn grifters  

[Alchopwn]

On 11/8/2024 at 1:07 PM, Hammerclaw said:

And that bothers you? Then you ain't from Chicago.

No, I'm actually from MASS.  I just put Chicago on my profile because "Alchopwn" is an amusing user name.  All the same, I can't see why anyone would elect a convicted criminal, even if he hasn't been sentenced.  It is really hard for any conservative to justify that, let alone a guy who was very close friends with Jeffrey Epstein, and someone who lost civil trials regarding paying off a prostitute, and sexually assaulting several women.  Trump bragged about his crimes, and was convicted of them, and a bunch of idiots thought that life Pre-COVID was better than life post-COVID, and decided they wanted him back, when he was the reason COVID was many times worse than it needed to be, and killed over a million Americans.  The USA is a nation of mental defectives, it seems.

Edited November 9, 2024 by Alchopwn

[+DieChecker]

16 hours ago, psyche101 said:

 

Kamala got 71 million votes and Trump 75. How can the map be at all accurate considering that? 

Because this compact doesn't get rid of the Electoral College. It only assigns the EC votes for compact states to someone who has won the Popular Vote. This could potentially mean someone like Trump 2016, who lost the popular vote to lose the election, regardless of if they got 270 EC votes, already.

However, the Compact has no real power unless 270 EC votes worth of states sign on. The Compact is at 209 right now, with another 50 in process. One more state needed. Which is why it didn't result in Trump getting West Coast/New England giving those EC votes to Trump.

IMHO, I think this may actually fall apart, since it could result in a big Republican win in the future.

[Sir Wearer of Hats]

From an informed “undecided” voter’s perspective I’d say the fact she repeated the same talking points at each rally, she offered very little in the way of policy and tried to pitch herself as “the candidate of change” while being a senior member of the incumbent government.