Kittens Are Jerks Posted December 17, 2024 #1 Share Posted December 17, 2024 North Korean troops have been killed during combat against Ukrainian forces in Russia’s Kursk border region, according to Ukraine’s military intelligence agency and the Pentagon. The deaths are the first reported since the US and Ukraine announced that North Korea had sent 10,000 to 12,000 troops to Russia to help it in the almost three-year war. The news came as the White House said it now believes North Korean troops are on the “front lines” of Russia’s war and are “actively engaged in combat operations” against Ukraine. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/dec/16/first-reported-deaths-of-north-korean-soldiers-fighting-against-ukraine 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmccr8 Posted December 17, 2024 #2 Share Posted December 17, 2024 1 minute ago, Kittens Are Jerks said: North Korean troops have been killed during combat against Ukrainian forces in Russia’s Kursk border region, according to Ukraine’s military intelligence agency and the Pentagon. The deaths are the first reported since the US and Ukraine announced that North Korea had sent 10,000 to 12,000 troops to Russia to help it in the almost three-year war. The news came as the White House said it now believes North Korean troops are on the “front lines” of Russia’s war and are “actively engaged in combat operations” against Ukraine. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/dec/16/first-reported-deaths-of-north-korean-soldiers-fighting-against-ukraine Hi KIttens I saw that yesterday but couldn't post the link as it showed a lot of dead bodies laid out in a row. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmccr8 Posted December 17, 2024 #3 Share Posted December 17, 2024 From Ukrainian channels: The first full video of the defeat of the attack of the Korean People's Army in the zone of the 17th heavy mechanized brigade of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in the Kursk region of the Russian Federation on December 14. We see how groups of Koreans advance in very sparse combat formations across an open field at least 2 km long. Artillery is actively working against the Koreans, cluster shells are used, specially developed by the Americans against such meaty assaults. Also, numerous strikes are carried out by attack drones. There are dozens of corpses of Koreans in the video. We see that it is in this area that the very famous evacuation point filmed by Madyar's pilots, where 23 corpses of Koreans were collected, apparently killed before the attack began at the deployment line, and prepared for evacuation. The enemy cannot evacuate numerous bodies scattered in the field and landing closer to our positions. At the same time, on December 14, Korean troops attacked in two more directions. All attacks were repelled by Ukrainian soldiers with huge losses for the enemy. Source: https://t.me/kryvyirih17otbr/4015 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kittens Are Jerks Posted December 18, 2024 Author #4 Share Posted December 18, 2024 On 12/16/2024 at 11:00 PM, jmccr8 said: The first full video of the defeat of the attack of the Korean People's Army in the zone of the 17th heavy mechanized brigade of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in the Kursk region of the Russian Federation on December 14. The North Korean soldiers must be terrified. They've not been in combat before and lack experience. They are in no way prepared for front-line combat. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claira Posted December 18, 2024 #5 Share Posted December 18, 2024 1 hour ago, Kittens Are Jerks said: The North Korean soldiers must be terrified. They've not been in combat before and lack experience. They are in no way prepared for front-line combat. They must also be lacking in training as well. I doubt it's as rigorous, or as practical, as what the IDF, for example, goes through. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kittens Are Jerks Posted December 18, 2024 Author #6 Share Posted December 18, 2024 3 hours ago, Claira said: They must also be lacking in training as well. I doubt it's as rigorous, or as practical, as what the IDF, for example, goes through. Kim whatshisface might become a little concerned, not because he cares for human life, but he might care about dwindling numbers. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmccr8 Posted December 18, 2024 #7 Share Posted December 18, 2024 32 minutes ago, Kittens Are Jerks said: Kim whatshisface might become a little concerned, not because he cares for human life, but he might care about dwindling numbers. HI Kittens Not sure Kim cares that much or anymore than Putin does about his own people really 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kittens Are Jerks Posted December 18, 2024 Author #8 Share Posted December 18, 2024 9 minutes ago, jmccr8 said: HI Kittens Not sure Kim cares that much or anymore than Putin does about his own people really You're right, he doesn't. I thought he might get concerned about dwindling numbers, but now that I think about it, he didn't send that many soldiers over, Plus, he can always force as many North Koreans as he wants to serve in his military. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmccr8 Posted December 18, 2024 #9 Share Posted December 18, 2024 1 hour ago, Kittens Are Jerks said: You're right, he doesn't. I thought he might get concerned about dwindling numbers, but now that I think about it, he didn't send that many soldiers over, Plus, he can always force as many North Koreans as he wants to serve in his military. HI Kittens I think the first group sent was 1500 soldiers with a commitment to send 20,00 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmccr8 Posted December 18, 2024 #10 Share Posted December 18, 2024 1 hour ago, jmccr8 said: HI Kittens I think the first group sent was 1500 soldiers with a commitment to send 20,00 It was too late to edit, the commitment is 10,000 not 20. Fat finger, little buttons Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmccr8 Posted December 18, 2024 #11 Share Posted December 18, 2024 1 hour ago, jmccr8 said: HI Kittens I think the first group sent was 1500 soldiers with a commitment to send 20,00 It was too late to edit, the commitment is 10,000 not 20. Fat finger, little buttons 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claira Posted December 18, 2024 #12 Share Posted December 18, 2024 Just now, jmccr8 said: It was too late to edit, the commitment is 10,000 not 20. Fat finger, little buttons And none of those 10,000 will be told upfront how easily their fellow soldiers have been going down. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmccr8 Posted December 18, 2024 #13 Share Posted December 18, 2024 1 hour ago, Claira said: And none of those 10,000 will be told upfront how easily their fellow soldiers have been going down. HI Claira True that in the one video I saw they chemical burnt the faces of the dead Korean soldiers so that they couldn't be identified from photos to hide that they were Korean 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kittens Are Jerks Posted December 18, 2024 Author #14 Share Posted December 18, 2024 2 hours ago, jmccr8 said: HI Claira True that in the one video I saw they chemical burnt the faces of the dead Korean soldiers so that they couldn't be identified from photos to hide that they were Korean Why am I not surprised. What a despicable thing to do. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmccr8 Posted December 19, 2024 #15 Share Posted December 19, 2024 🇰🇷🇰🇵 Around 100 killed and 1,000 wounded: South Korean intelligence reports heavy losses among North Korean soldiers fighting for Russia in the Kursk region, per Reuters. The high casualties are due to their lack of experience in "drone warfare" and unfamiliarity with the open terrain where battles are taking place. https://www.reuters.com/world/north-korea-says-its-alliance-with-russia-very-effective-no-mention-troop-losses-2024-12-18/ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmccr8 Posted December 19, 2024 #16 Share Posted December 19, 2024 DPRK taking more and more losses in the Kursk region. During an 8-hour special operation that deserves its own movie, Ukrainian SSO fighters took down 21 DPRK soldiers in a firefight and up to 50 more with mortar/artillery fire and FPV drones. A detailed story might follow later 😉 Operation by https://www.instagram.com/ua_reg/. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevewinn Posted December 20, 2024 #17 Share Posted December 20, 2024 The North Koreans are taking ground and villages. The dear leader back home will be told, That his troops are performing admirably against Western style forces. encouraged. - Don't be surprised if a further 10,000 or 20,000 sent to the borders of Ukraine. Western leaders stalled for far to long, and its cost Ukraine dearly. - any peace deal that cedes territory to Russia means a return to conflict years down the line. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kittens Are Jerks Posted December 20, 2024 Author #18 Share Posted December 20, 2024 (edited) Don't underestimate North Korean troops in Russia, ex-soldiers tell BBC https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c6238exzjpxo Edited December 20, 2024 by Kittens Are Jerks Added YouTube video. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kittens Are Jerks Posted December 27, 2024 Author #19 Share Posted December 27, 2024 North Korean soldier captured in Ukraine dies, reports say An injured North Korean soldier captured by Ukrainian forces has died, Yonhap News Agency has reported, citing a statement from South Korea's spy agency. The soldier is believed to be the first North Korean prisoner of war captured since Pyongyang deployed forces to support Russia's war in Ukraine. South Korea's National Intelligence Service said it had confirmed through an "allied intelligence agency" that the soldier had died from "serious injuries", Yonhap reported. https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cq62qe131d7o Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmccr8 Posted December 27, 2024 #20 Share Posted December 27, 2024 Summary North Korea lacks drone warfare experience - MP Signs of North Korea readying additional deployment North Korea: alliance with Russia 'very effective' but doesn't acknowledge fighting in Ukraine SEOUL, Dec 19 (Reuters) - At least 100 North Korean troops deployed to Russia have been killed with another 1,000 injured in combat against Ukrainian forces in intense fighting in the Kursk region, a South Korean lawmaker said on Thursday citing the country's spy agency. The heavy losses are attributed to the lack of experience by North Korean troops in drone warfare and unfamiliarity with the open terrain where they are taking part in the battle, a member of parliament Lee Seong-kweun told reporters. Advertisement · Scroll to continue Report this ad Lee was speaking after a closed-door briefing by the National Intelligence Service (NIS) to parliament. The discrepancy in the estimate of the troops killed from that made by a