Where Harris’ campaign went wrong

[Slugnutty]

I’d always thought USA had a bit of a racist hangover, and when Obama got crowned it was a real leap forward. 
To say USA is not ready for a female president is to say it’s misogynistic- which stacks up based on the language used against Kamala (and Hilary). 
whilst Harris may have been a weak candidate, surely she was still a better and more progressive proposition than the embarrassment that is trump. 
What a shame for women. 

[CrimsonKing]

2 minutes ago, Slugnutty said:

I’d always thought USA had a bit of a racist hangover, and when Obama got crowned it was a real leap forward. 
To say USA is not ready for a female president is to say it’s misogynistic- which stacks up based on the language used against Kamala (and Hilary). 
whilst Harris may have been a weak candidate, surely she was still a better and more progressive proposition than the embarrassment that is trump. 
What a shame for women. 

What "language used" against her and Hillary could you describe as having never been used against white male candidates?

[Zebra3]

When they stop running on gender and race they'll have a chance at anything. People are sick of Dems claiming to be victims of anything and everything if something doesn't go their way.

[+susieice]

I've wondered too if her being female may have something to do with it. 

I really don't think she'll run for a national office again. Maybe state. I could be wrong.

Edited November 6, 2024 by susieice

[+DieChecker]

3 hours ago, and-then said:

The party itself is more to blame than Harris. 

I'd agree. Harris isn't a horrible person. She simply isn't a really good candidate. I think if Biden had not run for a 2nd term, like he had promised 3 years earlier, the party could have run primaries with better prepared candidates. Harris could have been one of them. And with a year, rather than just 3 months, she might have had better voter persuasion , and participation.

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, it was a kind of hate-driven hysteria.  

It did seem so. I think the liberal media decided on Fear as their tool, and just kept pushing that agenda. 

[Zebra3]

 

[F3SS]

2 minutes ago, Zebra3 said:

When they stop running on gender and race they'll have a chance at anything. People are sick of Dems claiming to be victims of anything and everything if something doesn't go their way.

Like I said, authenticity is key. Pandering and fakery only works on the feable minded.

[+DieChecker]

I'd say being a woman might have contributed, but I think it would have been down the list of things stacked against her.

She is directly connected to Biden, whom 75% of people think took us in a wrong direction. And whom is blamed for that period where inflation was 10%.

Plus the Border Czar thing. That would hamstring anyone.

Plus word salad.

[CrimsonKing]

2 minutes ago, susieice said:

I've wondered too if her being female may have something to do with it. 

Seeing as how women are the slight majority,and more likely to vote as we all had driven into our skulls this election cycle...

I just don't think that's it...just my opinion of course.

[WVK]

13 minutes ago, DieChecker said:

She could run for Senate, or House. She's ONLY 60. Prime politician age.

She could even be Speaker. 

She could run for President, she would only be 64!  That said i think she is headed for the dust bin of history.

[Claira]

9 minutes ago, CrimsonKing said:

What "language used" against her and Hillary could you describe as having never been used against white male candidates?

The B word.

[+susieice]

Here she goes!

[Claira]

11 minutes ago, DieChecker said:

I'd agree. Harris isn't a horrible person. She simply isn't a really good candidate. I think if Biden had not run for a 2nd term, like he had promised 3 years earlier, the party could have run primaries with better prepared candidates. Harris could have been one of them. And with a year, rather than just 3 months, she might have had better voter persuasion , and participation.

I could not agree more on all points.  If anyone needs to take responsibility, it's Biden.

[CrimsonKing]

6 minutes ago, Claira said:

The B word.

Well I've personally referred to Trump as a loony b*****d on multiple occasions...

Plus multiple other insults about other presidents lol

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I've read women on her own staff have referred to her as such... that's very telling.

Edited November 6, 2024 by CrimsonKing

[Claira]

2 minutes ago, CrimsonKing said:

Well I've personally referred to Trump as a loony b*****d on multiple occasions...

Plus multiple other insults about other presidents lol

My language gets quite colourful as well when it comes to politicians. I am loyal to none lol.

[Zebra3]

8 minutes ago, WVK said:

She could run for President, she would only be 64!  That said i think she is headed for the dust bin of history.

She's headed to OnlyFans.

[Sir Wearer of Hats]

Harris is saying “fight” a lot during her concession speech, I hope no one does anything stupid because that’s insurrection talk. 

[WVK]

1 minute ago, Zebra3 said:

She's headed to OnlyFans.

Or teach geopolitics to 3rd graders:

“Ukraine is a country in Europe. It exists next to another country called Russia. Russia is a bigger country. Russia is a powerful country. Russia decided to invade a smaller country called Ukraine. So, basically, that's wrong, and it goes against everything that we stand for.”

[+susieice]

3 minutes ago, Sir Wearer of Hats said:

Harris is saying “fight” a lot during her concession speech, I hope no one does anything stupid because that’s insurrection talk. 

Really?

[Slugnutty]

24 minutes ago, CrimsonKing said:

What "language used" against her and Hillary could you describe as having never been used against white male candidates?

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/article/2024/aug/29/donald-trump-kamala-harris-sexist-post

or

https://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/amp/rcna169141

or the whole cat lady thing.  There is a lot and it’s all very well documented. 
 

[Slugnutty]

If UK candidates used such language I’m sure they’d have to apologise and/or withdraw. 
US is a bit behind the curve on this front. IMO. but that’s just woke. 🙄

[CrimsonKing]

3 minutes ago, Slugnutty said:

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/article/2024/aug/29/donald-trump-kamala-harris-sexist-post

or

https://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/amp/rcna169141

or the whole cat lady thing.  There is a lot and it’s all very well documented. 
 

There's been a whole lot of bad things said about presidents throughout history...

Even Kamala's own staffers have had negative and insulting things to say about her...and it's all well documented 

[CrimsonKing]

10 minutes ago, Slugnutty said:

If UK candidates used such language I’m sure they’d have to apologise and/or withdraw. 
US is a bit behind the curve on this front. IMO. but that’s just woke. 🙄

I guarantee it gets said,just maybe behind closed doors...

People are people,no matter where you go.

I enjoy watching some of the Asian countries political gatherings,some of those turn into all out brawls 😆

[Sir Wearer of Hats]

22 minutes ago, susieice said:

Really?

Well, if we accept the “innocence” of Trump on Jan 6th due to people “misunderstanding” his rhetoric then Harris’ similar rhetoric risks also being misunderstood. 

[Slugnutty]

8 minutes ago, CrimsonKing said:

There's been a whole lot of bad things said about presidents throughout history...

Even Kamala's own staffers have had negative and insulting things to say about her...and it's all well documented 

to be clear this is something said/position taken by the now president elect. Hardly a role model, though this no longer seems to be the moral standard expected of a president. I doubt most voters would even know this as it is something that wouldn’t get any attention on the right side of msm, but is one of the many reasons why the left and most of the rest of the world outside red America thinks trump is a poor choice to represent a nation. 

Trump drew online opprobrium by sharing a vulgar post on his social media site implying that the Democratic nominee owed her political rise to sexual favours. The post – originally posted by another user – featured photos of Harris and Hillary Clinton alongside the comment: “Funny how *******s impacted both their careers differently…”