Sufi path of love, longing and living

[Ajay0]

Article on sufism with viewpoints of Sufi and literary publisher Affan Yesvi ...

https://www.hindustantimes.com/cities/chandigarh-news/roundabout-the-sufi-path-of-love-longing-and-living-101731778635558.html

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The subject that Yesvi elaborates upon is close to his heart and soul, and easily touches the readers’ heart as he blogs on- “The idea of living in the present moment is central to sufi teachings, The sufi saints have emphasised upon ‘being present’ as an essential attribute for achieving self knowledge and transformation. The state of ‘heartful awareness’ within illuminates the self. It enables us to open our mind and our soul to the subtle experiences that come through meditation and contemplation upon the omnipresence of the almighty. Sufi scholars have stated that it is through presence that we can connect with the divine, and the divine can live through us.”

He goes on to write that many spiritual texts across religions state that we are imprudent beings lost and wayward in a sea of delusion and self-centeredness. Sufis say that those who desire union with the almighty must purify the heart from all self-interest and grandiosity.

 

 

[XenoFish]

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He goes on to write that many spiritual texts across religions state that we are imprudent beings lost and wayward in a sea of delusion and self-centeredness. Sufis say that those who desire union with the almighty must purify the heart from all self-interest and grandiosity.

Just wanted to point out these two statements. 

[+ouija ouija]

Sufi path of love, longing and living . . .

nobody really talks about longing, do they, but it's a big thing for some of us. I am pleased to be reminded of that .

[Abramelin]

An interview with Idries Shah.

[Piney]

1 hour ago, Abramelin said:

An interview with Idries Shah.

You were chomping on the bit for years to post that link.. 😆

[Abramelin]

8 minutes ago, Piney said:

You were chomping on the bit for years to post that link.. 😆

It's actually in my profile for almost 20 years, lol.

[XenoFish]

All this spiritual nonsense on here lately.

[Abramelin]

2 hours ago, XenoFish said:

All this spiritual nonsense on here lately.

That's probably because this section of UM is titled "Spirituality, Religion and Beliefs".

😇

 

[+Hammerclaw]

7 hours ago, Abramelin said:

That's probably because this section of UM is titled "Spirituality, Religion and Beliefs".

😇

 

O-o-o-o-o ouchy!

[+Hammerclaw]

9 hours ago, XenoFish said:

All this spiritual nonsense on here lately.

Absurdities always sound more impressive when couched in quotations.

[Will Due]

 

“I am the light of the world. He who follows me shall not walk in darkness but shall have the light of life."

"I am the light of life, and every one who deliberately and with understanding rejects this saving light shall die in his sins."

 

 

[Abramelin]

16 hours ago, Will Due said:

 

“I am the light of the world. He who follows me shall not walk in darkness but shall have the light of life."

"I am the light of life, and every one who deliberately and with understanding rejects this saving light shall die in his sins."

 

 

I'll give you a call when my electrics bill runs too high.

And if you can change water into beer (no, not wine) I'll kiss your rear end as an extra.

[+DieChecker]

On 12/6/2024 at 11:53 PM, Ajay0 said:

Article on sufism with viewpoints of Sufi and literary publisher Affan Yesvi ...

https://www.hindustantimes.com/cities/chandigarh-news/roundabout-the-sufi-path-of-love-longing-and-living-101731778635558.html

 

So Sufis are just the Muslim version of Evangelical Protestants?

Wait... So Sufis spend a lot of time and energy focusing on bettering themselves as an individual, through meditation, purification, and asceticism... So they can be less selfish, self centered, and self involved???

Being self involved to be less self involved???

[jmccr8]

1 hour ago, DieChecker said:

Being self involved to be less self involved???

Hi Die

Once a person makes a habit of doing something they are not always aware that they are practicing a discipline and not a constant focus.

[+DieChecker]

7 hours ago, jmccr8 said:

Hi Die

Once a person makes a habit of doing something they are not always aware that they are practicing a discipline and not a constant focus.

Lifestyle change?

I'm not saying it's wrong to improve oneself, just commenting on the irony of being self absorbed (good kind) to prevent self absorption (bad kind).