U.S. military official who cited several hundred casualties is because of the relatively conservative analysis by the NIS, Lee said. "There was a report that there have been at least 100 deaths and the injured are approaching 1,000," he said. Advertisement · Scroll to continue There are indications that the North is preparing for additional deployment, Lee said, including intelligence of the country's leader Kim Jong Un overseeing training. The report echoed comments by U.S. and Ukrainian officials that North Korean losses are heavy and that Russia was using them in large numbers in assaults in Kursk, a Russian region where Ukraine launched a cross-border incursion in August. The video player is currently playing an ad. You can skip the ad in 5 sec with a mouse or keyboard 01:13German president dissolves parliament for 2025 snap election More than 10,000 North Korean troops have been deployed to help Russia in the war, according to U.S. and South Korean officials. Pyongyang has also shipped more than 10,000 containers of artillery rounds, anti-tank rockets as well as mechanised howitzers and rocket launchers. Neither the North nor Russia have officially acknowledged the troop deployment or the weapons supply. Russian President Vladimir Putin visited Pyongyang in June and signed a "comprehensive strategic partnership" treaty with North Korean leader Kim Jong Un that included a mutual defence pact. Earlier on Thursday, North Korea said its military alliance with Russia is proving "very effective" in deterring the United States and its "vassal forces," denouncing a recent statement by Washington and allies against ties between Pyongyang and Moscow. North Korea made no mention of its involvement in the war in Ukraine or casualties. Instead it denounced a statement by the United States and nine countries and the European Union issued on Monday as "distorting and slandering the essence of the normal cooperative relations" between the North and Russia. In a statement by an unnamed foreign ministry spokesman, the North blamed Washington and its allies for prolonging the Ukrainian war and destabilising the security situation in Europe and Asia-Pacific. "It is because of the misguided acts of the U.S. and the West persisting in their structure-destructive, hegemony-oriented and adventuristic military policy," it said. The Reuters Daily Briefing newsletter provides all the news you need to start your day. Sign up here. Reporting by Jack Kim, Editing by Deepa Babington and Michael Perry https://www.reuters.com/world/north-korea-says-its-alliance-with-russia-very-effective-no-mention-troop-losses-2024-12-18/ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buzz_Light_Year Posted December 27, 2024 #21 Share Posted December 27, 2024 Translated note found on a dead Nork soldier. I can't show the original note as it involves the dead soldier. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fred_mc Posted December 30, 2024 #22 Share Posted December 30, 2024 I don't think Kim Jong Un is happy about sending soldiers but he has no choice. He needs guarantee from Russia that they will help if North Korea is attacked, and in order to get that, North Korea must also help if Russia is attacked. As long as the war was in Ukraine only, it was hard to claim that it was an attack of Russia, even though the Ukrainian regions held entirely or partly by Russia are Russian according to Russian law. However, when it comes to Kursk there is no doubt about that it is an attack of Russia, so North Korea simply had to fulfil their part of the deal, and send soldiers. I think that Kim Jong Un does care about North Korean soldiers dying, in the sense that it makes him afraid that it might increase the risk of revolt against him in North Korea due to people being dissatisfied. Because of that, and also because he needs to have enough capability to defend North Korea if it is attacked, he doesn't want to send too many soldiers. When it comes to high rank officers, like generals, dying, it might concern him too, since he might value the competence of those persons to be able to defend North Korea in case of an attack. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+DieChecker Posted January 26 #23 Share Posted January 26 Saw Ukraine captured some North Koreans. They not no business being there. Not just because it's not their war, but apparently they fight like untrained uneducated children. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmccr8 Posted January 26 #24 Share Posted January 26 14 hours ago, DieChecker said: Saw Ukraine captured some North Koreans. They not no business being there. Not just because it's not their war, but apparently they fight like untrained uneducated children. Hi Die They are just more meat for the grinder so neither Kim or Putin cares. That said this is a very different terrian and climate for them and this type of drone warfare is new 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ajay0 Posted January 27 #25 Share Posted January 27 Imho, it is not correct to underestimate North Korean military capabilities . The Koreans had defeated the US led UN forces in 1950 then forcing them to withdraw and even captured Seoul again in 1950 before losing it to US-UN counter-offensive. American losses were heavy to the point that they even threatened to use nuclear weapons. The Russians had tested their first nuclear weapon in 1949, and this could perhaps be a reason why the Americans abstained from using nukes later on 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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