Sarcophagus possibly belonging to Saint Nicholas discovered in Turkey

[Claira]

Recent excavations at the Church of St. Nicholas in Demre, Antalya, Turkey, have revealed a limestone sarcophagus that may be the burial site of Saint Nicholas, the Greek bishop whose life and deeds inspired the legend of Santa Claus. This discovery is part of the ongoing “Legacy for the Future Project,” led by Associate Professor Ebru Fatma Findik from Hatay Mustafa Kemal University and initiated by Turkey’s Ministry of Culture and Tourism.

The sarcophagus, found within the church’s two-story annex, is believed to be the original burial site of Saint Nicholas, who lived in the ancient city of Myra during the 4th century CE. Measuring approximately two meters in length and buried at a depth of 1.5 to 2 meters, the sarcophagus features a raised lid and a pitched roof consistent with burial styles of the region.

https://archaeologymag.com/2024/12/sarcophagus-of-santa-claus-found-in-turkey/

[Alchopwn]

I keep getting mocked for pointing out that Santa was a real.  This is the damage that unbridled skepticism has done.  Here we have the tomb of Santa Claus, and I bet most people still think he isn't real.

Edited December 9, 2024 by Alchopwn

[CrimsonKing]

9 minutes ago, Alchopwn said:

I keep getting mocked for pointing out that Santa was a real.  This is the damage that unbridled skepticism has done.  Here we have the tomb of Santa Claus, and I bet most people still think he isn't real.

It is kind of wild that some people can't separate the fact from fiction parts of stories based on real people...

Therefore because he didn't have a sleigh with flying reindeer, it's all fake!

My older sister ruined the "fake" part for me  before my 5th birthday,which falls shortly before Christmas,I was so damned mad 😆

[Dejarma]

21 minutes ago, Alchopwn said:

I keep getting mocked for pointing out that Santa was a real.  This is the damage that unbridled skepticism has done.  Here we have the tomb of Santa Claus, and I bet most people still think he isn't real.

i think many people know of Saint Nicholas... you must be surrounded by many uniformed people for you to be mocked for this mate!

[Ell]

1 hour ago, Alchopwn said:

I keep getting mocked for pointing out that Santa was a real.  This is the damage that unbridled skepticism has done.  Here we have the tomb of Santa Claus, and I bet most people still think he isn't real.

Santa never was a flesh and blood human.

He died three days ago, by the way. Does that every year.

[CrimsonKing]

44 minutes ago, Ell said:

Santa never was a flesh and blood human.

He died three days ago, by the way. Does that every year.

St Nicholas absolutely was a flesh and blood human being...

Just not the fictitious version he became due to legend and myth.

[Ell]

1 hour ago, CrimsonKing said:

St Nicholas absolutely was a flesh and blood human being...

Anthropomorphization of God.

Yet Saint Nicholas dies every year. Is that what a human being does? Jesus-like?

People are weird: always giving God a human body. Weird, weird, weird.

You too. Quod erat demonstrandum.

[jmccr8]

3 hours ago, Alchopwn said:

I keep getting mocked for pointing out that Santa was a real.  This is the damage that unbridled skepticism has done.  Here we have the tomb of Santa Claus, and I bet most people still think he isn't real.

HI Al

Actually Santa will be coming over to my place for our annual Christmas kickoff party this weekend and will smoke a few bats and kill a couple of bottles of rum. I am on both of Santa's lists as being naughty and nice so generally get a 24k carrot plated coal nugget. He did give me a complete tool replacement a couple of years ago of milwaulkee tools. If you want me to put in a good word for you ,well I will do my best.

[CrimsonKing]

1 minute ago, Ell said:

Anthropomorphization of God.

Yet Saint Nicholas dies every year. Is that what a human being does? Jesus-like?

People are weird: always giving God a human body. Weird, weird, weird.

You too. Quod erat demonstrandum.

No you circumcision minded freak...

I'm speaking of an actual Bishop who was once a living breathing human being.

[Ell]

2 hours ago, CrimsonKing said:

I'm speaking of an actual Bishop who was once a living breathing human being.

Doesn't have anything to do with Santa Claus.

[jethrofloyd]

When I was a young boy in the school, we learned that the Santa Claus lives in the north Finland. North of the polar circle. In the city of Rovaniemi.

