Pure evil

[8th_wall]

I read something ages ago about this on sacred-texts.  Can't find the original document just now.  Perhaps it is better left as is.  Seems to drip with macabre,  which is something far more adeptly handled by fiction than fact (insert Wikipedia about assuming some bull****, this isn't Wikipedia,  it's deep web, was, maybe, idk.)  The fact is shocking, albeit not as shocking as what fiction can produce where the fiction gives closure in order to not be straight up scaremongering and the fact is something we, as normal, don't want to identify with.  (More assumption, where's the evidence.

/segway

The reason for this post is why post anything if the topic under discussion will cause the viewer to identify with as the subject under discussion or as a martyr.  Tutelage seems to suggest that identifying with a thing, to my mind, is similar to having an internal lotus of control, even if one doesn't recognize that what is or isn't done by way of how one reacts is completely up to oneself.

/segway

If what can be asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence then what happens when what is asserted without evidence is dismissed, without evidence, happening to be cataclysmic?  What if I read the advice differently as some other generation might construe the directive.  Which is to not bother with **** that has no evidence.  Maybe it means to choose carefully where energy is spent, time, as well as attention!  Energy, bull****, and attention!

Anyways, I'm wondering why not to believe everything one reads on the internet.  This visage? formed itself of a bunch of adult kin playing tricks on the young to laugh at their innocent and naive ways of viewing the world behind the scenes :/.  ****.  That.  "No no no we have all the HAHAHAHAHAHA presents and sweets still HAHAHAHAHA for you to enjoy.  Btw, life is ****." From this the existential crises of what can be trusted at all?  After thinking about it for some time on the down low, from whence this fell: Facebook digest, can't recall group, esoterics, maybe philosophy, I had my 2 cents at the time but, thought came back with the realization that a thief can be trusted to rob a son' of everything but shelter, food and clothing.  A liar to lie.  A murderer to kill, or, in the civilised world: I can trust that a murderer killed.  If I can't trust this because I don't know then a murderer isn't a murderer.   Where's the evidence?  Personally I don't bother wading through the scum and filth to place my energy and attention on the divine and pristine.  As the internet for one changes pending one's internet files then interacting with a bunch of **** produces a bunch of ****.  It's quite telling what we interact with most by the tone that exists, for a moment, before being burnt out of existence because there are mostly kids reading this stuff.  Adults are too busy lamenting their **** jobs to have attention and energy for this sort of stuff.  When they turn into old adults things become especially dreadfully dire but good news on the horizon!  When they become ancient and philosophical, then we can denote them with comradery with people that are deep.  Ancient folk and deep folk (a deep person is someone one might subscribe to 'an old soul.'  Fifty billion ways that can be construed not as what is stipulated).  I figured the reason old becomes straight up **** house to deal with is because dad is too busy ****ing around with peterpan, tinkerbell and being flying high, instead of chasing after what they really want, Wendy, (c.e. psychology describing boys who don't grow up and take their proper place in the world as responsible adults.  /insert 8 more walls of texts here.

So, to conclude with the following question.  If the motive doesn't exist, should it, and what to do about reflex reactions causing sway between the natural proclivity to deal with what one is dealing with in the worst construel first before the best?  (Where I'm coming from is just training that causes me to notice some things coming from giving the benefit of the doubt to somebody despite everything in existence seeming to indicate contra counter whatever.  Existence =/= reality.  Reality == Spinoza's God.  God == Elohim ~ Marduk falling from, if I'm thinking about this correctly, the psychological big bang, which has its genesis from the absurdly confounding ways people thought of reality as not reality at all but some existential assumptive enterprise situated upon, we hope, axioms, but, with falling in line with worst first, whatever is felt at the time in the moment!  Very important to know this stuff if one wishes to live the best life.  I consider myself emotionally stunted,  having shunned it over the prefrontal cortex as thinking is best, clearly, but profoundly gifted with some serious insight as far as I'm concerned alluding me to the conception of tradition; to help I think bring clarity to the end result here, is momentum.  Tradition is older more developed areas across species independent fffff-.  So there's the species.  Species does whatever.  Then there's similarities across species.  I'm going to stop myself here actually.  I'm trying to understand the flamewars against evolution.

 

[Sir Wearer of Hats]

Son … get help.

[Rlyeh]

Cool story bro 

[8th_wall]

On 11/27/2024 at 7:01 PM, Sir Wearer of Hats said:

Son … get help.

