Fast-moving stars could be piloted by intelligent aliens, study claims

[UM-Bot]

New research has identified distant, fast-moving stars that could be under intelligent extraterrestrial control.

https://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/news/382658/fast-moving-stars-could-be-piloted-by-intelligent-aliens-study-claims

[Abramelin]

"The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy".

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[fred_mc]

There might be life inside of stars as well: https://www.lehman.edu/news/2020/Intelligent-Life-in-Stars.php

[Abramelin]

1 hour ago, fred_mc said:

There might be life inside of stars as well: https://www.lehman.edu/news/2020/Intelligent-Life-in-Stars.php

Yeah, why not, eh?

[jethrofloyd]

1 hour ago, fred_mc said:

There might be life inside of stars

Yeah...Star Trek actors live there.

[Ell]

Blue whales conceivably could play polo.

[fred_mc]

On 11/22/2024 at 9:49 PM, jethrofloyd said:

Yeah...Star Trek actors live there.

Of course not our kind of life, life built up completely differently according to articles I've read about it, like plasma-based life for example, or what was suggested in the article I linked to.

Edited November 24, 2024 by fred_mc

[MissJatti]

Its like moving the furniture in your bedroom round

[Nicolette]

On 11/22/2024 at 10:46 AM, fred_mc said:

There might be life inside of stars as well: https://www.lehman.edu/news/2020/Intelligent-Life-in-Stars.php

I agree it sounds impossible if you expect all life forms to agree it sounds impossible if you expect all life forms to be identical us but have you considered that maybe it's not. Maybe it could be composed of anything within its own set of physics, and as that varies between interstellar bodies it differs. We know most life here depends on solar byproducts to thrive, so what better place for life to form than the source? 

It is a leading theory that lightning is the catalyst that created the biomolecules and formed life here. The sun may not be as hot as lightning but would be a prime location for a lot of the same activity in a soup of free particles. I noticed people here like to pretend they know everything, but we don't know that it can't string together into coherence there, only that it would not have the exact biological processes we do. I feel it's a bit narrow minded assuming we would know the limits of organized structure. Do we even know that crystals are not a form of life? 

Before you answer that, I'm positive there are personalities here that will immediately say no. But how would you define life? Having phonons and self replicating form that grows until displaced is notable for sure. People are silly for only looking for animals just like us out there. Different bodies in space harbor different physics which would require different biological processes, but the arrangement of biomolecules could happen in a lot more ways than it has here. Are we even aware enough to recognize all the forms in front of us? What are ghosts? Would we recognize forms that didn't have matching processes to ourselves? 

The first half of the time life has been on earth, there was no oxygen. It is generally formed by biological processes. Sure it can occur if you have water and sunlight, let's see what else requires that? Now fire isn't considered a life form because it has no cells. It's a chemical reaction with a life span. Don't we form through chemical reactions? A process that requires oxygen to feed itself and grow and emits carbon. If nurtured with living materials (nothing else burns) it can thrive and replicate and perish without. So is fire native to earth? It can't happen anywhere else really. But when created in space from our earth materials it forms a globe. Sound familiar?

Do we even know that the sun itself isn't alive? There sure are a lot of them out there, and they prefer to hang in pairs. Do we know that planets aren't alive or offspring of? Maybe it's just time to rethink the definition of life forms if we are going to look the correct places to discover the ones that aren't just like us. Kind of hard to believe people can theorise abiogenesis and not expect that molecules aren't arranging themselves in different ways elsewhere. 

Do we even know from what our consciousness arises? Also kind of hard to determine where it can be present if we haven't even defined what animates ourselves. Is it phonons? Seems like it is, in which case I circle around to point out that is a quality we share with crystals.

Our processes may be adapted perfectly to earth, but don't try to tell me that there aren't much more active processes on stars. Just because we would die there hardly means it is not our life source and it's surface a prime location combining everything required for building.

Edited November 25, 2024 by Nicolette

[Ell]

44 minutes ago, Nicolette said:

Do we even know from what our consciousness arises?

No.

[fred_mc]

20 hours ago, Ell said:

No.

That's right. We don't know from what consciousness arises. There are some fascinating theories though, like Penrose-Hameroff's theory that consciousness would arise from the collapse of the quantum wave function. Here's an interesting video with Roger Penrose. He is not anybody, he has won the Nobel prize, although it was for his theories about black holes.