Where Harris’ campaign went wrong

[Slugnutty]

5 minutes ago, CrimsonKing said:

I guarantee it gets said,just maybe behind closed doors...

People are people,no matter where you go.

I enjoy watching some of the Asian countries political gatherings,some of those turn into all out brawls 😆

And racists are racists and misogynists are misogynists. And we just witnessed one be elected to the highest position there is. 👌

[CrimsonKing]

1 minute ago, Slugnutty said:

to be clear this is something said/position taken by the now president elect. Hardly a role model, though this no longer seems to be the moral standard expected of a president. I doubt most voters would even know this as it is something that wouldn’t get any attention on the right side of msm, but is one of the many reasons why the left and most of the rest of the world outside red America thinks trump is a poor choice to represent a nation. 

Trump drew online opprobrium by sharing a vulgar post on his social media site implying that the Democratic nominee owed her political rise to sexual favours. The post – originally posted by another user – featured photos of Harris and Hillary Clinton alongside the comment: “Funny how *******s impacted both their careers differently…”

I'm in no way defending anything Trump has ever said or done...

Just saying women are a slight majority and more likely to vote in my country,and Kamala still lost by a wide margin.

Something tells me a lot of women in this country look at an insult to a woman,as equal to an insult to a man...

Not that many people really cared.

As I've stated previously,her very own staffers have previously called her less than nice names.

Same thing if a guy gets insulted,we call it "equality".

Is what it is.

[CrimsonKing]

5 minutes ago, Slugnutty said:

And racists are racists and misogynists are misogynists. And we just witnessed one be elected to the highest position there is. 👌

By a lot of minorities and women...

Fascinating how that works.

[+OverSword]

6 minutes ago, Slugnutty said:

And racists are racists and misogynists are misogynists. And we just witnessed one be elected to the highest position there is. 👌

I wonder what percentage of US presidents have been racists and misogynists? Probably all of them to some extent.

[Slugnutty]

1 minute ago, CrimsonKing said:

By a lot of minorities and women...

Fascinating how that works.

I appreciate your balanced reply. It’s not just white men who can be racists and misogynists. We saw that with the black male voters reluctant to vote for a woman , and women accepting a submission to the patriarchy. 
I’m merely saying I think USA hasn’t fully awoken yet - and trump is a step in the opposite direction. 
I’m also saying tho that your personal views and the Harris staffers aren’t and should not be held to the same standard as someone aspiring to lead a nation. 

[Slugnutty]

5 minutes ago, OverSword said:

I wonder what percentage of US presidents have been racists and misogynists? Probably all of them to some extent.

Literally my point. 

[CrimsonKing]

10 minutes ago, OverSword said:

I wonder what percentage of US presidents have been racists and misogynists? Probably all of them to some extent.

Are "misogynistic" remarks only a big deal if made by a male?

I remember recently reading a post on here of African American "entertainer" Lizzo I believe it was referring to Kamala as a "bad b****" and Trump supporters as "hoes".

Eta

Lizzo is female.

Edited November 6, 2024 by CrimsonKing

[+DieChecker]

And as with most political commentary here on UM, the Left refuses to address its issues and instead goes to Whataboutisms holding up Trump in front of the self reflection mirror they should be looking into.

Well, Trump's a racist Nazi... Yes, yes, yes... We all know. No one on the Conservative side cares. Move on to fixing your own issues.

[+DieChecker]

19 minutes ago, OverSword said:

I wonder what percentage of US presidents have been racists and misogynists? Probably all of them to some extent.

Well, literally under most DEI programs ALL White people are racist, and ALL men are misogynistic. 

 

[CrimsonKing]

12 minutes ago, Slugnutty said:

I’m also saying tho that your personal views and the Harris staffers aren’t and should not be held to the same standard as someone aspiring to lead a nation. 

On this we agree,but in all honesty, it's most likely always been that way...just behind closed doors.

I can't put women who want to be in power on a perch above men of the same standing.

Hillary ran for president and has held powerful positions,yet her self proclaimed "mentor" Robert Byrd was a former kkk grand wizard.

I find most politicians to be scum,some just hide it better than others.

[CrimsonKing]

2 minutes ago, DieChecker said:

Well, literally under most DEI programs ALL White people are racist, and ALL men are misogynistic. 

 

Maybe you can help out on the mental gymnastics problem of Lizzo? 😆

[Slugnutty]

12 minutes ago, CrimsonKing said:

Are "misogynistic" remarks only a big deal if made by a male?

I remember recently reading a post on here of African American "entertainer" Lizzo I believe it was referring to Kamala as a "bad b****" and Trump supporters as "hoes".

Eta

Lizzo is female.

Kinda.
My beef is more the behaviour of the president. They should lead by example. 
if Harris referred to trump in equivalent terms this would be misandrist and would be equally inappropriate - but she didn’t. 
I don’t quite understand the whole rap/black culture - seems to live by different rules. But ultimately probably encourages and enforces gender and ethnic stereotypes. 

