Barnier is OUT! Will the UK do the same with Starmer?

[pellinore]

The French Government has collapsed after the Brexit-hating prime minister lost a no-confidence vote after just 90 days in power. 

Michel Barnier has become the first prime minister since 1962 to be to be forced out by such a vote. 

Emmanuel Macron has announced he will address the nation tomorrow evening as the growing political crisis continues to engulf his presidency.  

French lawmakers voted 331 out of 574 in support of the motion with the far-left and far-right coming together in an unholy alliance.

Just 288 votes were needed to see Barnier ousted. 

Speaking to French media after the result, the leader of the far-right National Rally party (RN) Marine Le Pen said that her party's support for the vote was to 'protect the French'.  

French Prime Minister Michel Barnier ousted as he LOSES no-confidence vote after plunging EU's second-biggest economy into turmoil | Daily Mail Online

Edited December 4, 2024 by pellinore

[Setton]

21 minutes ago, pellinore said:

Will the UK do the same with Starmer?

No. Barnier was ousted by MPs because he didn't have the support in parliament.

Starmer has a huge majority, and the common sense to play the long game. He's not going anywhere just now.

[stevewinn]

11 hours ago, Setton said:

No. Barnier was ousted by MPs because he didn't have the support in parliament.

Starmer has a huge majority, and the common sense to play the long game. He's not going anywhere just now.

Our old mate Barnier hey, - proving to be useless at home as he was in the EU.

I wonder if Macron will now be forced to resign, because he had a hard time selecting Barnier, the successor will be even harder to choose. 

On our very own Free Gear Kier, He's no longer in charge of events, events are overtaking him, and it will continue to be so. -  like all weak politicians, he's now engaged in perception management  trying to give the impression the govts is the master of events, i love it. the way labours going it will be a speech a week. speech after speech, abject failure to abject failure. 

 

 

 

[Alchopwn]

Hating the EU is pro-Putin.

[Setton]

1 hour ago, stevewinn said:

Our old mate Barnier hey, - proving to be useless at home as he was in the EU.

I wonder if Macron will now be forced to resign, because he had a hard time selecting Barnier, the successor will be even harder to choose. 

On our very own Free Gear Kier, He's no longer in charge of events, events are overtaking him, and it will continue to be so. -  like all weak politicians, he's now engaged in perception management  trying to give the impression the govts is the master of events, i love it. the way labours going it will be a speech a week. speech after speech, abject failure to abject failure. 

 

 

 

I've no doubt that's what's happening in your personal reality.

Doesn't have much bearing on the rest of us.

[stevewinn]

1 hour ago, Setton said:

I've no doubt that's what's happening in your personal reality.

Doesn't have much bearing on the rest of us.

Denial is the first symptom.

[Setton]

2 hours ago, stevewinn said:

Denial is the first symptom.

Yes, and which symptom are you on now? Is it 7 or 8?

[itsnotoutthere]

4 hours ago, Setton said:

I've no doubt that's what's happening in your personal reality.

Doesn't have much bearing on the rest of us.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/11/25/starmer-may-soon-go-down-as-the-most-unpopular-pm/

"After their ‘loveless landslide’ Labour have set about losing friends and alienating people at breakneck pace"

Edited December 5, 2024 by itsnotoutthere

[stevewinn]

16 minutes ago, Setton said:

Yes, and which symptom are you on now? Is it 7 or 8?

i'm not a labour supporter so, that'll be zero.

 

[stevewinn]

1 minute ago, itsnotoutthere said:

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/11/25/starmer-may-soon-go-down-as-the-most-unpopular-pm/

Free gear Kier and his band of incompetents are doing so well, gone from a 15 point lead before the election to third place all within 5 months.

what's worrying for Labour MP's Reform came second to Labour in 90 constituencies, anxiety will be setting in.

 

[Setton]

9 minutes ago, itsnotoutthere said:

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/11/25/starmer-may-soon-go-down-as-the-most-unpopular-pm/

"After their ‘loveless landslide’ Labour have set about losing friends and alienating people at breakneck pace"

Ah of course, the Torygraph would never by biased at all 😆

[Setton]

1 minute ago, stevewinn said:

Free gear Kier and his band of incompetents are doing so well, gone from a 15 point lead before the election to third place all within 5 months.

what's worrying for Labour MP's Reform came second to Labour in 90 constituencies, anxiety will be setting in.

 

Gosh and the next election is only 4 years and 7 months away!

Labour knew they'd have to be unpopular at first to fix the mess they were left. Starmer literally said so during the election and they still won in a landslide.

People will see the results by the next election and judge then on those at the time, not what will then be five year old winges.

[stevewinn]

3 minutes ago, Setton said:

Gosh and the next election is only 4 years and 7 months away!

Labour knew they'd have to be unpopular at first to fix the mess they were left. Starmer literally said so during the election and they still won in a landslide.

People will see the results by the next election and judge then on those at the time, not what will then be five year old winges.

Unpopular, were seeing what was predicted, speech after speech, "resets" "plans" codswallop, for any government, but particularly for this labour govt its becoming dangerous the Country isn't listening, Keir and his incompetents are making the Country ungovernable for themselves.

This Govt is only going in one direction.

 

[Setton]

5 minutes ago, stevewinn said:

Unpopular, were seeing what was predicted, speech after speech, "resets" "plans" codswallop, for any government, but particularly for this labour govt its becoming dangerous the Country isn't listening, Keir and his incompetents are making the Country ungovernable for themselves.

This Govt is only going in one direction.

If I have one criticism of this government, it's that they need to dumb things down more. They need to win over the low information, low intelligence Reform voters. Those voters obviously struggle with the difference between goals, milestones etc and multi-year strategies are a bit beyond them. 

Labour needs to share it's plans and measures for their core voters but should do a dumbed down version for others.

[stevewinn]

2 minutes ago, Setton said:

If I have one criticism of this government, it's that they need to dumb things down more. They need to win over the low information, low intelligence Reform voters. Those voters obviously struggle with the difference between goals, milestones etc and multi-year strategies are a bit beyond them. 

Labour needs to share it's plans and measures for their core voters but should do a dumbed down version for others.

Only one criticism. that's where your going wrong. there was at least 6 today alone.

Keir free gear's speech today, the big reset as gone down like a bowl of sick.

the country is not listening to him. he's finished.

 

 

 

[itsnotoutthere]

33 minutes ago, Setton said:

Ah of course, the Torygraph would never by biased at all 😆

Or the Guardian....right.