[dragon1440]

I am no Christian (but very aware of the rituals stolen from Pagan holidays by the Christians) and I thought the whole coming back to life after 3 days was Easter.....

[sanchez710]

The modern version of 'Santa Claus' has evolved over time. An amalgamation of pagan traditions and Saint Nicholas and of course the Coca Cola corporation.

[HollyDolly]

Where do people get some of this stuff. St.Nicholas was a bishop. He is considered the patron Saint of children, Just as St.Cloud, also called St.Claude, is considered the patron saint of orphans. He was a frenchman who I believe was a member of the royal family . St.Nicholas according to the story, heard of a man who wanted to marry off his daughters, but he was unable to provide the money for their doweries. So, St.Nicholas gave each one a bag of money. That is where the old symbol for a pawn shop, of the three balls come from. Has nothing to do with the resurrection of Our Lord Jesus. The coming back to life after 3 days IS EASTER AND ONLY PERTAINS TO JESUS CHRIST. Now I understand non christians not being aware of this, and they can certainly can be forgiven for thinking that, but not Christians, no excuse for this .

[Alchopwn]

On 12/9/2024 at 2:37 PM, Ell said:

Santa never was a flesh and blood human.  He died three days ago, by the way. Does that every year.

Saint Nicholas was a real person, or near enough to one as a person from antiquity can be.

[Ell]

4 minutes ago, Alchopwn said:

Saint Nicholas was a real person, or near enough to one as a person from antiquity can be.

And he had a neger, also known as the Devil, for a helper? lol. 🙄

Edited December 10, 2024 by Ell

[Alchopwn]

On 12/9/2024 at 1:47 PM, Dejarma said:

i think many people know of Saint Nicholas... you must be surrounded by many uniformed people for you to be mocked for this mate!

Not really,  not uniformed, just misinformed.  Most of my friends are atheists, just like me.  I however like to question my philosophical underpinnings, but they don't.

[Dejarma]

9 hours ago, Alchopwn said:

Not really,  not uniformed, just misinformed.  Most of my friends are atheists, just like me.  I however like to question my philosophical underpinnings, but they don't.

oh ok then

[CrimsonKing]

17 hours ago, Alchopwn said:

Not really,  not uniformed, just misinformed.  Most of my friends are atheists, just like me.  I however like to question my philosophical underpinnings, but they don't.

Just because one is not religious, doesn't mean others who once spread a religious message never existed...

That shouldn't be too hard to grasp.

[Abramelin]

On 12/9/2024 at 3:22 AM, Alchopwn said:

I keep getting mocked for pointing out that Santa was a real.  This is the damage that unbridled skepticism has done.  Here we have the tomb of Santa Claus, and I bet most people still think he isn't real.

The True Story of Saint Nicholas.

Many centuries ago there was a bishop from Myra whose goal it was to spread 'the good word' to the countries around the Mediterranean.

So he set out on a boat and arrived in the many Mediterranean harbours. But his mission to convert people to Christianity changed as soon as he saw in what poverty the families of the fishermen, who stayed for months at sea, had to live. Instead he gave them food, and the kids he also gave small presents.

This he did as much as he could around the Mediterranean.

Then, one day, he arrived in a harbour in Northern Africa, probably Tunis. Aside of poor families, he also noticed black slaves being maltreated by their owners. And from his good heart he bought these black slaves from their owners, and set them free.

But, out of gratitude, these black slaves decided to help Nicholas on his mission to help the poor families living near the harbours.

These black slaves became the Zwarte Pieten in the many centuries later Dutch version of Nicholas' adventures.

He also became the patron saint of Italian and Greek fishermen.

Nowadays there's a lot of bull going around about these Zwarte Pieten being slaves owned by this Saint Nicholas. They weren't his slaves, they helped him out of their free will.

Another word for 'helper' in Dutch is 'knecht' , in English 'servant'. But the Dutch word 'knecht' also means something like 'slave', and that became one of the present causes for the modern 'politically correct' bs surrounding this children's party.

[Abramelin]

11 minutes ago, Abramelin said:

The True Story of Saint Nicholas.

Many centuries ago there was a bishop from Myra whose goal it was to spread 'the good word' to the countries around the Mediterranean.