[+OverSword]

12 minutes ago, DieChecker said:

Well, literally under most DEI programs ALL White people are racist, and ALL men are misogynistic. 

 

Dumb broads would think that. 

[Slugnutty]

11 minutes ago, DieChecker said:

And as with most political commentary here on UM, the Left refuses to address its issues and instead goes to Whataboutisms holding up Trump in front of the self reflection mirror they should be looking into.

Well, Trump's a racist Nazi... Yes, yes, yes... We all know. No one on the Conservative side cares. Move on to fixing your own issues.

I’m pretty sure Harris hasn’t referred to trump as a nazi (happy to be proven wrong on this tho) - fascist yes, but this isn’t the point. This is to comment on his political leaning and to describe someone as fascist - whilst unpleasant - criticises their choice. 
to bring gender and race into it is what is wrong, and is made permissible by it being used by the president. This is the problem, and by not recognising the distinction further evidences my point. 

[Slugnutty]

12 minutes ago, CrimsonKing said:, it's most likely always been that way...just behind closed doors.

most likely always been that way...just behind closed doors.

 

But not for trump. Full barefaced in plain sight - and it’s accepted. 

[+DieChecker]

1 minute ago, Slugnutty said:

I’m pretty sure Harris hasn’t referred to trump as a nazi (happy to be proven wrong on this tho) - fascist yes, but this isn’t the point. This is to comment on his political leaning and to describe someone as fascist - whilst unpleasant - criticises their choice. 
to bring gender and race into it is what is wrong, and is made permissible by it being used by the president. This is the problem, and by not recognising the distinction further evidences my point. 

That's all fine, but still is pointing at Trump, and not working on how Democrats could have done things better.

Trump is an SOB, we know that. We're not able to do anything about that. Ds can do better, so that why we're trying to analyze where Harris wasn't good enough.

[Slugnutty]

1 minute ago, DieChecker said:

That's all fine, but still is pointing at Trump, and not working on how Democrats could have done things better.

Trump is an SOB, we know that. We're not able to do anything about that. Ds can do better, so that why we're trying to analyze where Harris wasn't good enough.

She could have worn a strap on?

[CrimsonKing]

1 minute ago, Slugnutty said:

But not for trump. Full barefaced in plain sight - and it’s accepted. 

Yep,and it seems to be spreading...

Joe recently said he wanted to drown him...

Politics in America is getting dirty lol

[qxcontinuum]

But what was trully to support there? She was in power having legislature to roll whatever changes she wanted but it sank in incompetence.

So called "far right" voters which are actually common sense people and still a majority everywhere, are regaining back the western world and would throw liberals in the trash can together with their Chinese and Arab endorsement. 

I am happy for America, I hope Canada is following suite and escapes dictatorship, ASAP.

Edited November 6, 2024 by qxcontinuum

[CrimsonKing]

7 minutes ago, OverSword said:

Dumb broads would think that. 

Trouble maker 😆

[+Link of Hyrule]

Those thinking Harris lost because America is too racist/misogynist have learned the wrong lesson from this defeat. 

[Slugnutty]

18 minutes ago, Link of Hyrule said:

Those thinking Harris lost because America is too racist/misogynist have learned the wrong lesson from this defeat. 

I think it’s a fairly big factor, but would like to know what you think is the right lesson?

[psyche101]

6 hours ago, Claira said:

Part of his appeal to Harris was the fact that he expressed no interest in running for the top spot. His lack of ambition in that direction was a key factor in her decision. And yes, he was unprepared. The issues were simple: the economy, immigration and abortion. Harris tackled abortion well, but got an F on the other two — which to many of Americans were the most critical.

I honestly wondered at the time why he was chosen. A lot seemed the think Shapiro would be better, and to be honest, I think they were right. Having the Governor of PA as VP might have swung the state. It was so close every advantage was needed. 

In any case America has chosen now and things are what they are fit the next four years. Not much to do but wait it out as best possible through the price increases about to hit and a war becomes more of a worry. 

[psyche101]

3 hours ago, CrimsonKing said:

Has it been announced what accent she'll be using to deliver it?...

Sorry, couldn't help myself 😆 

Still can't believe she took the Hillary playbook,and continued to run a mean pick six with it!...I'll shut up now lol

Her win map could be overlaid on Hillary's. Same targets hit, just even worse numbers than Hillary. 

[+OverSword]

6 minutes ago, psyche101 said:

I honestly wondered at the time why he was chosen. A lot seemed the think Shapiro would be better, and to be honest, I think they were right. Having the Governor of PA as VP might have swung the state. It was so close every advantage was needed. 

In any case America has chosen now and things are what they are fit the next four years. Not much to do but wait it out as best possible through the price increases about to hit and a war becomes more of a worry. 

He's Jewish.  What would the Hamas supporters think?  My Opinion.