Does prayer increase paranormal activity?

[Gloria and Gus]

Hey y'all - I'm a Christian since birth. Never entertained any other kind of spiritual path. Until now I haven't sought education in the paranormal side of life. But I have no choice, here.

Long stories short, I've had an increase in activity since my first pregnancy in the mid-90s. A touch on my back saved me from backing into a hot iron (I think it was my grandmother). And through the years there have been many other experiences. Lately, they've become increasingly inconvenient, e.g., turning off electrics in my car, felling a very expensive tripod/camera rig onto the floor - ruining the lens, plucking a three-suction-cup bird feeder off our outside window, throwing things in the house - all things right before my very eyes.

The other day I had a 48" x 60" in canvas - WITH wooden ledge - that I was working on, come crashing down onto my bare foot. Big, black bone bruise. Visit to the doctor. Debilitating injury. It still hurts.  

I don't like this. I pray a lot. I'm a painter and in my studio and I pray all day long when I'm painting, mostly for help with my hands, and for guidance as an artist.

Lately, I've been painting like a fiend. And my skills are improving beyond anything I ever dreamed. Surprising to me, even. And I believe this is because of prayer. 

But along with improving, the paranormal activity is increasing, dramatically. I think whatever this thing is doesn't like me praying. First I thought it was my grandmother, but she wouldn't do these things to me.

Does anyone have any experience with this? Passion+prayer=trouble??

[Ell]

Stop praying.

[Gloria and Gus]

OK! I'll make sure I do that! Thanks so much! There's one like you in every bunch. Lol. 

Edited November 9 by Gloria and Gus

[Sir Wearer of Hats]

IF daemons exists, and IF they can possesses places as well as people then genuine prayer is anathema to them. 
So yes, prayer would increase poltergeist-y phenomena, because it pizzes the pestering presences off. 

[+joc]

1 hour ago, Gloria and Gus said:

Hey y'all - I'm a Christian since birth. Never entertained any other kind of spiritual path. Until now I haven't sought education in the paranormal side of life. But I have no choice, here.

Long stories short, I've had an increase in activity since my first pregnancy in the mid-90s. A touch on my back saved me from backing into a hot iron (I think it was my grandmother). And through the years there have been many other experiences. Lately, they've become increasingly inconvenient, e.g., turning off electrics in my car, felling a very expensive tripod/camera rig onto the floor - ruining the lens, plucking a three-suction-cup bird feeder off our outside window, throwing things in the house - all things right before my very eyes.

The other day I had a 48" x 60" in canvas - WITH wooden ledge - that I was working on, come crashing down onto my bare foot. Big, black bone bruise. Visit to the doctor. Debilitating injury. It still hurts.  

I don't like this. I pray a lot. I'm a painter and in my studio and I pray all day long when I'm painting, mostly for help with my hands, and for guidance as an artist.

Lately, I've been painting like a fiend. And my skills are improving beyond anything I ever dreamed. Surprising to me, even. And I believe this is because of prayer. 

But along with improving, the paranormal activity is increasing, dramatically. I think whatever this thing is doesn't like me praying. First I thought it was my grandmother, but she wouldn't do these things to me.

Does anyone have any experience with this? Passion+prayer=trouble??

Prayer is a result of superstition.  Superstition is a result of fear.  Fear is a result of belief.  Belief is a willful act of pretending to know something that isn't known.  

You pray all day.   You have a tremendous amount of fear in your psyche.  What are you afraid of?  

 

[diddyman68]

Welcome to um gloria.

If praying helps you concentrate whilst painting and if you think it helps to improve your artwork ,keep it up.

As for the other events that are happening,i can't be much help there .

I'm sure there's someone who will give you some advice here to help ease your anxiety.

 

[Sir Wearer of Hats]

18 minutes ago, joc said:

.  What are you afraid of?  

 

Same as everyone else ….. ducks.

[diddyman68]

5 minutes ago, Sir Wearer of Hats said:

Same as everyone else ….. ducks.

Oh,you had to mention the d word...

I'm gonna have nightmares now.