What if this is me with all the help that could be mustered at the best of time for it?  :p.  What if the original, without help, what if that exists.  I imagine you wouldn't want to know?

[Sir Wearer of Hats]

18 minutes ago, 8th_wall said:

What if this is me with all the help that could be mustered at the best of time for it?  :p.  What if the original, without help, what if that exists.  I imagine you wouldn't want to know?

I can assure you, no matter how sensible, how much sense what you wrote made/makes to you - it’s rambling senselessness to others. 
Which means one of us needs help… and it isn’t me. 

Edited November 29 by Sir Wearer of Hats

[8th_wall]

Please, please.  There's a big problem if I can make sense to children (most question heavy peoples in the world) and not to their adult people.

Here's some credentials to help with the fact that I don't have a lot of reputation on this website, even though I've been posting since I was about 12.  My first username was something like DemonOverlord.  Sounds sinister and demonic right?  I was struggling with delusions of grandeur back then.  The intended was what was stipulated but the letter reads "Seraphim." Why does God need to be protected?  Because God in hell, by definition, does not fair well against the Devil.  The Devil on Earth is a different story.  This is a story of course, the reality is different.  This is the story as the naive mind interpreted it and told it.  Why not believe everything you read on the internet?  Not because what is written is false, in actual fact the internet is where we see the purest version of ourselves contrasted with all the photo cinematographic material /rolls eyes.  No, because what is written might just be misconstrued without the former to make sense of the current, the latter being the interpretation.

Okay, so the document spelled out that the Americans were mostly tribes people that practiced Devil Worship.  Who we know to be the native Americans didn't involve themselves with this practice.  Without time evil exists forever.  With time it exists momentarily due to it necessarily being self destructive.  This is something that seemed like a lemma to me.

[8th_wall]

8 minutes ago, Sir Wearer of Hats said:

I can assure you, no matter how sensible, how much sense what you wrote made/makes to you - it’s rambling senselessness to others. 
Which means one of us needs help… and it isn’t me. 

https://www.quora.com/What-are-some-examples-of-theoretical-assumptions/answer/Anver-Dyzel?ch=10&oid=38376658&share=d2792514&srid=z0f7&target_type=answer

This I feel is my crowning work.  It made sense to 1 person, sense enough to upvote it after more than 10 000 views.  Answered precisely for the question who asked it.  Obviously someone might stipulated this is querying something about physics but it obviously isn't.  Maybe some person stumbled across some physics and then took it further to ask what are assumptions, assuming that to begin with, that are theoretical?

What are some examples of theoretical assumptions?

Well, something that I could say that's a theoretical assumption is, “if I go outside then I will be outside.” or even “If I go outside then I will be inside.” Assumptions don't need to have any “truth” about them. All assumptions are in actual fact theoretical. A lot of the time the realisation that an assumption is being made isn't something that is realised. Assumptions made of particular things tend to desire the characteristic of truth. Observations exist because of assumptions. Assumptions can be subconscious.

I think that everything of thought can be traced back to some assumption or set of assumptions.

A theoretical assumption is that an assumption is theoretical and theoretical things follow from assumptions. Another assumption is that everything we know is theoretical. Another assumption is that just because irrefutable truth can be established doesn't mean that it isn't theoretical. That is “all truth is theoretical.”

“everything false is theoretical.”

“Something that is true or false exist as a subset of truth, which in and of itself isn't theoretical.”

“Everything that exists isn't absolute.”

“Nothing is absolute.”

“Up is down.”

You can really so an enormous amount of assuming. I would say that theoretical assumptions is the birth of logic and truth, which again is actually an assumption, even if it is derived.

[8th_wall]

On 11/27/2024 at 7:57 PM, Rlyeh said:

Cool story bro 

Haahahahahah, thank-you man, good to see you well.  I appreciate you, in your style.  Done, dusted, the end, thanks.  /ventures off for the next 8 months before another bit of creativity as an idea strikes him with his full understanding that almost all ideas are wrong but WHAT IF HE COMES UP WITH ONE THAT HITS GOLD OMG WOULD NOT THAT BE EXCITING.

Seriously, I appreciate you, for being you outside of all the rep status it requires to must be able to laud around as I do :/.

