MrsGently Posted December 29, 2024 #1 Share Posted December 29, 2024 Did you know we are somewhat of a black spot? If a hypothetical someone from space calls you and asks you for your adress what do you say? Well middle left lower spiral Milky Way Those 8 planets around Sol? With the bigger gassy ones at the outer orbits? There. We don't have a name. My suggestion: Ma'at Purely for romantic reasons: you're the Sol of my Ma'at Say it out loud. .... I mean? Yeah, right? 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abramelin Posted December 30, 2024 #2 Share Posted December 30, 2024 You're ok? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrsGently Posted December 30, 2024 Author #3 Share Posted December 30, 2024 35 minutes ago, Abramelin said: You're ok? Why? If you don't like my name for our solar system, fine. But it wasn't THAT bad? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Desertrat56 Posted December 30, 2024 #4 Share Posted December 30, 2024 19 hours ago, MrsGently said: Did you know we are somewhat of a black spot? If a hypothetical someone from space calls you and asks you for your adress what do you say? Well middle left lower spiral Milky Way Those 8 planets around Sol? With the bigger gassy ones at the outer orbits? There. We don't have a name. My suggestion: Ma'at Purely for romantic reasons: you're the Sol of my Ma'at Say it out loud. .... I mean? Yeah, right? If you want to be accurate enough for someone to find us, the directions are the furthest spiral arm of this galaxy, not some random "middle left lower spiral" and we call it the Milkey Way galaxy but that may not be what others call it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abramelin Posted December 30, 2024 #5 Share Posted December 30, 2024 3 hours ago, MrsGently said: Why? If you don't like my name for our solar system, fine. But it wasn't THAT bad? Your name?? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+joc Posted January 1 #6 Share Posted January 1 (edited) On 12/30/2024 at 8:46 AM, Desertrat56 said: If you want to be accurate enough for someone to find us, the directions are the furthest spiral arm of this galaxy, not some random "middle left lower spiral" and we call it the Milkey Way galaxy but that may not be what others call it. If....there were others to call it. But if we were just a black dot, no one would be calling us. We are actually a tiny microscopic Blue Dot. But if we can see their mirror, then they can see us. If they are even out there...which is probably a moot point. But hey, Happy New Year just the same Edited January 1 by joc 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Desertrat56 Posted January 1 #7 Share Posted January 1 9 hours ago, joc said: If....there were others to call it. But if we were just a black dot, no one would be calling us. We are actually a tiny microscopic Blue Dot. But if we can see their mirror, then they can see us. If they are even out there...which is probably a moot point. But hey, Happy New Year just the same Do you think in the whole universe we are alone? Even just in this galaxy we are alone? How weird would that be. We are not that special. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+joc Posted January 1 #8 Share Posted January 1 1 hour ago, Desertrat56 said: Do you think in the whole universe we are alone? Even just in this galaxy we are alone? How weird would that be. We are not that special. Well, actually we may be that special. I would imagine the there are likely billions of planets which have life. But intelligent life? I think it was @Pineywho first pointed out to me how we actually know an asteroid killed off the dinosaurs 65 million years ago. And I'm pretty sure it was also Piney who told me about the theory that we could be alone because of that So, consider that, if an asteroid of that size hadn't hit the Earth in just the right place 65 million years ago we probably wouldn't even exist...because mammals only evolved the way they did because of that asteroid. What are the odds of that happening on any other planet? Probably not great. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piney Posted January 1 #9 Share Posted January 1 24 minutes ago, joc said: Well, actually we may be that special. I would imagine the there are likely billions of planets which have life. But intelligent life? I think it was @Pineywho first pointed out to me how we actually know an asteroid killed off the dinosaurs 65 million years ago. And I'm pretty sure it was also Piney who told me about the theory that we could be alone because of that So, consider that, if an asteroid of that size hadn't hit the Earth in just the right place 65 million years ago we probably wouldn't even exist...because mammals only evolved the way they did because of that asteroid. What are the odds of that happening on any other planet? Probably not great. Rare Earth Hypothesis. There are so many "one offs" about our solar system and evolutionary development that it's not happening again. Andy the Hwicce can explain it pretty good too. @Essan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piney Posted January 1 #10 Share Posted January 1 27 minutes ago, joc said: So, consider that, if an asteroid of that size hadn't hit the Earth in just the right place 65 million years ago we probably wouldn't even exist...because mammals only evolved the way they did because of that asteroid. What are the odds of that happening on any other planet? It gave mammals a chance to fill niches but it's more complicated. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Desertrat56 Posted January 1 #11 Share Posted January 1 (edited) 1 hour ago, joc said: Well, actually we may be that special. I would imagine the there are likely billions of planets which have life. But intelligent life? I think it was @Pineywho first pointed out to me how we actually know an asteroid killed off the dinosaurs 65 million years ago. And I'm pretty sure it was also Piney who told me about the theory that we could be alone because of that So, consider that, if an asteroid of that size hadn't hit the Earth in just the right place 65 million years ago we probably wouldn't even exist...because mammals only evolved the way they did because of that asteroid. What are the odds of that happening on any other planet? Probably not great. As huge as the universe is, the odds are greater than you think. It makes no sense for us to evolve on the furthest spiral arm of the galaxy the way we have for that not to be the norm rather than the exception. There is now evidence that several catastrophic events have wiped out several human civilizations. But the narrative has to be that we have only been civilized for 5000 years, even though the dating of many ancient sites prove otherwise (even the pyramids in egypt and south america actually date older). Gobekli Tepi is not an outlier. Edited January 1 by Desertrat56 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Essan Posted January 2 #12 Share Posted January 2 22 hours ago, joc said: Well, actually we may be that special. I would imagine the there are likely billions of planets which have life. But intelligent life? I think it was @Pineywho first pointed out to me how we actually know an asteroid killed off the dinosaurs 65 million years ago. And I'm pretty sure it was also Piney who told me about the theory that we could be alone because of that So, consider that, if an asteroid of that size hadn't hit the Earth in just the right place 65 million years ago we probably wouldn't even exist...because mammals only evolved the way they did because of that asteroid. What are the odds of that happening on any other planet? Probably not great. Yes, life is (probably) plentiful in the universe. But for some 3,500,000,000 years there was life on Earth, but none of it was ever capable of sending radio transmissions or even using a digital watch. Even complex life relies on a lot of coincidences - a very stable orbit, a very stable star in an area of the galaxy not prone to cosmic ray bursts, and for life on land (as opposed to just in the oceans), active tectonics and a large moon to create regular, large, tides to encourage the evolution of life on land. And as we know, even then, for every 1,000,000,000 or so highly advanced lifeforms that evolve over billions of years, only 1 might ever discover how to control fire. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abramelin Posted January 11 #13 Share Posted January 11 On 1/2/2025 at 3:16 PM, Essan said: Yes, life is (probably) plentiful in the universe. But for some 3,500,000,000 years there was life on Earth, but none of it was ever capable of sending radio transmissions or even using a digital watch. Even complex life relies on a lot of coincidences - a very stable orbit, a very stable star in an area of the galaxy not prone to cosmic ray bursts, and for life on land (as opposed to just in the oceans), active tectonics and a large moon to create regular, large, tides to encourage the evolution of life on land. And as we know, even then, for every 1,000,000,000 or so highly advanced lifeforms that evolve over billions of years, only 1 might ever discover how to control fire. You can turn this upside down: based on what you posted our planet and where it is located are not that good for developing intelligent life. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abramelin Posted January 13 #14 Share Posted January 13 On 1/11/2025 at 3:13 PM, Abramelin said: You can turn this upside down: based on what you posted our planet and where it is located are not that good for developing intelligent life. Thinking a bit more about this: ìf our planet is indeed not that good for developing intelligent life forms, then what should those conditions be? We have no f. clue. The Drake Equation is solely based on conditions here on earth. And that's true for every other theory. Maybe no 'alien' ever considered visiting our planet, because they assumed absolutely nothing intelligent could possibly evolve on a planet like ours. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Desertrat56 Posted January 14 #15 Share Posted January 14 17 hours ago, Abramelin said: Thinking a bit more about this: ìf our planet is indeed not that good for developing intelligent life forms, then what should those conditions be? We have no f. clue. The Drake Equation is solely based on conditions here on earth. And that's true for every other theory. Maybe no 'alien' ever considered visiting our planet, because they assumed absolutely nothing intelligent could possibly evolve on a planet like ours. Or maybe only outlaws have or are visiting this planet because we are the outback of the galaxy. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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