[Golden Duck]

On 12/9/2024 at 4:26 AM, Abramelin said:

I'll give you a call when my electrics bill runs too high.

And if you can change water into beer (no, not wine) I'll kiss your rear end as an extra.

The real trick is to turn back into water if you're breathalysed and driving home.

[+Sherapy]

On 12/7/2024 at 4:15 AM, Abramelin said:

An interview with Idries Shah.

Interesting read.

[Abramelin]

On 12/9/2024 at 6:49 AM, DieChecker said:

So Sufis are just the Muslim version of Evangelical Protestants?

Sufis existed long before Islam or Christianity. Or Judaism.

What they did, is adapt their teachings to time, place and people.

[+Liquid Gardens]

On 12/9/2024 at 9:53 AM, DieChecker said:

I'm not saying it's wrong to improve oneself, just commenting on the irony of being self absorbed (good kind) to prevent self absorption (bad kind).

Sure, fair enough, but as a Christian yourself (I'm pretty sure) I'm not sure you really want to go down the path of 'look at these religious ideas, aren't they absurd'. Potentially a little hypocritical.

 

[+DieChecker]

5 hours ago, Liquid Gardens said:

Sure, fair enough, but as a Christian yourself (I'm pretty sure) I'm not sure you really want to go down the path of 'look at these religious ideas, aren't they absurd'. Potentially a little hypocritical.

 

Meh, people point it out all the time here... 

I'm sure Sufis would be fine with being teased, and so am I.

Maybe I'll meditate and self reflect about it. 🤔

[+Liquid Gardens]

On 12/10/2024 at 8:51 PM, DieChecker said:

Meh, people point it out all the time here... 

Agreed, but not all of those people who point out absurd religious beliefs here have absurd religious beliefs of their own.  I agree though that it's just teasing, as long as you're cool with being teased about your own absurd beliefs then all's good. 

[Ajay0]

On 12/7/2024 at 5:05 PM, XenoFish said:

Just wanted to point out these two statements. 

Buddhism also speaks of right view (samma-ditthi) and understanding in contrast to wrong view and understanding. 

Right understanding leads to correct thinking and actions that leads to proper results. Wrong view and understanding will similarly beget wrong or undesired results.

https://www.accesstoinsight.org/ptf/dhamma/sacca/sacca4/samma-ditthi/index.html

[XenoFish]

2 minutes ago, Ajay0 said:

Buddhism also speaks of right view (samma-ditthi) and understanding in contrast to wrong view and understanding. 

Right understanding leads to correct thinking and actions that leads to proper results. Wrong view and understanding will similarly beget wrong or undesired results.

https://www.accesstoinsight.org/ptf/dhamma/sacca/sacca4/samma-ditthi/index.html

I don't care what Buddhism says. 

[Ajay0]

On 12/9/2024 at 11:19 AM, DieChecker said:

So Sufis are just the Muslim version of Evangelical Protestants?

Wait... So Sufis spend a lot of time and energy focusing on bettering themselves as an individual, through meditation, purification, and asceticism... So they can be less selfish, self centered, and self involved???

Being self involved to be less self involved???

There is a perspective in most eastern philosophies of a false fictional self created by external conditioning. This false self actually veils the true Self or authentic nature that is within all sentient beings.

https://sufism.org/library/articles/the-first-real-you

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The essential self is our fundamental I-ness before that I-ness becomes identified with various unreal selves. Or to express it another way: Our true “I” has become hypnotized by various “false I’s.”

My essential self, my real “I,” is pure consciousness, sourced in Infinite Life. When this “I” is functioning in the everyday world, it could be described as the awareness function of the Life Force. This Infinite Life Force is embodied within my finite individuality. Individuality is the embodiment of the Life Force endowed with conscious awareness. At the core of individuality is the essential self, which, however, is under the spell of various constructed identities: false selves, roles we play, masks we wear.

These false I’s usurp our essential self and speak in its name, giving distorted and false information which sets in motion various forces that confuse and distort everything—our relationship to others, to events, and to the Life Force.