So he set out on a boat and arrived in the many Mediterranean harbours. But his mission to convert people to Christianity changed as soon as he saw in what poverty the families of the fishermen, who stayed for months at sea, had to live. Instead he gave them food, and the kids he also gave small presents.

This he did as much as he could around the Mediterranean.

Then, one day, he arrived in a harbour in Northern Africa, probably Tunis. Aside of poor families, he also noticed black slaves being maltreated by their owners. And from his good heart he bought these black slaves from their owners, and set them free.

But, out of gratitude, these black slaves decided to help Nicholas on his mission to help the poor families living near the harbours.

These black slaves became the Zwarte Pieten in the many centuries later Dutch version of Nicholas' adventures.

He also became the patron saint of Italian and Greek fishermen.

Nowadays there's a lot of bull going around about these Zwarte Pieten being slaves owned by this Saint Nicholas. They weren't his slaves, they helped him out of their free will.

Another word for 'helper' in Dutch is 'knecht' , in English 'servant'. But the Dutch word 'knecht' also means something like 'slave', and that became one of the present causes for the modern 'politically correct' bs surrounding this children's party.

I heard all this from a history teacher when I was like 13 years old. The guy was from Indonesian descent and had been a major or something in the army. His name was "Blitz", really, and he treated us like we were his soldiers.

The guy was fascinated by ancient Greece, and I'll never forget his drawings on a huge blackboard, depicting the movements of Greek and Persian boats during their wars at sea.

I'll also never forget the guy's sharp voice. One of my friends was a Hungarian boy, G. Farkas, who loved to talk with me during history lessons. As soon as Blitz noticed that, he yelled, "FARKASSSSS !!!", the long -S- sounding like a razor blade.

Blitz also liked to smoke cigars in classroom, heh. So, after I nicked some magnesium during chemistry lessons, I put it in his ash tray when he was on his way to the classroom.  And... then we all waited for the fire works to start unfolding...

 

[Piney]

1 hour ago, Abramelin said:

The True Story of Saint Nicholas.

Many centuries ago there was a bishop from Myra whose goal it was to spread 'the good word' to the countries around the Mediterranean.

So he set out on a boat and arrived in the many Mediterranean harbours. But his mission to convert people to Christianity changed as soon as he saw in what poverty the families of the fishermen, who stayed for months at sea, had to live. Instead he gave them food, and the kids he also gave small presents.

This he did as much as he could around the Mediterranean.

Then, one day, he arrived in a harbour in Northern Africa, probably Tunis. Aside of poor families, he also noticed black slaves being maltreated by their owners. And from his good heart he bought these black slaves from their owners, and set them free.

But, out of gratitude, these black slaves decided to help Nicholas on his mission to help the poor families living near the harbours.

These black slaves became the Zwarte Pieten in the many centuries later Dutch version of Nicholas' adventures.

He also became the patron saint of Italian and Greek fishermen.

Nowadays there's a lot of bull going around about these Zwarte Pieten being slaves owned by this Saint Nicholas. They weren't his slaves, they helped him out of their free will.

Another word for 'helper' in Dutch is 'knecht' , in English 'servant'. But the Dutch word 'knecht' also means something like 'slave', and that became one of the present causes for the modern 'politically correct' bs surrounding this children's party.

My sister and I are both p***ed at what the Woketards did to Black Pete and how they twisted the story....😡

[Piney]

On 12/10/2024 at 3:23 AM, Ell said:

And he had a neger, also known as the Devil, for a helper? lol. 🙄

Black Pete was his human friend and helper. Not a devil. 

[Abramelin]

14 minutes ago, Piney said:

Black Pete was his human friend and helper. Not a devil. 

The 'devil' thing came centuries later. The Dutch word 'neger' means ne.gro. But it's close to an ancient Germanic word, 'nikr', a (water-) spirit.

And why is the Dutch Saint Nicholas depicted as riding a white stallion across the roofs of houses as soon as he deboarded his boat after it arrived coming 'from Spain'? Because the 'pagans' mixed him with Odin riding Sleipnir.

[Ell]

2 hours ago, Piney said:

Black Pete was his human friend and helper. Not a devil. 

Black Pete was not a human being, nor flesh and blood.