DW folks, the self critique is heavier in the actual damage it does in terms of burning off the bull**** than anything yous have ever said or done or typed or anything.  I am my own worst enemy but am rather fond of myself so I let my fellow man have at it before it's me, myself with 20/20 hindsight clear vision feeling absolutely wretched at what I had done, filled with regret but refusing to cancel, unless HR deems that appropriate.

@psyonlight is my new Instagram handle btw.  Check out how people in real life treat me :)).  I used to think I was just the most hated person in the world, a white man with a job who happens to be your boss, but this turns out to be not the case.  Now I think I'm despised more than this dude.  Weirdly enough the amount of despise I experience in the real world is more than what I get online, and here.  A lot of the time when I come here to be about is when the real life has demolished me and the only place I have left is here.

I discovered this website when I was 11\12 and this account I made after another one I was either posting on or had created.

Somewhere around 2010 to 2013 the average response I receive has been wretched.  Not sure what to do to make it up to yous but I feel the president is set so shall continue to post until something changes I guess.  My own gauge is that I'm aiming up.  So in 1 year I'll be even more annoying, in 3 years about as annoying as what is expected, and in 5 years I'll be every bloke's best friend kept at arms length coz they know what happens :'ddddddd.  Finally, peace with men.  That took ages:

A common thread I noticed with the boys is they initially seriously dislike me, then they like me so much they can't stand it, then they kind of keep me at arms length, not ostracised, just, at arms length, near, not distant, but very much covert to momentary interactions now and again coz they know that I might blow **** to pieces randomly and they'd rather not be directly a part of it.  At a distance eating popcorn watching the show :''''''d.  Feeling the love to my fellow man just now :)).  Perhaps a way to decide what gender one is is to determine how one's interactions go with me.  If it's intense despise to begin with, then profound like, then perhaps some variations of that at arm's length forever more.

My baseline, and the way everything I write should be read, is jovial.  That's the word of a private consultant psychiatrist who assessed me for that sort of thing to determine to what extent I might have lied to myself, or others, and to share the information so that more information about me can be known in order to effectively treat me, whether that be through psychological interventions or psychiatric or, as it turns out, Neurological if it is shown to be the case that schizoaffective disorder has a physical cause like PTSD.

[+Hammerclaw]

If, in your stumbling around, you manage to get anywhere near a point, make it.

[+joc]

T

7 hours ago, Hammerclaw said:

If, in your stumbling around, you manage to get anywhere near a point, make it.

I'm quite sure that Stumbling Around IS the point!

[Ajay0]

Socrates is quoted as saying, "There is only one good, knowledge, and one evil, ignorance".

The Indian philosophy Aurobindo has expanded on this saying thus, " Evil is but ignorance, misapplication and ill-health."

A holistic education focussed on wisdom,knowledge and character building is obviously the remedy for evil as in ignorance then.

I would like to add here that knowledge or wisdom as in eastern philosophy translates essentially as a state of pure consciousness free from the effects of strong desires as in cravings and aversions. He or she would have a better perception of reality immune to conditioning and thus is in a position to take better decisions and actions.

A person having such a state of consciousness is considered to be wiser than a scholar having a gigantic intellect but is a slave to many strong desires instilled by conditioning.

Socrates has similarly stated of desire, " From the deepest desires often come the deadliest hate."

Edited December 2 by Ajay0

[Saru]

@8th_wall - could you condense for us into a couple of sentences specifically what the topic of discussion is for this thread ?

Thank you.

[Antigonos]

“I’m wondering why not to believe everything on the internet”

See how that works out for you. 

[Piney]

On 11/29/2024 at 5:41 PM, 8th_wall said:

Okay, so the document spelled out that the Americans were mostly tribes people that practiced Devil Worship.  Who we know to be the native Americans didn't involve themselves with this practice. 

What the Hell are you reading???? The Mathers??? 

We follow the Laws of Nature and nature doesn't have a moral code.

[+Hammerclaw]

14 hours ago, Saru said:

@8th_wall - could you condense for us into a couple of sentences specifically what the topic of discussion is for this thread ?

Thank you.

Jabberwocky. 

[XenoFish]

On 12/2/2024 at 1:01 AM, Ajay0 said:

Socrates is quoted as saying, "There is only one good, knowledge, and one evil, ignorance".

The Indian philosophy Aurobindo has expanded on this saying thus, " Evil is but ignorance, misapplication and ill-health."

