pellinore Posted December 29, 2024 #1 Share Posted December 29, 2024 CCTV shows the plane attempted to land with the gear up and no flaps, slats or airbrakes deployed. If there were catastrophic malfunctions, why didn't the crew report them? Only two survivors have been found after a passenger plane, reportedly with malfunctioning landing gear, hit a fence and caught fire in southern South Korea. It skidded off a runway at Muan International Airport and slammed into a concrete fence in one of South Korea's worst aviation disasters. The National Fire Agency said rescuers raced to pull people from the Jeju Air passenger plane carrying 181 people at the airport in the town of Muan, about 290 kilometres south of Seoul. At least 124 people died in the fire, the agency said. Plane carrying 181 bursts into flames after skidding off runway at South Korea airport - ABC News Jeju 737-800 crash at Muan airport in South Korea - PPRuNe Forums 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timothy Posted December 29, 2024 #2 Share Posted December 29, 2024 @pellinore aviate, navigate, communicate. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Still Waters Posted December 29, 2024 #3 Share Posted December 29, 2024 Officials say air traffic controllers warned aircraft about bird strike risks minutes before crash All passengers and four crew killed in Jeju Air flight crash, officials confirm “Of the 179 dead, 65 have been identified,” South Korea’s fire agency said. The two surviving crew members were rescued from the tail of the aircraft and had suffered “mid to severe” injuries, authorities said. https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2024/dec/29/south-korea-plane-crash-casualties-reported-after-jeju-air-flight-veers-off-runway-at-muan-airport-live-updates? 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pellinore Posted December 29, 2024 Author #4 Share Posted December 29, 2024 (edited) 1 hour ago, Still Waters said: Officials say air traffic controllers warned aircraft about bird strike risks minutes before crash All passengers and four crew killed in Jeju Air flight crash, officials confirm “Of the 179 dead, 65 have been identified,” South Korea’s fire agency said. The two surviving crew members were rescued from the tail of the aircraft and had suffered “mid to severe” injuries, authorities said. https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2024/dec/29/south-korea-plane-crash-casualties-reported-after-jeju-air-flight-veers-off-runway-at-muan-airport-live-updates? A bird strike wouldn't have affected all the systems. Hence the mystery. From PPRuNe: I'm not suggesting they were clowns, I'm suggesting its curious. Even with one engine running, you can get flaps out. You can fly around in a hold for long enough to do some trouble shooting. Even with no engines running, you can get some flaps out. You can definitely get the gear down. The fact that it seems like none of that happened raises a bunch of questions about what happened to them (something pretty catastrophic), or their decision making. Of course, I don't have any more info than anyone else (except that I fly that aircraft type, and given the current suggestions/videos around bird strikes etc. it shouldn't have resulted in that outcome), they might have completely lost all power and tried the impossible turn because that was the only option. If they went around and then came back for a single engine approach on 19, that does raise a few more questions. Edited December 29, 2024 by pellinore 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kittens Are Jerks Posted December 30, 2024 #5 Share Posted December 30, 2024 Video captures moments before South Korea plane crash: https://www.bbc.com/news/videos/cz0r2lj5p8eo 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Great Old Man Posted January 4 #6 Share Posted January 4 On 12/29/2024 at 4:49 PM, pellinore said: CCTV shows the plane attempted to land with the gear up and no flaps, slats or airbrakes deployed. If there were catastrophic malfunctions, why didn't the crew report them? Only two survivors have been found after a passenger plane, reportedly with malfunctioning landing gear, hit a fence and caught fire in southern South Korea. It skidded off a runway at Muan International Airport and slammed into a concrete fence in one of South Korea's worst aviation disasters. The National Fire Agency said rescuers raced to pull people from the Jeju Air passenger plane carrying 181 people at the airport in the town of Muan, about 290 kilometres south of Seoul. At least 124 people died in the fire, the agency said. Plane carrying 181 bursts into flames after skidding off runway at South Korea airport - ABC News Jeju 737-800 crash at Muan airport in South Korea - PPRuNe Forums Please check this conspiracy theory. (you can translate it by google) https://blog.naver.com/esedae/223709066145 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Still Waters Posted January 12 #7 Share Posted January 12 Flight data and cockpit voice recorders from the South Korean passenger plane that crashed last month stopped recording four minutes before the disaster, the country's transport ministry has said. The crash of the Jeju Air flight killed 179 people, making it the deadliest air accident on Korean soil. Two cabin crew members were the only survivors. Investigators had hoped that data on the recorders would provide insights about the crucial moments before the tragedy. The ministry said it would analyse what caused the "black boxes" to stop recording. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cjr8dwd1rdno 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+joc Posted January 13 #8 Share Posted January 13 How do you NOT know that your landing gear isn't fully locked into place as soon as you deploy it? Either there was a problem with the landing gear AND there was a problem with the planes computerized communications or... ....the plane was sabotaged! If it was sabotaged, why? That's just kind of unbelievable isn't it...the landing gear didn't go down...the blackbox was missing recordings of the last 4 minutes? And the pilot didn't notify the air traffic controllers. Unless a major malfunction happened and everything just shut down...but everything didn't shut down did it! No. You would think that if there was that much of a problem with the computer the plane would have just dropped out of the sky. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Great Old Man Posted February 1 #9 Share Posted February 1 On 1/13/2025 at 12:05 PM, joc said: How do you NOT know that your landing gear isn't fully locked into place as soon as you deploy it? Either there was a problem with the landing gear AND there was a problem with the planes computerized communications or... ....the plane was sabotaged! If it was sabotaged, why? That's just kind of unbelievable isn't it...the landing gear didn't go down...the blackbox was missing recordings of the last 4 minutes? And the pilot didn't notify the air traffic controllers. Unless a major malfunction happened and everything just shut down...but everything didn't shut down did it! No. You would think that if there was that much of a problem with the computer the plane would have just dropped out of the sky. You're right. It is possibly manipulated by out side.... Serial Airplane accident issue has to be investigated thoroughly to prevent further disaster. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Still Waters Posted February 2 #10 Share Posted February 2 Bird feathers found in engines of crashed Jeju Air jet The feathers and blood stains on both engines of the Jeju Air plane were from the Baikal teal, a type of migratory duck that flies in large flocks, according to a preliminary investigation report published on Monday. The inquiry into the crash - the deadliest on South Korean soil - will now focus on the role of the bird strike and a concrete structure at the end of the runway, which the plane crashed into. The engines of the Boeing 737-800 will be torn down and the concrete structure will be examined further, the report said. Experts who had flown the same type of aircraft involved in the crash have also questioned the presence of the concrete barriers at the end of the runway - with some suggesting that the casualty toll would have been lower if they had not been there. The concrete structure holds a navigation system that assists aircraft landings, known as a localiser. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c5y6j32p7lxo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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