Michigan substitute teacher is fired after using Ouija board in class

[UM-Bot]

The action was taken after parents expressed their concerns about their children being exposed to the practice.

https://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/news/382774/michigan-substitute-teacher-is-fired-after-using-ouija-board-in-class

[Piney]

Welcome to 21st Century U.S.A. where we have now returned to the 19th Century.....

[jethrofloyd]

@ouija ouija I didn't know you are only substitute...?

[+and-then]

43 minutes ago, Piney said:

Welcome to 21st Century U.S.A. where we have now returned to the 19th Century.....

 Education has become a bad joke, yes, but I'd hardly say we've regressed culturally, at least according to the Progressives.  They seem to think that upending the social fabric, by any means necessary, is the way "forward".  The 1800s had it share of problems but there was little to no confusion about whether one was  male or female.  This Sub obviously didn't know how to "read the room", as comedians say.  

[+and-then]

37 minutes ago, jethrofloyd said:

@ouija ouija I didn't know you are only substitute...?

She did so well they put her on Full-time 

[Bendy Demon]

Regardless of how people, especially Christians, view things like the Ouija Boards, this 'teacher' should have known better and could have simply kept it out of the classroom.

Common sense really when your job is at stake. I don't really have a whole lot of sympathy for this person.

[Cho Jinn]

So was the substitute let go because she was attempting to "use" the oujia board for some practical purpose, or because she just had it in class?  The MLive article needs some additional detail.

[Antigonos]

“Exposed to the practice”- of talking to a piece of wood with letters and numbers on it. These parents sound like real geniuses.

[Bendy Demon]

6 minutes ago, Antigonos said:

“Exposed to the practice”- of talking to a piece of wood with letters and numbers on it. These parents sound like real geniuses.

While I agree that the board is just a piece of cardboard with numbers and letters there are some religions there who see it as something evil regardless of what you or I personally view it as.

I still maintain that if a person is in the position of a teacher then they need to be very careful what sort of 'occult' practices they expose the children to and it would have been better to simply have just a picture of it.

Yes, it is silly and I am not defending anything in particular but some people have very strong views on such things and if it was me as the teacher I would not bring such a thing to class especially knowing how some people in this country view such things. I would value my job more than that and know better than to be reckless and arrogant enough to be exposing a classroom to certain aspects of spiritual beliefs.

[Guyver]

I wonder if they were actually able to get that thing working in school.

[Piney]

1 minute ago, Guyver said:

I wonder if they were actually able to get that thing working in school.

 The local downtown Newage shop started selling them about 2 years ago and another local ranted about it to me. 

😄

 

 

[Guyver]

1 minute ago, Piney said:

 The local downtown Newage shop started selling them about 2 years ago and another local ranted about it to me. 

😄

 

 

Well, I’m no good for this discussion because I side with the New Agers on this one.  I’ve seen that make believe toy work and it scared the crap out of me when I was a kid.

[glorybebe]

People can be superstitious.  They may not want their children exposed to this, same as other belief systems

[XenoFish]

Don't trust the history book? Ask directly.😆

[Piney]

18 minutes ago, Guyver said:

Well, I’m no good for this discussion because I side with the New Agers on this one.  I’ve seen that make believe toy work and it scared the crap out of me when I was a kid.

I told her I'd handle any "cleanups" and she complained to me because she knew about my "friends". 😄

1 minute ago, XenoFish said:

Don't trust the history book? Ask directly.😆

And get the wrong answer anyway because your asking The Stupid. 

[Guyver]

15 minutes ago, glorybebe said:

People can be superstitious.  They may not want their children exposed to this, same as other belief systems

Damn straight people are superstitious.  And since the little girl supposedly got demon possessed from one in the film, The Exorcist, no true blue Baptist would let their kids get within 10 feet of one of those boards.

[+ouija ouija]

Well this entire thread seems to be against me! I tried to register a smiley emoji for jethrofloyd's amusing post . . . and got a pop-up telling me there was an error! There's just the 'ghost' of a smiley(no colour), hovering there .

A 'thank you' for and-then? No chance! Yet another 'error' pop-up.

 

 

[Guyver]

3 minutes ago, XenoFish said:

Don't trust the history book? Ask directly.😆

It would be fun to ask for Mephistopheles just to see what would happen.

[Piney]

1 minute ago, Guyver said:

It would be fun to ask for Mephistopheles just to see what would happen.

You'd get some lying ethereal piece of ****. 

[Guyver]

Just now, Piney said:

You'd get some lying ethereal piece of ****. 

Yes…I think so.  When I did it with my buddy, we got some spirit who called itself Billy the Kid.

[Djehuty]

The board is just a piece of wood and only works if a person holds the planchette with their hand. If something magical were to happen on it, the planchette would have to move by itself. In my opinion, this is just superstitious nonsense for gullible people who are easily fooled. In any case, it is not useful teaching material. 

[Guyver]

4 minutes ago, Djehuty said:

The board is just a piece of wood and only works if a person holds the planchette with their hand. If something magical were to happen on it, the planchette would have to move by itself. In my opinion, this is just superstitious nonsense for gullible people who are easily fooled. In any case, it is not useful teaching material. 

It is not teaching material, correct.  And, it shouldn’t be used in school or even brought to school because of people’s religious or superstitious beliefs.  However, you can’t hold it in your hand and make it work.  The planchette must rest on the board and be gently touched with the fingertips.  I think it only works for “sensitives” and I suspect that they are a small percentage of the population.

[pellinore]

1 hour ago, Guyver said:

It is not teaching material, correct.  And, it shouldn’t be used in school or even brought to school because of people’s religious or superstitious beliefs.  However, you can’t hold it in your hand and make it work.  The planchette must rest on the board and be gently touched with the fingertips.  I think it only works for “sensitives” and I suspect that they are a small percentage of the population.

Well, it doesn't "work" at all, unless you are in a horror movie- it is nonsense. The article doesn't explain why the teacher brought it to the classroom, or what educational purpose was being served. Maybe they deserved to be sacked, maybe they didn't, but if it upset people's religious or superstitious beliefs they need to grow up- we don't live in The Cabin in the Woods however much fun it would be.

[XenoFish]

2 hours ago, Guyver said:

It would be fun to ask for Mephistopheles just to see what would happen.

You'd only get what you subconsciously know. It works through the ideomotor effect.

[Alchopwn]

 I think that it is important to introduce children to the ideomotor effect so they don't become superstitious medieval peasants and MAGA supporters:

https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20130729-what-makes-the-ouija-board-move

Edited November 29 by Alchopwn