[Saru]

@Gloria and Gus Welcome to the forum

[eight bits]

2 hours ago, Gloria and Gus said:

Hey y'all - I'm a Christian since birth. Never entertained any other kind of spiritual path. Until now I haven't sought education in the paranormal side of life. But I have no choice, here.

Welcome aboard.

What kind of Christian?

2 hours ago, Gloria and Gus said:

Long stories short, I've had an increase in activity since my first pregnancy in the mid-90s. A touch on my back saved me from backing into a hot iron (I think it was my grandmother).

We've had different people from different paths post that what seemed to them as an external physical contact (sometimes very muscular) prevented them from harm. So far, nobody who has posted about their experience has agreed with my assessment, that part of you knew about the danger and expressed itself as a sensation (or a push or even a body-toppling tackle). It's always somebody else, maybe a person, maybe a spirit being from their path, or sometimes a full-bodied hallucination of another person who appears from parts unknown and goes away when their help has finished.

You don't have to be the first to agree with me .

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And through the years there have been many other experiences. Lately, they've become increasingly inconvenient, e.g., turning off electrics in my car, felling a very expensive tripod/camera rig onto the floor - ruining the lens, plucking a three-suction-cup bird feeder off our outside window, throwing things in the house - all things right before my very eyes.

Why do you think that any of those aren't simply gravity doing its thing or a gremlin (not the folklore species, but the name given to the impersonal cussedness of electrical systems in vehicles since at least as far back as WW II)?

Edited November 9 by eight bits

[XenoFish]

The belief in the paranormal can lead to heavy confirmation bias. People get haunted by the idea of spooks, spectres, and things that go bump in the night. Basically the brain will Lego a haunting together.

Edited November 9 by XenoFish

[XenoFish]

2 hours ago, Gloria and Gus said:

pray all day long when I'm painting, mostly for help with my hands, and for guidance as an artist.

Lately, I've been painting like a fiend. And my skills are improving beyond anything I ever dreamed. Surprising to me, even. And I believe this is because of prayer. 

Seems that prayer acts as a focal tool.

2 hours ago, Gloria and Gus said:

But along with improving, the paranormal activity is increasing, dramatically. I think whatever this thing is doesn't like me praying. First I thought it was my grandmother, but she wouldn't do these things to me.

Does anyone have any experience with this? Passion+prayer=trouble??

See my first post in this thread.

Welcome to the forum.

[diddyman68]

As i meant to say but didn't,praying is fine if you feel it helps your art.but doing anything to excess can't be good.

As @joc said if you pray constantly are you praying to protect yourself from something ?

And as @eight bits said accidents happen,

I'm not religious but i can see if you were brought up to believe every unexplained event was an act of god or evil ,then that's the go to theory.

But because something strange happens that we can't explain doesn't make it paranormal.

 

[Bed of chaos]

I'm not religious but perhaps you can contact a priest to bless ur house. My (christian) parents did this. Might make you feel better. 

[openozy]

14 hours ago, Gloria and Gus said:

Hey y'all - I'm a Christian since birth. Never entertained any other kind of spiritual path. Until now I haven't sought education in the paranormal side of life. But I have no choice, here.

Long stories short, I've had an increase in activity since my first pregnancy in the mid-90s. A touch on my back saved me from backing into a hot iron (I think it was my grandmother). And through the years there have been many other experiences. Lately, they've become increasingly inconvenient, e.g., turning off electrics in my car, felling a very expensive tripod/camera rig onto the floor - ruining the lens, plucking a three-suction-cup bird feeder off our outside window, throwing things in the house - all things right before my very eyes.

The other day I had a 48" x 60" in canvas - WITH wooden ledge - that I was working on, come crashing down onto my bare foot. Big, black bone bruise. Visit to the doctor. Debilitating injury. It still hurts.  

I don't like this. I pray a lot. I'm a painter and in my studio and I pray all day long when I'm painting, mostly for help with my hands, and for guidance as an artist.

Lately, I've been painting like a fiend. And my skills are improving beyond anything I ever dreamed. Surprising to me, even. And I believe this is because of prayer. 

But along with improving, the paranormal activity is increasing, dramatically. I think whatever this thing is doesn't like me praying. First I thought it was my grandmother, but she wouldn't do these things to me.