A holistic education focussed on wisdom,knowledge and character building is obviously the remedy for evil as in ignorance then.

I would like to add here that knowledge or wisdom as in eastern philosophy translates essentially as a state of pure consciousness free from the effects of strong desires as in cravings and aversions. He or she would have a better perception of reality immune to conditioning and thus is in a position to take better decisions and actions.

A person having such a state of consciousness is considered to be wiser than a scholar having a gigantic intellect but is a slave to many strong desires instilled by conditioning.

Socrates has similarly stated of desire, " From the deepest desires often come the deadliest hate."

Ignorance isn't evil. Willful ignorance is. Ignorance can be remedied, but intentional stupidity can't. It's the reason why echo chambers are a breeding ground for morons. 

[Ajay0]

16 hours ago, XenoFish said:

Ignorance isn't evil. Willful ignorance is. Ignorance can be remedied, but intentional stupidity can't. It's the reason why echo chambers are a breeding ground for morons. 

If the level of external conditioning through the government, media, social and corporate systems are very high, wilful ignorance is bound to happen as the constant echoes outside can stifle inner reasoning to the contrary.

Most states wants an efficient citizen who is content to be a cog in the machinery ,not a citizen who can think for themselves and act in a manner contrary to what the state and other influential agencies dictate. The latter is bad for business and implementing short-sighted but profitable policies.

Edited Wednesday at 04:22 AM by Ajay0

[XenoFish]

4 hours ago, Ajay0 said:

If the level of external conditioning through the government, media, social and corporate systems are very high, wilful ignorance is bound to happen as the constant echoes outside can stifle inner reasoning to the contrary.

Most states wants an efficient citizen who is content to be a cog in the machinery ,not a citizen who can think for themselves and act in a manner contrary to what the state and other influential agencies dictate. The latter is bad for business and implementing short-sighted but profitable policies.

How much control do you have over the actions and thoughts of others? 

[Ajay0]

2 hours ago, XenoFish said:

How much control do you have over the actions and thoughts of others? 

Since I value everyone's independence and dignity, I do not wish to control the thoughts and actions of others as I consider it unethical to do so. 

I am okay with presenting ideas that may lead to better outcomes or course correction to a better track if possible. 

[XenoFish]

3 hours ago, Ajay0 said:

Since I value everyone's independence and dignity, I do not wish to control the thoughts and actions of others as I consider it unethical to do so. 

I am okay with presenting ideas that may lead to better outcomes or course correction to a better track if possible. 

No one can force another to following any ideology. They can compel them. It is always up to the individual to choose what they do and accept responsibility for their actions. You nor I or anyone else can make society sheep.

[Ajay0]

On 12/4/2024 at 7:18 PM, XenoFish said:

No one can force another to following any ideology. They can compel them. It is always up to the individual to choose what they do and accept responsibility for their actions. You nor I or anyone else can make society sheep.

Let me rephrase this as "No one should force another to following any ideology. You nor I or anyone else should make society sheep."

As Plato stated the intelligent always forms a minority while the masses are always guided by their herd instincts and external conditioning.

So ideally,due to an ideal education system , everyone should be capable of self-awareness and critically thinking for themselves immune to the influence of political, marketing and religious conditioning and propaganda.

But this is not the case at the moment and most human beings are manipulated by external conditioning of a political, religious,  social nature as well as business marketing with the necessary psychological tools and techniques.

I had created a thread on this regard ...

https://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/forum/topic/364476-joan-tollifson-on-the-relation-of-addiction-to-capitalism-consumerism/#comment-7540791

Conditioning instills desires in the form of likes and dislikes within oneself, leading to one-sided or even false perceptions as the conditioning agency wants one to perceive, and not the complete holistic picture. This can lead to conditioned thinking and actions which may not necessarily be correct and proper but will fulfill the conditioning agency's  agenda.

Your signature portrays this theme as well.

Edited Friday at 05:01 AM by Ajay0

[XenoFish]

11 hours ago, Ajay0 said:

Conditioning instills desires in the form of likes and dislikes within oneself, leading to one-sided or even false perceptions as the conditioning agency wants one to perceive, and not the complete holistic picture. This can lead to conditioned thinking and actions which may not necessarily be correct and proper but will fulfill the conditioning agency's  agenda.

 

Every system, every ideology, indeed every belief system is about conditioning. Anyone who proclaims to 'see the whole picture' is a liar.