Does anyone have any experience with this? Passion+prayer=trouble??

The touch from grandma has nothing to do with what's happening now with you, it's more like poltergeist activity, negative stuff. You need to banish these entities from your life and prayer will only help if you are truly sincere. Stay in control and don't engage with these, only telling them to leave, very sternly and mean it. Some paranormal things can be beautiful, some very interesting and some very bad for your being so don't give the negative stuff a life by interacting with it. Who cares if it doesn't like you praying, it's not meant to be in our world and needs to be sent away. I'm not religious so I just tell anything bad to F off, and it does. A lot of people will say it's all in your mind, and it is, and it isn't.

[XenoFish]

Get a white scented candle (whatever smell you prefer). Each morning light this candle, say a simple and direct prayer for a blessed and cleansed home. Let this candle burn for a few minutes and blow it out. Do this once per day for 30 days and all will be fine. 

 

Edited November 10 by XenoFish

[papageorge1]

I would say continue and maybe even increasing the praying to the light side.

Why these things are happening can only be your best speculation. Just perhaps evil gets angry when losing.

[Bendy Demon]

22 hours ago, Sir Wearer of Hats said:

Same as everyone else ….. ducks.

Ducks, my FANNY. It's jello we should all be wary of. The jiggling is just creepy.

[TashaMarie]

Do you pray out loud?  If so try praying silently and see if anything changes.

[+and-then]

On 11/9/2024 at 2:35 PM, Gloria and Gus said:

OK! I'll make sure I do that! Thanks so much! There's one like you in every bunch. Lol. 

You can trust a fellow Alabama native, there's a WHOLE LOT MORE than "one" in this bunch  But they're mostly good folks   I've never had a similar problem but the one time I had to deal with something that seemed like a threatening presence in my home, prayer and annointing the entry ways with oil was the first thing I did and it stopped, immediately. 

Your story reminds me a bit of the last Stephen King book I ever read or will ever read.  It was about a guy who had his life turned upside down by a worksite accident and he moved to the west coast of Florida to a fictional place called DUMA KEY.  I think it's one of the best books he ever wrote.  It has to do with supernatural events surrounding his new "hobby" of sketching and painting.

Welcome to UM!

[+joc]

5 hours ago, and-then said:

I've never had a similar problem but the one time I had to deal with something that seemed like a threatening presence in my home, prayer and annointing the entry ways with oil was the first thing I did and it stopped, immediately. 

When I have experienced something in my home that felt like a threatening presence, the first thing I did was open the safe in my closet and take out my 357 and then search room by room to remove the presence.  It always worked and when I was satisfied the presence actually wasn't...I returned my 357 to the safe in my closet and went back to bed.

[openozy]

10 hours ago, and-then said:

something that seemed like a threatening presence in my home, prayer and annointing the entry ways with oil was the first thing I did and it stopped, immediately. 

 

 

4 hours ago, joc said:

When I have experienced something in my home that felt like a threatening presence, the first thing I did was open the safe in my closet and take out my 357 and then search room by room to remove the presence.  It always worked and when I was satisfied the presence actually wasn't...I returned my 357 to the safe in my closet and went back to bed.

That's it, you both made the negative presence unwelcome but I do have a soft spot for joc's Texas remedy 👍

[Rlyeh]

You'd think Churches then would have more paranormal activity than sexual abuse.

[pellinore]

On 11/9/2024 at 9:38 PM, joc said:

Prayer is a result of superstition. 

Prayer is the result of education in religious belief. Regardless, OP is experiencing what is commonly known as poltergeist activity. There may well be someone here can advise on such things.

[+joc]

32 minutes ago, pellinore said:

Prayer is the result of education in religious belief. Regardless, OP is experiencing what is commonly known as poltergeist activity. There may well be someone here can advise on such things.

No, prayer is the result of fear.  What is commonly known as poltergeist activity is only experienced by those with fear.  Fear is the great mind killer.  Belief is a tool of fear.  Believe doesn't save anyone, it enslaves them.  I already advised her and she ignored me.  She doesn't know what she is afraid of because she is too afraid to look inside.